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    They could compromise and pass a law similar to the 2008 Mississippi law and give the businesses a little time to be in compliance. That would be fair. They could just look for legal workers. Stop getting advice from Judas Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topsecret10
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    Lets hold on for a minute and not rush to judgment. Governor Rick Scott issued an executive order that requires all state agencies to use E-verify to check immigration status of all workers employed by and I believe funded by the state of Florida. This is huge, enormous, historical and in Florida, unprecedented.

    There is a group of members of the Florida General Assembly who are working on an AZ immigration law which if like Arizona's will make it a crime under the laws of Arizona to hire illegal aliens.

    Rick Scott is the Governor. He has done what he can do legally. He has no authority under Florida law to fine or shut down any business in Florida for not E-verifying their employees. He doesn't even have the authority as Governor to mandate businesses use E-verify. He needs state or federal legislation to do that. We know Republicans are working hard in Florida to pass a law that would enable him to do what he wants to do and we also know that our Republicans in Congress are working hard as well to pass legislation that would make E-verify mandatory for businesses in the United States. At either point whether on the state level or the federal level, there is legislation that mandates E-verify, then I'm certain Rick Scott will not only sign the bill into law, he will enforce the law.
    Scott has backed off a proposal to require private employers to use E-Verify.
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    Florida Legislature to discuss immigration reform

    The Florida Legislature begins three days of hearings on one of Tallahassee's most politically sensitive topics: immigration.
    BY KATHLEEN HAUGHNEY
    News Service of Florida

    TALLAHASSEE -- The first of three immigration meetings set for Monday will be the Senate's first look at a debate over a comprehensive Arizona-style measure, a topic that Gov. Rick Scott made one of the biggest social issues of his campaign.

    ``I don't like the idea that we have a prescription already in place,'' Senate President Mike Haridopolos said. ``What we're going to do is listen to people for six hours, remove all the political hyperbole, then we'll make an immigration change if necessary.''

    Haridopolos announced the meeting earlier this week and said it was to be purely informational. The Senate has invited several experts and advocates to offer their views at the meeting, which will be chaired by freshman Sen. Anitere Flores, R-Miami. He said he is considering the idea of holding several more meetings around the state because the issue is so controversial.

    `POLITICAL GAMES'

    ``Again there's so much rhetoric on both sides, that we can't afford to play those political games,'' Haridopolos said. ``I refuse to.''

    Over the summer, lawmakers began discussing potential legislation modeled after the new Arizona law to root out illegal immigrants living in Florida. The issue became a major piece of newly inaugurated Gov. Rick Scott's gubernatorial campaign and was also embraced by new Attorney General Pam Bondi.

    Former Attorney General Bill McCollum and Rep. Will Snyder, R-Stuart, introduced draft legislation this summer that would require police to check the status of suspected illegal immigrants during a lawful stop, require businesses to use a federal database to check the status of new hires and subject illegal immigrants who commit crimes to harsher penalties than legal immigrants or U.S. citizens.

    Snyder has also met with Bondi and said she would play a role in drafting language on the bill and plans to meet with representatives of the police chiefs' and the sheriff's association. He also has a town hall meeting slated for Friday in Martin County. Through a spokeswoman, Bondi reiterated her support for the Legislature's intent to pass an immigration package and said she intends to work with Snyder and members of the Senate on draft legislation. Bondi's staff will also be tracking the Senate's meetings.

    ``I intend to work with the Legislature to ensure that any immigration bill protects the public, upholds the rule of law, and guards against racial profiling,'' Bondi said via e-mail.

    Meanwhile, Sen. Mike Bennett, R-Bradenton, has filed a bill that allows law enforcement officers during a lawful detention or arrest to ask for the detainee's immigration documents if the officer suspects they may be in the country illegally. The bill, however, prohibits law enforcement from using race as a reason for checking the person's documentation. The bill also penalizes legal immigrants who refuse to carry their documentation, with a possible fine of up to $100 and a 20-day jail sentence.

    Democrats and several Republican Hispanic members of the Legislature have reserved comment on the issue until a final version of legislation is produced. Snyder has also said he will not make any move on his immigration package without first consulting Hispanic caucus chair Esteban Bovo, R-Miami.

    `ON THE SAME PATH'

    ``I think everybody has an open mind on this issue,'' Haridopolos said. ``We just want to see the law enforced.''

    Scott has already signed an executive order requiring state agencies to use the E-Verify system to check workers' immigration status.

    Haridopolos said the Senate would be taking direction from ``what we're hearing from the people of Florida.'' Snyder said he has not yet met with Scott, but said he hopes to meet with him once the new governor is settled in his office. He said he was pleased with the governor's decision to mandate E-Verify. ``Looks like the governor and I are on the same path,'' Snyder said.
    The Miami Herald

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/09/2 ... z1BJcvJr7f
    They have a method, they have a plan, everything in sequence. Lets hope the people of Florida stand up and stand tall for themselves and their fellow citizens and express overwhelming support for mandatory E-verify so the legislature can gain the votes required to pass it.

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    You are a lot more confident then us Floridians who have watched our Legislature begin to back track on their campaign promises. Notice all of a sudden they are meeting with Hispanic groups and Hispanic members of our Legislature who donot want any kind of Illegal Immigration Enforcement.

    I watched part of their meeting on Illegal Immigration last week and there sat Miami Rep. Garcia wearing his passport around his neck and bemoaning how all Hispanics will need to wear ID to keep from being stopped and questioned.

    Floridians should not have to keep proding our Legislature to do the job they said they would do to get elected. Enough is enough !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPatriot
    You are a lot more confident then us Floridians who have watched our Legislature begin to back track on their campaign promises. Notice all of a sudden they are meeting with Hispanic groups and Hispanic members of our Legislature who donot want any kind of Illegal Immigration Enforcement.

    I watched part of their meeting on Illegal Immigration last week and there sat Miami Rep. Garcia wearing his passport around his neck and bemoaning how all Hispanics will need to wear ID to keep from being stopped and questioned.

    Floridians should not have to keep proding our Legislature to do the job they said they would do to get elected. Enough is enough !!!
    after all of the SHIT we had to listen too on the TV and Radio ad's from the Campaign trail ... to say I am going to be pissed is a misnomer

    you either are or you are not going to fix this shit ... if you say maybe you will fix it, grab your last paycheck and walk to the door

    if you say you will not attempt to fix it then let the recall and the games begin
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    "Something like this or any major issues should be left up to the voters in that state not Jethro Bush and his merry-ochee band of followers!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy
    Lets hold on for a minute and not rush to judgment. Governor Rick Scott issued an executive order that requires all state agencies to use E-verify to check immigration status of all workers employed by and I believe funded by the state of Florida. This is huge, enormous, historical and in Florida, unprecedented.

    There is a group of members of the Florida General Assembly who are working on an AZ immigration law which if like Arizona's will make it a crime under the laws of Arizona to hire illegal aliens.

    Rick Scott is the Governor. He has done what he can do legally. He has no authority under Florida law to fine or shut down any business in Florida for not E-verifying their employees. He doesn't even have the authority as Governor to mandate businesses use E-verify. He needs state or federal legislation to do that. We know Republicans are working hard in Florida to pass a law that would enable him to do what he wants to do and we also know that our Republicans in Congress are working hard as well to pass legislation that would make E-verify mandatory for businesses in the United States. At either point whether on the state level or the federal level, there is legislation that mandates E-verify, then I'm certain Rick Scott will not only sign the bill into law, he will enforce the law.


    THank you Judy
    for the info

    But Gov Rick Scott
    should stand tall & fight for what right this is Flo
    & the Illegal Immigrant have your jobs . & they have your town one hell of a mess . I have been to flo .all I see are illegal immigrants In store every Business & they do sound like baby chicken . Gov Scott figth .
    get the illegal immigrant out & you can do it .
    Good luck
    no Amnesty
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