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    Heard on the kfi radio tonight that whenever there are protests a group called National Lawyers Guild comes and observes the police to make sure they handle the situation correctly. Also ANSWER coalition was mentioned. Both have criticized the mayor for supporting the officers and both feel the officers in this situation were murderers.

    Also it was said that 2 of the people arrested were illegals, ICE has been notified and they may be deported. But it was also said under Obama's new guidelines they may not be.

    Should note, my comments are hearsay, no factual source that I know of. Just passing on what I heard.
    We have immigration laws that just need to be enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jean
    Heard on the kfi radio tonight that whenever there are protests a group called National Lawyers Guild comes and observes the police to make sure they handle the situation correctly. Also ANSWER coalition was mentioned.
    Both groups are Communists.
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    A.N.S.W.E.R.

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    Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER) — also known as International A.N.S.W.E.R. and the ANSWER Coalition — is a United States-based protest organization. Formed in the wake of the September 11th attacks, ANSWER has since helped to organize many of the largest anti-war demonstrations in the United States, including demonstrations of hundreds of thousands against the Iraq War. The group has also organized activities around a variety of other issues, ranging from the Israel/Palestine debate to immigrant rights to Social Security to the extradition of Luis Posada Carriles.[citation needed]

    ANSWER characterizes itself as anti-imperialist, and its steering committee consists of socialists, civil rights advocates, and left-wing or progressive organizations from the Muslim, Arab, Palestinian, Filipino, Haitian, and Latin American communities. ANSWER was formed at the initiative of Ramsey Clark and the International Action Center; many of ANSWER's leaders were members of Workers World Party at the time of ANSWER's founding, and are current members of the Party for Socialism and Liberation.

    ANSWER has faced criticism from other anti-war groups for its affiliations, tactics at demonstrations, and allegedly sectarian approach to joint anti-war work. It also faced criticism from various sources for its anti-Zionist and allegedly antisemetic politics.

    Though its national headquarters are in Washington, D.C., where it organizes its national antiwar demonstrations, the coalition's influence is seen as being strongest in San Francisco, and increasingly, in Los Angeles.[citation needed]

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    National Lawyers Guild

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    The National Lawyers Guild (NLG) is a progressive bar association in the United States "dedicated to the need for basic and progressive change in the structure of our political and economic system . . . to the end that human rights shall be regarded as more sacred than property interests."[1]

    Its members include lawyers, law students, paralegals, legal secretaries, "jailhouse lawyers", and other legal workers. It was founded in 1937 as an alternative to the American Bar Association (in protest of the ABA' then policy of excluding blacks and Jews from membership) and has several local chapters across the country as well as a number of Committees and Projects. The NLG web site lists the following aims:

    to eliminate racism;
    to safeguard and strengthen the rights of workers, women, farmers and minority groups, upon whom the welfare of the entire nation depends;
    to maintain and protect our civil rights and liberties in the face of persistent attacks upon them;
    to use the law as an instrument for the protection of the people, rather than for their repression.

    The NLG has historically been noted for its championing of progressive and left-wing causes.[2] Currently, the NLG opposes the PATRIOT Act, corporate globalization, the World Trade Organization, and has called for the adoption of "the Plan of Action from the 2001 UN World Conference Against Racism, Xenophobia, and Related Intolerance." The NLG also helps to train and provide legal observers for political demonstrations. The NLG has supported Palestinian rights and a number of other causes. In November 2007, the NLG passed a resolution calling for the impeachment of then President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.[3]

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    Police officer in deadly LA shooting is being sued
    (AP) – 6 hours ago

    LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles police officer who shot and killed a Guatemalan immigrant authorities said was threatening people with a knife is being sued by a man claiming he was unlawfully shot by the officer in 2008.

    Joseph Wolf, who was 19 at the time, said in the lawsuit that Officer Frank Hernandez shot him in the leg then made up allegations to justify the shooting.

    In the lawsuit, which was first reported by the Los Angeles Times, Wolf says he was awakened by a helicopter circling overhead and went outside to investigate.

    The lawsuit says Hernandez shot him then claimed Wolf had been carrying a weapon.

    The city attorney's office declined to comment on the case, which is pending in federal court.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — After three nights of violent protests, calm mainly prevailed over a gritty neighborhood where police fatally shot an illegal immigrant from Guatemala who was menacing officers with a knife.

    About a hundred residents took to the streets for the fourth night in a row Thursday, but no violence erupted. Instead the crowd lit prayer candles in memory of Manuel Jaminez and dropped money in a collection box to help his family in Guatemala.

    Some jeered at passing patrol cars, but there was no hurling of eggs, bottles and rocks that was seen earlier in the week.

    For many in the poor immigrant community, the shooting of Jaminez was the last straw. Amid the poverty and chronic joblessness here, some residents say, officers mistreated them and were overly harsh in their enforcement of city ordinances.

    "They are messing with people all the time," said Juan Lorenzo, a day laborer who knew Jaminez.

    Lorenzo claimed that Officer Frank Hernandez, who the mayor hailed as a hero for shooting Jaminez, was disliked by many in the community because he would often ticket people for selling food on the street and would sometimes throw the food in the trash.

    It wasn't immediately clear whether residents complained about police behavior to the LAPD.

    Beyond complaints from several residents on Thursday about the police conduct, there were no easy answers to explain why the community reacted with such anger over the shooting.

    The neighborhood just west of downtown is home to immigrants from Guatemala and elsewhere in Central America, where police corruption and violence leaves residents in fear and mistrustful of authority.

    Chief Charlie Beck on Wednesday said a witness — a neighborhood resident who was not named — told three bicycle officers, including Hernandez, that a man with blood on his hands tried to stab her and a pregnant woman next to her.

    As the woman ran away, she heard the officers telling the suspect to drop the knife, then she heard three or four shots, turned around and saw Jaminez on the sidewalk, Beck said. Police said Jaminez raised the knife above his head and lunged at Hernandez.

    The 13-year veteran of the department shot Jaminez twice in the head, police said.

    The crowd of 300 people exploded when they heard Beck recount the witness's account. Someone called out that the story sounded like it was made up in Hollywood.

    Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa on Thursday defended Hernandez's actions, saying he was a hero and it was "outrageous" that angry residents called Beck a "murderer" at the community meeting.

    Beck and other officials say outside radical groups, including the Revolutionary Communist Party, are provoking the protests.

    Tomas Gomez, the brother-in-law of Jaminez, said his relative came from a tiny hamlet in the rugged mountainous region of western Guatemala, the province of Solola, where he was married and had three young sons, the oldest of whom is eight.

    Gomez said life was a struggle for Jaminez and his family, whose native language is Quiche, one of about 20 Mayan dialects spoken in Guatemala. He only spoke a little Spanish and no English.

    "They didn't have enough to eat," Gomez said.

    Gomez said Jaminez was not aggressive or violent. He had never seen him with a knife. He said he believes the police are inventing the story about the knife to justify killing him.

    "That's a falsehood by the police," he said.

    Associated Press Writer Christina Hoag in Los Angeles and Juan Carlos Llorca in Guatemala contributed to this report.

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    If there is a riot in L.A. and the media doesn't report it, did it really happen?

    LAPD Bans TV News Vans From Sixth Street Following Westlake Unrest

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    After three nights of violent protests, calm mainly prevailed over a gritty neighborhood
    Gitty neighborhood? Gritty neighborhood?

    Before the media always said they lived in "vibrant" and "diverse" neighborhoods, now all of a sudden it turned "gritty"?

    Oh I get it, if they live in a gritty neighborhood we can feel sorry for them and maybe understand that's why they are rioting, because they are oppresed and made to live in a "gritty" neighborhood, if they lived in a "vibrant" neighborhood we wouldn't be so understanding or sorry.

    Damn I hate these media propagandizers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowman

    After three nights of violent protests, calm mainly prevailed over a gritty neighborhood
    Gitty neighborhood? Gritty neighborhood?

    Before the media always said they lived in "vibrant" and "diverse" neighborhoods, now all of a sudden it turned "gritty"?

    Oh I get it, if they live in a gritty neighborhood we can feel sorry for them and maybe understand that's why they are rioting, because they are oppresed and made to live in a "gritty" neighborhood, if they lived in a "vibrant" neighborhood we wouldn't be so understanding or sorry.

    Damn I hate these media propagandizers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowman
    Damn I hate these media propagandizers.

    Imagine getting a degree in journalism and going off to work at a job in which you do nothing but cut-and-paste lies and anti-American propaganda while your hippie-progressive boss figures out how to replace you with a foreigner.

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