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    Doors Shut as McCain, Obama Campaign Managers Address Hispan

    Doors Shut as McCain, Obama Campaign Managers Address Hispanics
    By Fred Lucas
    CNSNews.com Staff Writer
    June 26, 2008

    Washington (CNSNews.com) - The campaign managers for presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama spoke behind closed doors to more than 100 members of a national Hispanic organization on Wednesday.

    According to attendees, McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, said his candidate wanted to secure the borders before enacting comprehensive immigration reform that would include a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens currently in the United States.

    Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, also called for a pathway to citizenship and a guest worker program but didn't talk about enforcement, attendees told Cybercast News Service.

    The forum, part of the three-day National Hispanic Prayer Breakfast Conference held in Washington, D.C., was promoted as recently as Tuesday as open to media coverage. However, on the morning of the event, it was closed to the press.

    Marisol Martinez, spokeswoman for Esperanza, which sponsored the prayer breakfast conference, said Wednesday morning: "We are keeping the press out at the campaign managers' request."

    However, McCain campaign spokesman Jeff Sardosky told Cybercast News Service the campaign "tried to get this open to the press. Rick Davis, I believe, even said at the event it should be open to the press. The organization preferred that it be closed."

    By the afternoon, Martinez amended her statement. She said the event was always supposed to be closed to the press and that it was a mistake when organizers announced it would be open. She said she didn't know whose decision it was to close the event.

    "It was a miscommunication between our D.C. office and our office in Philadelphia," Martinez told Cybercast News Service.

    The Obama campaign could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

    Sandra Figueroa, a pastor of education at Life Academy in Allentown, Pa., was happy to hear McCain's campaign manager talk about school choice.

    "Education choice is important," Figueroa said. "He supports charter schools, vouchers and choice. He knows the (education) system is broken."

    Plouffe told the audience the candidate has laid out his top priorities upon taking office, said Erika Nassar, a conference attendee from Charlotte, N.C.

    "In his first 100 days, Obama wants to deal with four main topics: health insurance, the economy, energy and Iraq," Nassar said. "He wants to bring back the troops as soon as possible and believes the Iraqis should solve their own problems, not just rely on the U.S."

    Davis told the audience that McCain would support abstinence-only education, said Luis Galdamez, director of abstinence education for La Familia Hispana in Wildomar, Calif.

    Davis's statement that the U.S. should secure the borders before enacting other reforms drew a mixed response.

    "He said there is not enough public support for comprehensive immigration reform until you get the border patrolled," said Ricardo Moreno, a conference attendee from Los Angeles. "That's not realistic. No border is going to stop immigration."

    But the Rev. Walter Contreras of Los Angeles said he understands the politics of McCain's position.

    "If you like it or not, the American people want secure borders," Contreras told Cybercast News Service. "We are for securing the border, but we want to do it in a humane way."

    Plouffe said Obama supports the North American Free Trade Agreement and free trade overall but is concerned about human rights, said Orlando Crespo of New York, who heads up the Intervarsity Christian Fellowship in the Bronx.

    "He is for NAFTA and said free trade is necessary, but he is concerned about worker rights and human rights issues," Crespo said. "That's important to the faith-based community."

    But Lillian Riviera of Ponce, Puerto Rico, thought that at a prayer breakfast where attendees represent thousands of Hispanics, "it's disappointing the candidates wouldn't participate themselves."
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    both lost my vote because of thier views.. Austa La Bye - Bye to both of these freak Parties
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    More behind the door treasonous pandering by our elected officals.....too bad more Americans did not know of these kinds of acts by our politicians.

    God I pray a third party will win this election.
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    Doors Shut

    These 'closed door' meetings are an insult to American voters. Why are we not "allowed" to hear what OUR candidates are promising to Hispanics? What are they trying to hide?

    BAD BAD POLITICS

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    So according to this article, if amnesty John wins we'll get a fig leaf of border security, then a push for mass amnesty.

    If open borders Obama wins, there will be effectively no border security nor enforcement, with a quick push for mass amnesty.

    Both of these choices are unacceptable as my main issue is no amnesty.

    Even with McCain paying lip service to "border security first," I think he is the worst choice as it will be harder to fully mobilize talk radio and rank and file Republicans to oppose his amnesty plans than it would be for Obama.
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    If McCain managed to pass an amnesty, I wonder how he would explain what he would do with the millions of illegals that, for whatever reason, qualified for said amnesty but didn't fulfill their obligations (like learning English). At that point they will have grown "deeper roots", had hundreds of thousands more children, and moved more relatives here.

    What will he do with them then?

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    He said there is not enough public support for comprehensive immigration reform until you get the border patrolled," said Ricardo Moreno, a conference attendee from Los Angeles. "That's not realistic. No border is going to stop immigration."




    Keep telling yourself that, pal........who are you trying to convince that it's true, us or yourself?

    I can cite several examples of very effective borders throughout history Quite frankly, if it is going to secure my country, I am not averse to another Great Wall going up between here and Mexico and underground moats to prevent tunneling under it if that's what it takes.
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    If these two losers will lie and sneak behind our backs now, what do you supposed they'd do as President?
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    So much for transparency. They pull this behind closed doors stuff while campaigning just think what it will be like once they get into office.
    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!

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    Does anyone think that one of the "two major political parties" will reject these two PRO ILLEGAL OPEN BORDERS candidates in favor of a PRO United States, Secure the National Borders, and Enforce the Immigration Laws candidate?

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