Thread: Donald Trump’s immigration message is potent. It’s also a lost cause.

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Donald Trump’s immigration message is potent. It’s also a lost cause.

By Janell Ross September 28 at 3:35 PM

America is a much more diverse country — in every region — than it was during the last century. That's largely due to the nearly record-topping share of the country's population that is comprised of immigrants, from areas of the world in which people were once forbidden to migrate to the United States. These trends, taken together, have transformed the makeup of the U.S. population — and with it, what many American cities (and television screens and city halls) look and sound like.

Those are the findings of a new report released by the Pew Research Center on Monday. The bottom line is this: The American demographic landscape has shifted considerably.

The number of immigrants who call the United States home has never been higher, and the percentage who are immigrants is higher than it's been in more than a century. The foreign-born comprise nearly 14 percent of the nation's total population; that's the most since European immigrants flooded into the United States in the 1890s.

And changes in the country's immigration laws have boosted the number of migrants coming from Asia, Africa and the Middle East — parts of the world from which migration was at points banned or consciously limited by 19th- and early-20th-century lawmakers who wanted to maintain a population that was primarily Western European in origin.

At the same time, a downturn in the U.S. economy and boosted fortunes in some parts of Latin America have stemmed the tide of legal and undocumented immigrants entering the United States from the region, including Mexico. Illegal migration to the United States peaked a decade ago, in 2005.

Today, Asian — and in particular, highly educated Southeast Asian — immigrants are now on track to become the nation's largest immigrant group. These immigrants, along with refugees and undocumented immigrants, have laid down roots in regions of this country that until the 1990s had not seen many immigrants in nearly 100 years.

For added detail about the way that the population has changed in your state, consider moving the timeline and reviewing Pew's interactive national map here.

This collection of "new Americans" is responsible for the majority of the nation's population growth. Put another way: If current immigration and birthrates continue at roughly the same rate in the years between 2015 and 2065, the children of immigrants are expected to account for 88 percent of the U.S. population increase, or 103 million people, according to the Pew report. And whites (or any other racial or ethnic group) won't comprise the nation's majority by about the middle of this century. The Pew report puts that date at 2055.

[August 2014: For first time, minority students expected to be majority in U.S. public schools this fall]

Pew's team of experienced population researchers arrived at these conclusions after poring over birth, death and migration data. So yes, this is a picture of the American public and its future that should be regarded as far more cogent than anything — yes, anything — offered up this year as the presidential campaign season has begun.

But it is also a picture that will, undoubtedly, unnerve some Americans. If it does, consider this your please-calm-yourself warning.

In the latter part of the 19th century, more people — with often less education and fewer language skills — flooded into this country at a slightly higher rate. And as those people got jobs, set up homes and built families and entire lives in the United States, they managed all manner of other things that presumably contributed to the sense that this country was once great.

If that historical context does not calm whatever level of xenophobia might be inside you, then this should:

America's changing demographics will never be returned to the place in which white Americans will maintain a comfortable numerical majority — not via any kind of immigration reform nor any brand of mass deportation. We are well past the point that such a transformation is even possible. It's now a matter of when, not if.

(A note here: GOP front-runner Donald Trump's call for an 18-month program of mass and absolute deportations would require the country to identify, find and then remove more than 20,000 people per day. And, barring some sort of change in the Constitution, this would still leave in place some of the American-born progeny of undocumented immigrants, as well as the fast-growing American-born Latino and Asian populations.)

William Frey, a Rice University demographer who led the Census Bureau during George W. Bush's tenure in the White House, has told me more than once that this is the statistical reality that America simply must face.

Frey does not mean to suggest that you should be kind and welcoming to your new American neighbors. He doesn't even mean that the population is changing in a way that there probably aren't many more successful campaigns for public office that can be built around the idea that different policies and practices could somehow make the country look, feel and sound like it did in 1950. The former is debatable; the latter is not.

White Americans, as has been often repeated but is worth noting here, are not just a shrinking part of the American population, but also its electorate. Some of that is due to birth rates, immigration and deaths, and some of that can only be explained by examining something almost never mentioned — that the share of white Americans who actually vote in presidential elections has been shrinking since 2004. That's a choice white voters are making.

What Frey means is this: The United States is a country that has for two centuries ultimately accepted a long list of policies and practices that reserve the bulk of its best schools and neighborhoods, health care and housing, jobs and wages for white Americans. This is the American way that will simply have to change in the face of a United States whose makeup is rapidly changing.

Janell Ross is a reporter for The Fix who writes about race, gender, immigration and inequality.

This has to stop and stop now! This is not a "lost cause". This is a dire emergency. I'm not talking about the racial composition. I'm talking about 103 million people added to our population by immigrant breeding! Our country can't sustain another 103 million people spawned by immigrants! We don't have enough jobs, money, food, utilities, land or anything else to accommodate another 103 million people!

Who is behind this? What evil disgusting insects from hell are trying to do this to our country? Who lets them in? Who gives permission for them to be here? Who won't run them out when they're here illegally?!

Our Government. Our Congress. Our Presidents, past and current.

This is why our country has become a shit-hole with 72 million people on Medicaid and another 14 million on SCHIP, people who can't even afford medical services for their own kids. 87% of illegal aliens are on welfare. 72% of all immigrants, legal and illegal, are on welfare. That means they're on Medicaid and SCHIP. There's 44 million foreign-born immigrants and illegal aliens in the US. That means approximately 75% of that figure is on welfare, that's 30 million non-Americans on welfare with Medicaid and SCHIP at the top of the list.

The average cost per Medicaid enrollee is $7,500 per person per year. If 30 million are on Medicaid or SCHIP, then how much is that annually? Well, that's $225 billion a year. Plus food stamps, plus free school lunch, plus WIC, TANF, public school, criminal justice, and all the rest of it. Education alone is $11,000 per child x what number? 20 million. That's $220 billion a year just for public education expenses for their kids.

Oh my God, we're talking about $600 billion a year spent on immigrants, legal and illegal, every single year plus all new net jobs go to them instead of Americans, which is why we have another 30 million Americans on welfare because illegal aliens and immigrants stole their jobs or deflated their hours and wages!!

People, this madness has to stop and stop now. This can not continue. Now, you stand up and tell those stupid farmers who are largely behind this madness, you pay whatever it takes, you do whatever is necessary to get American Workers to your farms, to milk your cows and pick your fruit. Not another word from you subsidized suckers, not another word. If you can't run your operation legally, then you can go broke, default on your loans and taxes, and someone else will take it over who can run it in accordance with our laws. You've whined and lobbied so much that you've caused an entire business community from construction to hotels to telemarketing to office work, landscape work, and on and on and on and on to think they can all whine like you do to undercut our workers and steal from taxpayers and citizens.

Americans have always had a soft spot in their hearts for our farmers. We've always loved the idea of the family farm and done everything we could to underwrite and subsidize your enterprises so you could keep them so our nation would always have them.

And look what you bastards have done in return? You've lobbied for an immigration wave that has overpopulated and bankrupted our once great nation now teeming with the wretched refuse of other countries.

Shame on You. Shame on You. Shame on You.

And to all the eggheads out there responsible for this disaster, Americans are not "xenophobic". Americans are not afraid of these people, we can't afford them. These aren't "immigrants", these are moochers and thieves. When "immigrants" came here many years ago, there was no Medicaid, Food Stamps, SCHIP, WIC, TANF. If they tried to steal a job from an American they'd have to win a street fight to get it. They didn't waltz in here and steal from this country. But since 1950, I believe that is all that they've done. For every one of them who succeeded, they caused an American to fail. For every dollar they made, they've stolen 2 from taxpayers to earn it.

STOP IT. STOP IT. STOP IT NOW.

We need at least a 10 Year, Maybe 20 Year Moratorium on Immigration and Trump is right, we must deport every single one of these illegal aliens, no matter what it takes, no matter what it costs.

GO TRUMP!

Nothing like waking up to morning coffee and another communist from the Washington Post telling us to "calm" ourselves about the intentional immigration overthrow of the United States and the genocide of white Americans.

W

Xenophobic. Ha! I think not. I'm not afraid of roaches or rats, but I still don't want them invading my home. This Janell Ross is confusing fear with disgust. I may have to some spend money on traps, foggers, and repellents, but that cost is nothing compared to throwing away contaminated food, repairing siding and chewed wires or health bills from contracting whatever germs these unwanted parasites bring into my home.

I'm tired of people comparing today's immigrants to those of the 1890's. Immigrants of those days assimilated. Americans were allowed to exercise free speech and shamed them into conformity. Today, asking any ethnicity to behave more like a traditional American leads to race cards being scattered about like playing 52 card pick up. If tomorrow we had to accept the behaviors of the Aztecs, would we allow the ritual where they sacrifice by ripping the beating heart from a victim? Would the media tell us to more compassionate? Would we be forced to just say, "well, you can't ask them not to do that, that's their culture. Embrace their contributions to our society. Don't be such an insensitive racist".

I have so much more to add, but some of have to go to work right now to pay for the leeches.

-Stop the invasion with mass deportation

Originally Posted by Goldendaze

Xenophobic. Ha! I think not. I'm not afraid of roaches or rats, but I still don't want them invading my home. This Janell Ross is confusing fear with disgust. I may have to some spend money on traps, foggers, and repellents, but that cost is nothing compared to throwing away contaminated food, repairing siding and chewed wires or health bills from contracting whatever germs these unwanted parasites bring into my home.

I'm tired of people comparing today's immigrants to those of the 1890's. Immigrants of those days assimilated. Americans were allowed to exercise free speech and shamed them into conformity. Today, asking any ethnicity to behave more like a traditional American leads to race cards being scattered about like playing 52 card pick up. If tomorrow we had to accept the behaviors of the Aztecs, would we allow the ritual where they sacrifice by ripping the beating heart from a victim? Would the media tell us to more compassionate? Would we be forced to just say, "well, you can't ask them not to do that, that's their culture. Embrace their contributions to our society. Don't be such an insensitive racist".

I have so much more to add, but some of have to go to work right now to pay for the leeches.

-Stop the invasion with mass deportation

Exactly!! Good Morning!

Goldendaz wrote:

I'm tired of people comparing today's immigrants to those of the 1890's. Immigrants of those days assimilated.

Yep, and their survival also wasn't dependent on government handouts (American citizen tax dollars).

We need to ask, "Did free enterprise out smart American government (the people) in their quest for lower prices and lower cost labor?? That made them financially able to buy American politicians before and after their election by the populace. I have to wonder how much of the money that goes to politicians, same as Trump admits having paid to politicians, too, has been converted to gold?

Trump's candidacy is displaying that still not an adequate number of Americans understand the threat, or are so financially secure, that they are profiting from illegal cheap labor, that they cannot be recruited for our movement? There are low wage workers, too, so very dependent upon their job, they are very susceptible to employer veiled threats. Thus they have to vote against their own interests to protect what little they have. American business has always been very competitive to cutthroat.

I have said it before, I will continue to say it as long as I live, the time to defeat illegal alien labor was in 1986, past tense intended, now guess what? No one was interested in 1986, their acting idol could do no wrong. I hope those people are aware of the error, and working to correct it. For the USA, I hope that they do correct it!

Originally Posted by MW

Goldendaz wrote:



Yep, and their survival also wasn't dependent on government handouts (American citizen tax dollars).

MW, I so wanted to add a parallel comment this morning. You took the words right out of my mouth. Thanks for mentioning the handouts.

Thanks to everyone. I really like being a participating member of ALIPAC. So much information. I'm learning new things. Appalling things and excitingly hopeful things. This experience gives me new found confidence that not everyone in the USA has blinders on.

Special thanks goes out to Judy for her persistent research and passionate excerpts.

Originally Posted by Goldendaze

Thanks to everyone. I really like being a participating member of ALIPAC. So much information. I'm learning new things. Appalling things and excitingly hopeful things. This experience gives me new found confidence that not everyone in the USA has blinders on.

Special thanks goes out to Judy for her persistent research and passionate excerpts.

Thank you so much Goldendaze! I'm really glad you're here!