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    Arrest Immigrants, Flood the Courts

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    Arrest Immigrants, Flood the Courts
    Congress is blind to what a border crackdown would do to the overworked judiciary.

    By Charles L. Lindner
    CHARLES L. LINDNER is past president of the Los Angeles Criminal Bar Assn.

    July 16, 2006

    HOUSE Republicans pushing an enforcement-first approach to illegal immigration have been silent on one key question: What happens after an immigrant is arrested?

    U.S. District Judge Robert C. Brack puts it another way: "You can add Border Patrol agents, but if you do, you'd better think [downstream]. You'd better think marshals; you'd better think prosecutors, probation and pretrial services officers, defense lawyers, judges and clerk's staff — all of those things."

    The problem is that almost no one in Congress is thinking about the effects of tougher immigration enforcement on the federal judiciary system. House-passed legislation does not allocate the money needed to pay for its proposed crackdown on illegal immigrants. Nor does the Senate bill.

    Make no mistake, a compromise on the two bills probably will contain enforcement provisions tougher than those now on the books. At a minimum, the Border Patrol will be beefed up. The House bill would add 1,000 agents, the Senate's 2,500 as quickly as possible. How might the increase affect the federal judiciary system?

    Of the 69,000 federal criminal cases filed last year, 17,000 were immigration-related. Many were for illegal entry into the United States; human smuggling was the fastest-growing arrest category. In a five-month period in Arizona in 2004, the Border Patrol reported arresting 203,460 unauthorized immigrants. It pursued the prosecution of 2,067 felony and misdemeanor cases. In other words, the government prosecuted one criminal case for every 100 immigrants apprehended.

    Prosecuting a larger fraction of the immigrants caught during that period would have put added pressure on the federal judiciary there. But the purpose of adding border agents is to make more arrests and get more convictions. Clearly, at some point, the federal judiciary system would be unable to process the increasing caseload unless significantly buttressed.

    Judges would be the first to feel the burden of tougher enforcement. About 1,100 of them sit in the nation's federal district courts, and they are already overworked. (By way of comparison, California alone has 1,399 Superior Court judges.) Federal judges, on average, each have 87 open felony cases before them. In Brack's district in New Mexico, a state hard-hit by illegal immigration, the average caseload is 405. In the Laredo division of Texas' southern federal district, which also is on the frontline of the illegal influx, the average is 1,400.

    Congress is reluctant to add to the supply of judges by appointing new ones because more judges mean more courthouses, more offices for federal prosecutors and public defenders, more marshals, more clerks and so on — and that is costly.

    Most expensively, more illegal immigrant arrests and convictions mean more prisons and staff to run them. The federal Bureau of Prisons operates 106 facilities and 28 urban correction centers for pretrial detainees. It oversees 185,000 prisoners; its 2006 budget is $4.9 billion.

    Consider this worst-case scenario: The immigration legislation passed by the House in December would make illegal presence in this country a felony. If just 1% of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants were arrested and convicted under the proposed law, the Bureau of Prisons would be overwhelmed. In the last three years, it added more than 11,000 inmate beds. Imprisoning the new felons would require 110,000 more beds. New prisons would cost of billions of dollars.

    The Department of Homeland Security, through Immigration and Customs Enforcement, can — and would — avoid putting immigrants through the criminal justice system by increasing its use of administrative detention for alleged immigration violators. Just how many would be detained and for how long is unknown, but the waiting period for a hearing can stretch into years. As of 2004, ICE operated 16 detention centers in eight states and one in Puerto Rico. The facilities currently house about 23,000 detainees.

    Under the Senate-passed legislation, the Congressional Budget Office reports, 20 new immigration detention centers would have to be built, at a cost of $70 million each. These facilities would collectively house 10,000 prisoners at a time, which is less than a thousandth of the lower end of the estimated illegal immigrant population. The cost of staff and maintenance from 2007 to 2011 would be $1.5 billion.

    Tough talk on immigration is cheap. But the politicians who engage in it risk collapsing a judiciary system already overburdened with criminal cases. Creating more criminals hardly seems the answer.
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    We have the money! If we spend billions in Iraq and Afganastan we have enough to enforce the Law!!

    This guy is a lacky for the pro-shamnesty groups!

    Illegal is Illegal and should not be rewarded with amnesty.

    I guess in his world everybody in this country can break the law because we lack the funds and space to deal with law and order!

    He can leave town with the illegals as far as I'm concerned! Traitor!
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    Under the Senate-passed legislation, the Congressional Budget Office reports, 20 new immigration detention centers would have to be built, at a cost of $70 million each. These facilities would collectively house 10,000 prisoners at a time, which is less than a thousandth of the lower end of the estimated illegal immigrant population. The cost of staff and maintenance from 2007 to 2011 would be $1.5 billion
    How about putting Sheriff Arpaio in Charge of building some tent city's. He could do it for little or nothing. He could build 10,000 Detention Centers for that price.
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    I agree! How about Sheriff Arpaio for Head of Homeland Security!

    I'd trust him to get the job done and bring back sovereingnty and law and order! I want Big business out of Washington!

    God help us, November elections can't come any sooner!
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    THEY got us into this situation and now THEY want to cry uncle and make US eat dirt? They want to 'surrender' and wave the white flag?

    I think not.

    Add to the Billions of $$$.......18 Billion to Africa, 50 or so Million to the Palisinians every year, ILLEGALs raping our Medical system, Billions for educating ILLEGALS, Millions in grants to LaRaza and groups, the rest of the aid to Latin American countries.

    What did I leave out? There's BILLIONS that I've forgotten.

    Oh, Millions in aid to North Korea.
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    Re: Arrest Immigrants, Flood the Courts

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian503a
    Creating more criminals hardly seems the answer.
    What a bunch of pro-illegal drivel!!

    Umm. . . no one is, "creating," criminals except the individuals themselves who sneak across our border illegally. THEY are making THEMSELVES criminals!! Talk about blaming the victim!!

    So if we follow this logic, if our courts are overburdened, we just give all the criminals amnesty - just let 'em go! I know: We have too many murder cases pending in our courts, so let's make murder legal!! Or how about this: Having murder be against the law is just, "creating more criminals," out of those people who want to murder other people, so we should do away with laws making murder illegal!! What a complete jackass!!

    Are people who read that crap actually stupid enough to believe it!?!
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    I agree 2nd if we took the billions of dollars we are giving to other countries and used it for our own law enforcement we would be all set. Charity begins at home
    Freedom isn't free... Don't forget the men who died and gave that right to all of us....
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