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    After Minuteman Melee, Protesters Have New Beef

    Another biased article from the invasion friendly LA times

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    After Minuteman Melee, Protesters Have New Beef
    # The man who drove his van into demonstrators outside an event in Garden Grove won't be charged. One activist says that's unfair.

    By Jennifer Delson and Mai Tran, Times Staff Writers

    An activist opposing illegal immigration who drove his van into a crowd of protesters in Garden Grove will not be charged, police said Thursday, prompting anger from detractors.

    A van driven by Hal Netkin hit several people protesting an appearance Wednesday night by James Gilchrist, whose Minuteman citizen patrol last month monitored the Mexican border in Arizona for illegal crossers.

    Netkin, 69, is a former secession candidate for City Council in the San Fernando Valley whose websites oppose illegal immigration and the proliferation of Mexican government-issued identification cards.

    Netkin was released after police watched a videotape that showed protesters surrounding the vehicle, banging on it and refusing to move, said Garden Grove Police Lt. Mike Handfield. About 300 protesters at the scene were "trying to intimidate him and refused to let him pass," Handfield said. By night's end, five demonstrators had been arrested.

    Gilchrist, an Aliso Viejo resident, and his opponents agreed the melee could portend more confrontations between activists as the issue heats up, with the number of citizen groups and radio talk-show hosts opposing illegal immigration growing nationwide. Gilchrist, a hero among like-minded activists, plans several speaking engagements in the coming months, including an appearance at a Las Vegas conference this weekend.

    That conference is expected to draw prominent opponents of illegal immigration, such as Rep. Thomas G. Tancredo (R-Colo.) and Barbara Coe, one of the authors of Proposition 187, a 1994 California ballot measure that denied many public benefits to illegal immigrants but was overturned by a federal court.

    Gilchrist is recruiting for other citizen patrols, including one at the California-Mexico border, and for a campaign that he says will target tax evaders.

    James Lafferty, director of the National Lawyers Guild in Los Angeles, said he was among those struck by Netkin's van. He said staging protests at Gilchrist's events was necessary, even if it increased his profile.

    "I'm glad there were people there saying something [Wednesday night]. We need to have this debate," said Lafferty, who said he was not injured. "We can't just stand and watch this."

    Protesters said they arrived at the Garden Grove Women's Club about 6:30 p.m. after receiving an e-mail saying Gilchrist was to speak to the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, which presented him with a trophy for his border campaign.

    Police said the sign-waving protest began calmly but grew agitated when Netkin tried to enter the parking lot. In addition to surrounding his vehicle, protesters broke the window of another vehicle, Handfield said.

    The protesters blocked the entrance and tossed soda cans and cans packed with marbles at police and attendees, Handfield said. They kicked, banged and threw rocks at cars; some wore latex gloves and hoods so they wouldn't be identified by police, Handfield said. Some attendees decided not to enter the building because they feared violence.

    Some of the protesters paid $5 for admission to the event and alerted protesters outside when attendees were leaving the building.

    Arrested were Fernando Chirino, 23, of Irvine; Kurt Isobe, 18, of Laguna Beach; Juan Obed Silva, 26, of Buena Park; Shane Sparks, 21, of Altadena; and Sarmiento Valid, 24, of Los Angeles. They face various charges, including assault with a deadly weapon and misdemeanor disorderly conduct, Handfield said.

    Lafferty said the arrests were unfair.

    "What's sticking in the craw of the protesters is that they would quickly let a man go without even charging him, whereas the students and protesters for much less serious matters were charged and there is no proof, as far as I can tell, that they did anything anyway," Lafferty said.

    Hamid Kahn, executive director of the South Asian Network, a nonprofit advocacy organization, brought half a dozen people to the protest.

    He said his group would continue to monitor Gilchrist's public appearances.

    Gilchrist and his followers "are mainstreaming hate," Kahn said. "They are creating and disseminating a message of hate. They put these messages into the public and harass and intimidate people.

    "This movement is gaining national momentum, and we need to build solidarity," Kahn added.
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    James Lafferty, director of the National Lawyers Guild in Los Angeles, said he was among those struck by Netkin's van. He said staging protests at Gilchrist's events was necessary, even if it increased his profile
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    An activist opposing illegal immigration who drove his van into a crowd of protesters in Garden Grove will not be charged, police said Thursday, prompting anger from detractors.
    A van driven by Hal Netkin hit several people protesting an appearance Wednesday night by James Gilchrist, whose Minuteman citizen patrol last month monitored the Mexican border in Arizona for illegal crossers.

    What are these two reporters trying to accomplish by lieing? Hmmm, I wonder.

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    Gilchrist and his followers "are mainstreaming hate," Kahn said. "They are creating and disseminating a message of hate. They put these messages into the public and harass and intimidate people.

    "are mainstreaming hate," Kahn said. Now that's a new phrase that they will be sure to remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
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    An activist opposing illegal immigration who drove his van into a crowd of protesters in Garden Grove will not be charged, police said Thursday, prompting anger from detractors.
    A van driven by Hal Netkin hit several people protesting an appearance Wednesday night by James Gilchrist, whose Minuteman citizen patrol last month monitored the Mexican border in Arizona for illegal crossers.

    What are these two reporters trying to accomplish by lieing? Hmmm, I wonder.

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    Gilchrist and his followers "are mainstreaming hate," Kahn said. "They are creating and disseminating a message of hate. They put these messages into the public and harass and intimidate people.

    "are mainstreaming hate," Kahn said. Now that's a new phrase that they will be sure to remember.
    Well when the Protestor kills someone will he be charged? I am still not understanding what these people are protesting. Are they protesting that the law is about to be enforced? Or are they protesting the fact that these Economic terrorist will no longer have a free ride here? I am not sure which one it is but it seems like to me the ones who are protesting these Economic Terrorist are loyal hispanics who have forgotton that America is under attack and they seem to think all Mexians American or not deserve to come to this country. Loyalty is a problem here because if an American who happens to be of Mexican decent is loyal to these Economic Terrorist then we have to consider punishing both at this point. Question is how do we make our citezen pay for this? One they are not smart enough to understand the logic,two they are willing to pay for it out of their own pocket,three the solution is caught supporting these terrorist they must be imprisioned and lose their property and freedom. Let see how that works. Thanks
    "Bring it on"

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