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    Democrats Block 2018 Budget, Gain Another Month to Push Amnesty



    by NEIL MUNRO
    17 Jan 2018
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    Democrats have successfully blocked the government’s 2018 budget for another month, giving them more time to exhaust and frustrate President Donald Trump and GOP leaders into accepting the Democrats’ game-winning amnesty for millions of illegals.

    Late Tuesday, the GOP gave up on 2018 budget talks and drafted a new temporary budget plan, dubbed a Continuing Resolution, which would keep the government open for another month until February 16. That date will mark almost five months after the 2018 budget was slated to begin October 1.

    If the CR passes the House and Senate, the GOP and the Democrats will get another month to develop a 2018 budget while Democrats gain another month to wear down GOP and Trump opposition to their amnesty-plus plan.

    The amnesty talks are being overseen by the four deputy leaders of the Senate and House , including GOP Majority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy. Democrats’ negotiations tactics include emotional public claims of racism, televised sob stories from migrants, skewed polls, as well as intense back-room lobbying by illegal immigrants, open-borders advocates and by the CEOs whose stock-options would be reduced if a shortage of labor drives up wages.

    If the amnesty does get approved by an exhausted Trump and GOP, it would wreck Trump’s “Buy American, Hire American” presidency, 2018 turnout and his reelection. The approval would prove that Democrats, the establishment media, and business lobbies have the political power to simply raise the supply of cheap imported labor whenever companies are forced to pay higher wages to Americans, regardless of Trump’s stunning victory in 2016.

    If the Democrats’ amnesty push is foiled, then voters will be able to decide in November if they want a Congress to reduce or raise the immigration which has helped freeze Americans’ wages since 2000.

    The GOP’s short-term CR plan may get a vote in the House on Thursday, leaving the Senate little time to accept the plan by Friday night, after which the government starts closing down many non-essential functions.

    Democratic leaders suggest they are willing to oppose a short-term budget — and to force a government shutdown. For example, the House Democrats’ deputy leader, Rep. Steny Hoyer, told reporters on Tuesday:

    "We want to keep the government open. But I will repeat, we’re not going to be held hostage to do things that we think are contrary to the best interests of the American people because we will do the right thing and [Republicans] don’t care."

    House Democrats will not block the CR, predicted Virginia Rep. Dave Brat. “I don’t think anybody has any appetite for a shutdown — the Democrats don’t want to go there …. the Democrats polling looks terrible for them,” he said.

    Democrats can block any budget because their minority of 49 votes in the Senate is enough to prevent passage of any budget through the Senate.

    House GOP leaders have tried to win some Senate Democratic votes for the short-term plan by including several Democratic spending priorities, including a six-year extension of the CHIP health-care program for children.

    GOP leaders may also need Democratic votes in the House because the GOP’s defense-industry members threatened to vote against the leaders’ budget because it does not guarantee a big increase in defense spending for the rest of the year. The extra defense money is not in the budget because Democratic leaders are demanding that any defense increase is accompanied by a similar increase in non-defense spending.

    In response, some of the budget hawks suggested they will approve giveaway-amnesty in exchange for a defense increase. “Frankly, I think it’s not that hard to get a DACA deal, but the question is do [Capitol Hill leaders] want to?” Rep. Mac Thornberry, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, told reporters.

    GOP leaders have tried to separate the amnesty fight from the budget, partly because any separation would minimize Democratic leverage in the dispute.

    But Democrats are keeping the two issues linked by claiming that the budget dispute is about several spending priorities — while also all saying those budget issues could be solved if the GOP surrenders on the amnesty. For example, Montana Sen. Jon Tester, who is facing election in November, is trying to portray himself as a Trump ally while he blocks a budget deal by demanding extra funding for health care centers. Politico reported:

    Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) also declined to commit to voting for a stopgap spending bill this week that didn’t address his key priorities, citing community health centers rather than DACA. Any funding bill “has to have” those priorities included, he told reporters.

    The Democrats’ hide-the-amnesty strategy is acknowledged by a variety of pro-amnesty advocates and makes political sense because polls show the public strongly opposes wage-cutting mass immigration. According to CNN:

    “If Democrats stay united on all issues, and (DACA) doesn’t get isolated the way it was in December, then there’s a better chance that Democrats have leverage to compel the kind of negotiations that might produce a deal in time,” Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice Education Fund, a pro-immigration reform group, told reporters …

    Democratic Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia said he would “reject” any characterization of Democrats shutting down the government over DACA or anything else, saying it was essential for Democrats to stay united and keep all their issues together.

    “Right now, there’s a lot of linkage with a lot of issues, and Democrats are doing, I think, the right thing in highlighting the unfinished business and the linkages, right?” Connolly said, citing children’s health insurance, veterans’ benefits, surveillance reform and DACA. “And you’ve got to use all the leverage you’ve got while you’ve got it.”


    The Senate GOP’s deputy leader, Sen. John Cornyn, however, says the Democrats are holding up the budget to win the amnesty. “Democrats are holding [a budget] deal hostage for a DACA negotiation,” he said Monday.

    Aided by favorable media, Democrats in the Senate are playing so tough that they plan to formally introduce their amnesty-plus plan on Wednesday.

    That amnesty-plus has already been rejected by Trump on January 11 in a meeting where Trump opposed migration quotas from “shithole” countries. Since then, Democrats have repeatedly claimed that Trump can partially expiate his sins by endorsing their amnesty. “Extortion would be a good word for it, probably better than blackmail it seems,” said Rosemary Jenks, director of government relations at NumbersUSA.com. She continued:

    "President Trump is the is only one who is focused on how do we bring people back into the labor market … here are these Democrats saying you’re a racist if you don’t do what we say which will actually hurt poor Americans, including African-Americans"

    Trump and some GOP immigration experts oppose the Democrats’ amnesty-plus because it offers only token changes to the visa lottery program and to the chain-migration rules, and only offers one year’s worth of wall-building money.

    The version of the amnesty-plus plan slated for announcement on Wednesday does not seem to include any additional proposals to meet Trump’s election-winning, poll-approved immigration priorities.

    The amnesty-plus plan would cover roughly 3 million younger illegals, plus millions of their parents, plus roughly 400,000 Temporary Protected Status migrants, plus millions of their future chain-migration relatives.

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    Summary of Senate immigration bipartisan deal being rolled out tomorrow

    2:36 PM - 16 Jan 2018


    GOP leaders are formally opposing the amnesty — but are doing very little to alert the public to the Democrats’ wage-cutting amnesty. For example, GOP Senate Leader Mitch McConnell denounced the amnesty push as unneeded pending a court battle which has restarted the DACA amnesty — but has declined to make any emotional or wage-related <acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> argument against the Dmeocrats’ amnesty.


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    With no imminent deadline on #immigration, and with bipartisan talks well underway, there is no reason why Congress should hold government funding hostage over the issue of illegal immigration.

    1:43 PM - Jan 16, 2018


    Similarly, the GOP leadership in the House has done nothing to promote the combined reform-and-amnesty plan developed by judiciary chairman Rep. Bob Goodlatte.

    On Tuesday, House members at a caucus meeting pressed their leadership to push the Goodlatte bill through the House. “They were nodding yes in conference today, but they have not given any firm commitment,” said Brat. He continued:

    "Goodlatte stood up and spoke, [Rep. Raul] Labrador spoke at the caucus meeting. That bill has widespread support … We think we can get all Republican votes, 218, for real … They need to support it, whip it, and push it."

    "[Polls show] we have the leverage now, and want to see our leadership take command, not only with the Democrats but with the Senate. It is time for them to take some votes, not us, as always."

    In 2014, House and Senate GOP leaders adopted a strategy of “failure theater” to disguise their unwillingness to oppose former President Barack Obama’s ‘DAPA’ amnesty for several million illegal-immigrant parents of native-born children. In a series of step-by-step retreats, GOP leaders went from arguing in November 2014 they would fight the amnesty “tooth and nail” to shrugging their shoulders in March 2015.

    Without GOP backup, Trump will come under greater pressure from the media and the Democrats to surrender the amnesty in exchange for some wall-construction funds — but without any legal changes to prevent people using legal loopholes in the wall, and without any changes to chain-migration and the visa lottery.

    If Trump keeps his policies firm, however, the GOP will be able to use the Democrats’ pro-immigration, anti-American behavior to win more seats in Congress in the 2018 election.

    “The Democratic base is rewarding that kind of [pro-amnesty] behavior,” said Brat. “I think the country will differ” when they get the chance to vote on the Democrats’ refusal to develop popular policies on health care, the economy, and immigration, he added.

    Polls show that Trump’s American-first immigration policy is very popular. For example, a December poll of likely 2018 voters shows two-to-one voter support for Trump’s pro-American immigration policies, and a lopsided four-to-one opposition against the cheap-labor, mass-immigration, economic policy pushed by bipartisan establishment-backed D.C. interest-groups.

    Business groups and Democrats tout the misleading, industry-funded “Nation of Immigrants” polls which pressure Americans to say they welcome migrants, including the roughly 670,000 ‘DACA’ illegals and the roughly 3.25 million ‘dreamer’ illegals.

    The alternative “priority or fairness” polls — plus the 2016 election — show that voters in the polling booth put a much higher priority on helping their families, neighbors, and fellow nationals get decent jobs in a high-tech, high-immigration, low-wage economy.

    Four million Americans turn 18 each year and begin looking for good jobs in the free market.

    But the federal government inflates the supply of new labor by annually accepting 1 million new legal immigrants, by providing work-permits to roughly 3 million resident foreigners, and by doing little to block the employment of roughly 8 million illegal immigrants.

    The Washington-imposed economic policy of economic growth via mass-immigration floods the market with foreign labor, spikes profits and Wall Street values by cutting salaries for manual and skilled labor offered by blue-collar and white-collar employees. It also drives up real estate prices, widens wealth-gaps, reduces high-tech investment, increases state and local tax burdens, hurts kids’ schools and college education, pushes Americans away from high-tech careers, and sidelines at least 5 million marginalized Americans and their families, including many who are now struggling with opioid addictions.

    The cheap-labor policy has also reduced investment and job creation in many interior states because the coastal cities have a surplus of imported labor. For example, almost 27 percent of zip codes in Missouri had fewer jobs or businesses in 2015 than in 2000, according to a new report by the Economic Innovation Group. In Kansas, almost 29 percent of zip codes had fewer jobs and businesses in 2015 compared to 2000, which was a two-decade period of massive cheap-labor immigration.

    Because of the successful cheap-labor strategy, wages for men have remained flat since 1973, and a large percentage of the nation’s annual income has shifted to investors and away from employees.

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    GIVES THE COURT 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE DACA!

    END THE WORK PERMITS AND DEMAND THEY ARE REMOVED FROM THE COUNTRY!

    JEFF SESSIONS...GET IT TO THE COURT NOW AND SHUT DOWN DACA!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

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    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    John Kelly is on Fox News right now claiming he's the one who convinced the President to do this 6 month thing to give Congress time to do something with DACA.

    WALK AWAY!! NO DACA!! NO AMNESTY!!
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    JOHN KELLY IS A SNAKE!

    6 MONTHS FOR WHAT

    STOP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DEPORT THEM!

    THEY HAVE KICKED THIS GOD DAMNED CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR OVER 30 YEARS!

    JOHN KELLY...YOU ARE NOT IN IT FOR THE "LONG HAUL"...YOU NEED TO BE FIRED! AND KIRSTEN WHO WANTS TPS TO STAY!
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    Kelly is a fool, he's gotta go! NOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    John Kelly is on Fox News right now claiming he's the one who convinced the President to do this 6 month thing to give Congress time to do something with DACA.

    WALK AWAY!! NO DACA!! NO AMNESTY!!
    Yes, I saw that. Like I've been saying all along, General John Kelly was a bad hire!

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    He really was. Such a shame. He'll go out and down as a amnesty blackmailer. Terrible way to end an otherwise good military career, allowing and aiding foreign interests to blackmail our budget and military operations and compromise our public safety and national security.

    Disgusting.
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    "Goodlatte stood up and spoke, [Rep. Raul] Labrador spoke at the caucus meeting. That bill has widespread support … We think we can get all Republican votes, 218, for real … They need to support it, whip it, and push it."

    "[Polls show] we have the leverage now, and want to see our leadership take command, not only with the Democrats but with the Senate. It is time for them to take some votes, not us, as always."
    I know no one on here supports a DACA deal (amnesty), not even Goodlatte's, but I think he makes a fair point here about getting the Senate on record.

    Let the House take a vote and we'll know where each member stands. Of course we know the Senate will never pass Goodlatte's bill, but it will put many of the amnesty supporters on record as being against a Trump supported compromise. Of course such a move is not without risk because the Senate will attempt to change the House bill with amendments. However, I don't think the Senate and House will actually be able to reconcile their differences. If Trump remains true to his current position, he'll never support anything that could come out of the U.S. Senate.

    Pay me no mind, I'm just thinking out loud.

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