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    Appalled at U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo

    This alone speaks volumns....Kathleen Moccio is a trustee of the American Immigration Law Foundation. Katherine Fennelly is a professor at the University of Minnesota's Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs.

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    Kathleen Moccio and Katherine Fennelly:

    Facts, not fear, should guide U.S. immigration
    Kathleen Moccio and Katherine Fennelly


    April 27, 2005 FENNELLY0427


    We were appalled to learn that U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado was invited to make a keynote speech at a Republican fundraising breakfast in Minnesota's Third Congressional District this weekend.

    His brand of fear-mongering about illegal immigration and his active encouragement of vigilantes should have no place in Minnesota politics. Immigration reform is sorely needed in the United States, but responsible proposals must be based upon facts and not incendiary rhetoric.

    The fact is that the American economy is dependent upon immigrant labor. As baby boomers retire, there will be a reduction in the size of the nation's workforce. Our rapidly "graying" nation relies upon immigrant workers to fill the gap.

    Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank, and others have called upon Congress to recognize the importance of immigration as a means of reducing the likelihood of inflation in a tight labor market.

    Tancredo rails against "illegal immigrants," but he doesn't address why so many undocumented workers come to the United States. The answer is that many industries recruit low-wage workers, but the government doesn't issue them visas. Less than 1 percent of the "employment-based visas" granted by the U.S. government are for low-skilled workers.

    The result is that undocumented immigrant workers are vilified, while their industrial employers are rarely fined. Rather than closing our borders, we need to increase the numbers of workers over the next seven years to fill many of the 21 million new jobs projected by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Against the advice of the Department of Homeland Security, Tancredo is militant in his drive to seal the U.S. border. He has enthusiastically endorsed the "Minuteman Project," a group of armed volunteers who patrol the Arizona Border.

    President Bush has called the militia "vigilantes," but Tancredo calls them "heroes" and has invited their leaders to address members of Congress in his Immigration Reform Caucus.

    Among these so-called heroes are white supremacists from the neo-Nazi National Alliance. Members of the Alliance were at the project's kickoff, and some carried assault weapons in their trucks and boasted that they were scouting "sniper positions."

    The vigilantism and militarization of the border called for by Tancredo make it more difficult to secure our borders, not less.

    As Bush has acknowledged, "millions of hard-working men and women [are] condemned to fear and insecurity in a massive, undocumented economy. Illegal entry across our borders makes more difficult the urgent task of securing the homeland."

    If the U.S. Border Patrol could be freed from futile attempts to block the entry of millions of Latino workers, they could concentrate their efforts on intercepting criminals and terrorists.

    Rather than criminalizing immigrant workers, Congress should be considering the substantive proposals for immigration reform and the legalization of worker status proposed by both Democrats and Republicans.

    Kathleen Moccio is a trustee of the American Immigration Law Foundation. Katherine Fennelly is a professor at the University of Minnesota's Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs.

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    Kathleen and Katherine,
    We as Americans overrun by illegals in our neighborhood and streets know
    all to well about the facts. We live with them every day. Arrogant, hostile
    illegals. Mad with their country and hating ours for their upside down lives,
    never trying once to change their own country. Every civilization has had
    to change if it wanted to exist or cared about its people.
    If these people wanted to do right they would not live like phantoms, they
    obey the law and enter the country the right way. Obey and respect its laws.

    It is amazing how some liberal Americans or even Hispanic Americans will
    not face reality. Read the comments made by Hispanic professor and
    organizations, they are telling you that you have not rights to lands owned
    by them at one time. This attitude is very prevalent here in Texas.

    Kathleen and Katherine Just maybe when you feel their wrath in your
    neighbor, you will not be so pro-illegal immigration but if you two are,
    take them home with you.

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    His brand of fear-mongering about illegal immigration and his active encouragement of vigilantes should have no place in Minnesota politics.
    Fear mongering. I call it being smart. Vigilantes? Oh yeah those Minutemen were such monsters sitting in their lawn chairs reporting violations of our immigration laws from the border hopping pests down south. Of course no outcry about Mexico's encouragement of the vigilantes who take the law into their own hands when they cross our borders illegally.

    Immigration reform is sorely needed in the United States, but responsible proposals must be based upon facts and not incendiary rhetoric.
    Oh you mean amnesty. That's suppose to be responsible immigration reform? Since when have the OBL presented facts that exonerate their laughable positions on this issue? They want us to be tolerate of them, but they don't want to be tolerate of any of our views.

    The fact is that the American economy is dependent upon immigrant labor.
    Since when? Since when has this country been dependent about illegal alien lawbreakers stealing our jobs, dumbing down our wages and sucking up our tax dollars like a bunch of cheap whores at a strip joint? Who were doing these jobs before the illegals showed up?

    As baby boomers retire, there will be a reduction in the size of the nation's workforce. Our rapidly "graying" nation relies upon immigrant workers to fill the gap.
    That's a load of garbage. Our population right now is close to 300 million. So you mean to tell me when a couple of million baby boomers retire that there won't be enough willing Americans to take their place that we need these illegals here? Come on. There's over 14 million unemployed Americans who can't find a job now. So what does that tell you? Tells me there's too many people, too many immigrants coming into the country. This crap about an aging, dieing population is nonsense.

    Yet all this propaganda is excuse enough to justify an illegal alien invasion that they can come over here, thumb their noses at our laws, breed like rabbits and take over our country? I don't think so.

    I know this is off topic, but isn't it funny that these fools who scream falsely about a declining population are all for abortion on demand?

    Tancredo rails against "illegal immigrants," but he doesn't address why so many undocumented workers come to the United States. The answer is that many industries recruit low-wage workers, but the government doesn't issue them visas. Less than 1 percent of the "employment-based visas" granted by the U.S. government are for low-skilled workers.
    Wrong as usual. No the reason why illegal (not undocumented) aliens come to the US is because Benedict Arnold businesses hire them for third world wages (which violates several laws civil and federal) and our inept government does nothing to crack down. They hire these invaders for dirt cheap to keep the payroll down and to reap major profits for themselves. They hire illegals so they don't have to pay health care and other benefits and they don't have to pay taxes as well. They can just dump the cost on the citizens. Tom Tancredo is addressing this right, you close the borders, crack down on the employers and round up the criminal aliens and their won't be a problem once you dry up the jobs. Prosecute a few major businesses, throw the corrupters in jail for about 10 years and cease all of their assets and make them pay for the cost of the illegal invaders health care, education, etc. See if businesses hire them then. Of course this all makes sense unless your a mentally deranged sociopath from the OBL.

    The result is that undocumented immigrant workers are vilified, while their industrial employers are rarely fined.
    I could care less if the illegals are vilified. That's the price they pay for breaking our laws. Come here legally and you won't have that problem.

    Rather than closing our borders, we need to increase the numbers of workers over the next seven years to fill many of the 21 million new jobs projected by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
    Why don't we just move the entire population of Mexico in while your at it? Gheesh. Never mind that again 14 million Americans can't find work. Lets just displace 21 million more.

    I have a better solution. How about you squatters stay on your side of the border and beg El Crackpot de Mexico for some jobs? It's not the responsibility of the US to feed, cloth, shelter and find work for the entire population of Mexico or anyone elses population for that matter, but our own.

    Against the advice of the Department of Homeland Security, Tancredo is militant in his drive to seal the U.S. border. He has enthusiastically endorsed the "Minuteman Project," a group of armed volunteers who patrol the Arizona Border.

    President Bush has called the militia "vigilantes," but Tancredo calls them "heroes" and has invited their leaders to address members of Congress in his Immigration Reform Caucus.
    The MMP are heroes and so is Tom Tancredo and I hope that he runs for the presidency and if he wins I will cry tears of joy because then and truly then the age of stupidity will come to an end and these locusts will be rounded up and deported once and for all and we can finally have our country back and finally restore sanity and dignity to the White House. We can finally have a leader that knows what the constitution is and won't use it merely as toilet paper to wipe his royal behind with.

    Among these so-called heroes are white supremacists from the neo-Nazi National Alliance. Members of the Alliance were at the project's kickoff, and some carried assault weapons in their trucks and boasted that they were scouting "sniper positions."
    Wrong. The MMP did background checks on all those who applied and rejected those who would resort to hostile actions. Another lie debunked.

    The vigilantism and militarization of the border called for by Tancredo make it more difficult to secure our borders, not less.
    How do you figure that? The whole entire Naco area of Arizona that the MMP occupied was soundly shut down. Illegal alien traffic was severely reduced to almost non existent levels. That claim holds no water. You secure the border by having less people patrolling it? That would be like saying you can't win a race by running really fast.

    As Bush has acknowledged, "millions of hard-working men and women [are] condemned to fear and insecurity in a massive, undocumented economy.
    Well that's the way it should be. Criminals should live in fear and insecurity. Not rewarded for their lawlessness. Duh!

    Illegal entry across our borders makes more difficult the urgent task of securing the homeland."
    Again Duh! Does that mean we are in agreeance then? If illegal entry across our borders makes it more difficult to secure the homeland then doesn't that mean we should stop it?

    If the U.S. Border Patrol could be freed from futile attempts to block the entry of millions of Latino workers, they could concentrate their efforts on intercepting criminals and terrorists.
    So what this idiot is saying is that if they aren't known criminals or terrorists to just let them all in? That is nonsense. How can you be able to tell if someone is a criminal or a terrorist by just looking at them? Funny all this coming from the same crowd that denounces any effort from us to enforce immigration law even if it's against violence street gangs, murders, rapists, child molesters, burgulars, etc who committ crimes on top of being illegal. No matter how bad the crime is, we arrest an illegal alien latino and the next day the OBL will scream racial profiling. Earth to idiots, all illegals are criminals.

    Another thing to ask. We have a legal process that the world confirms to if they want to enter this country legally. Why should latinos have special treatment over anyone else? Because they are latino that they are above the law and we should just bow down to their every wish. That's absurd. So we should just let all latinos (particularly Mexicans) walk right on in and make everyone else stand in line and wait. That is garbage. Wait your dang turn in line like everyone else.

    Rather than criminalizing immigrant workers, Congress should be considering the substantive proposals for immigration reform and the legalization of worker status proposed by both Democrats and Republicans.
    How about we enforce our immigration laws instead of rewarding lawbreakers who steal jobs from willing American workers? I'm up for that.

    Kathleen Moccio is a trustee of the American Immigration Law Foundation. Katherine Fennelly is a professor at the University of Minnesota's Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs.
    Here's the final piece of the puzzle. So gee I wonder why this shyster lawyer wants amnesty for illegal aliens so badly? Wouldn't be because she is a whore to the almighty dollar would it? As far as the professor goes I don't know what her motives are other then she's probably some mentally deranged leftwing whack job that got her education from Beserekly U, NYU, Harvard, Jihad U at San Franfreako U or any of the other esteemed places of lower learning. Isn't it amazing that the ones who scream for the illegals the loudest are the ones who illegally profit the most from their illegal behavior?
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    Kathleen and Katherine Just maybe when you feel their wrath in your
    neighbor, you will not be so pro-illegal immigration but if you two are,
    take them home with you.
    Exactly. These nitwits want to force an all out invasion on us, force us to pay for everything they want and desire and expect us to be happy about it. Why doesn't the OBL pay for the illegal alien benefits themselves instead of aiding and abetting the invasion off of our nickel?
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    Why doesn't the OBL pay for the illegal alien benefits themselves instead of aiding and abetting the invasion off of our nickel?
    They are great at spending YOUR money trying to save the world.
    Note that there was no mention of the cost to taxpayers and the fact that the vast majority of immigrants are uneducated. Criticizing them is like shooting fish in a barrel since they obviously did not do their research.
    Maybe they just aren't smart enough.
    http://www.alipac.us Enforce immigration laws!

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