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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    And another thing…illegal invaders are a protected class in this city and these police officers know it. Hard to believe they would respond with deadly force unless it was justified.
    Exactly, after a bunch of LA officers were Shanghaied after then McArthur park riots, you can bet an officer won't respond unless their life is directly threatened.

    I am sure in this case the officers training kicked in, they practice these types of scenarios endlessly, what the officer did was an automatic response.
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    Im becoming very jaded. I have no pity for this 'victim." He basically asked for it. A crazy drunk can plunge a knife into someone as easily as a sober one.

    Something similar happened in my hometown of Vista, Ca a few years back. Illegals and gang members were running away, making like they had weapons and the cops fired on them. The illegals and hispanics in the town went nuts on the cops, there were town hall meetings and all the POS mayor could do was hang his head.

    This will continue to escalate. Between incidents like this and now the Koran burning, Im feeling like I can't get out of the city fast enough!!!!!!!! I can fight amnesty and illegals just as well in a safe place out in the country as a dangerous one in the city....
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    Re: illegal criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by geronimo
    These people have a long history of disruptive, violent behavior with absolutely no respect for our country or legal system. They are now even more emboldened by the marxist traitors in washington who seek through social engineering to destroy America by an amnesty program which will ensure a perpetuation of dimocratic power through a larger voting base which they have done for blacks who follow with a blind, unholy adherence to their marxist dogma, regardless of the consequences to America. I amazed and disgusted that radical organizations , like la racists are allowed to flourish and dictate policies in my country. We have kicked mexico's butt several times in past history with small expeditionary forces with little effort...time for a repeat performance.
    Welcome Geronimo.........You hit the nail on the head here.

    These illegals KNOW they broke the law getting here and feel themselves a protected class because the Hispanic politicians look the other way at their status, offer them more benefits than any other class and tell US americans they are good, hardworking family people and we should tolerate their lack of morals and pay them to support their children that we americans were taught years ago to not have unless you can afford to raise them.
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    Well, I don't know what the voter demographics are in Los Angeles but I suspect high in Hispanic population. So, whatever demographic base has the dominant voters is the way the wind will blow. Meaning, if the Hispanics in LA are say for example 65% of the registered voter base then that is who will ultimately control the city politics.

    So if that is the case then you will have a mayor who will appease that voter base to keep his/her job and anything is fair game in their book to do so. Thats on a local level. Now the same thing applies to state and federal politics the same way.

    So, don't be suprised if you hear that some of these police officers involved were sacrificed in the name of the voter base to appease them.
    "Where is our democracy if the federal government can break the laws written and enacted by our congress on behalf of the people?"

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    Well if this spreads it could be endgame

    Also the Koran burning is going to be uber fireworks

    Also the story of the guy on Long Island that pulled out a gun when threatened by a ton of latino gang bangers , the cops arrested him and not the gang bangers.

    Its coming , very soon now

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    Self-styled communists helped fuel Westlake clash with police

    September 8, 2010 | 11:00 am

    When the Los Angeles Police Department faced hundreds of protesters on the streets of the Westlake District, some were people drawn to the event from other parts of the city for political reasons.

    Twenty-two people were arrested Tuesday night after protesters clashed with police near a vigil for Manuel Jamines, a Guatamalan-born day laborer fatally shot Sunday by an officer who said Jamines refused to drop a knife.

    Among those arrested was Jubilee Shine, 40, a South Los Angeles activist who heads the Coalition for Community Control Over the Police. Shine said he was arrested on 6th Street near Bonnie Brae Street just before 10 p.m.

    He said he arrived in the area about 9:30 p.m. and was walking toward a crowd of demonstrators at the corner of 6th Street and Burlington Avenue when the crowd bolted toward him.

    “People just started to split,
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    [quote]Meanwhile, demonstrators from the neighborhood chanted, “Police are racists and killers!
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    Los Angeles is getting exactly what it deserves. As one of the largest sancturary cities it coddles illegals and that promotes lawlessness. The LAPD chief supported the anti-AZ SB-1070 enforcement. As it turnes out, the rank an file remained silent but they did not support the chiefs' philosopy. Mayor Villaraigosa is of the same mindset and has to take responsibility for the state of lawlessness that is taking place in the city. This is only going to explode into a major riot as pro-illegal activist become more powerful in both Los Angeles and Sacramento. They have plenty of support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giley1
    Los Angeles is getting exactly what it deserves. As one of the largest sancturary cities it coddles illegals and that promotes lawlessness. The LAPD chief supported the anti-AZ SB-1070 enforcement. As it turnes out, the rank an file remained silent but they did not support the chiefs' philosopy. Mayor Villaraigosa is of the same mindset and has to take responsibility for the state of lawlessness that is taking place in the city. This is only going to explode into a major riot as pro-illegal activist become more powerful in both Los Angeles and Sacramento. They have plenty of support.
    Ditto! Exactly right....
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    LA police move to quell more shooting protests

    By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer
    September 8, 2010 at 3:17 p.m.

    LOS ANGELES — Police mobilized Wednesday to avoid more mayhem on the streets after being taken by surprise at consecutive nights of violent protests sparked by the fatal shooting of a knife-wielding man.

    The police chief, city officials and consuls general from three Latin American countries scheduled a community meeting as senior officers tried to reach out to residents of the central Los Angeles neighborhood where the man was shot.

    Sunday's killing of Manuel Jamines, 37, has turned into a rallying point as community members, aided by outsiders, have taken to the streets for two nights running and used the death to highlight past injustices and vent ongoing frustrations.

    Police have defended the killing and said they've been taken aback by the level of protest for a case that seemed like a clear-cut case of justifiable use of force. Each year, the LAPD is involved in up to about 40 shootings - those that typically cause controversy involve unarmed or surrendered suspects.

    Residents outraged over the killing have said police should have handled the situation differently and say the surprise by department brass shows that the force is out of touch with the people.

    Three bicycle officers were flagged down Sunday by people concerned about a man wielding a knife. The officers approached the suspect and told him in Spanish and English to put down the weapon.

    Instead, Jamines raised the knife above his head and lunged at Officer Frank Hernandez, a 13-year veteran of the department, said Capt. Kris Pitcher, who heads the Los Angeles Police Department's force investigation division.

    Hernandez shot Jamines twice in the head. He died at the scene. Several witnesses later told police Jamines had been drinking.

    "They could have used pepper spray or a Taser gun," said Salvador Sanabria, executive director of nonprofit community group El Rescate. "The community ... reacted this way because they thought there was another way to deal with a drunk guy."

    Pitcher said Jamines was an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala. DNA tests were being carried out to determine whose blood was on the knife. Officers received unconfirmed reports he may have attacked someone before police arrived.

    The officers involved were placed on administrative leave, a standard move after shootings.

    An estimated 300 protesters who gathered outside the local police station pelted officers Tuesday night with eggs, rocks and bottles and set a trash bin on fire. Others dropped household items from apartment buildings.

    Officers fired at least two rounds of foam projectiles at demonstrators and 22 people were arrested, mainly for failure to disperse and unlawful assembly.

    A night earlier, three officers were slightly injured by thrown objects and four people were arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor inciting a riot.

    Police Chief Charlie Beck said he was surprised by the extent of the protests. Though he was withholding judgment on the case pending an investigation, he said the shooting seemed relatively non-controversial.

    "This was a tragic thing, I wish it would have worked out different," Beck said. "But the facts are very straightforward."

    Beck said the protests were the culmination of a variety of frustrations, including a terrible economy and a feeling of victimization among immigrants who say the U.S. population likes to blame them for many of society's shortcomings.

    "As you polarize society, this is the kind of thing that can push forward," the chief said.

    He also blamed activist groups, including the Revolutionary Communist Party, for co-opting peaceful vigils and inciting violent protests.

    Beck patrolled the area as a captain in the aftermath of the Rampart corruption scandal, in which an LAPD anti-gang unit was the focus of allegations that officers framed and beat innocent people. He said community outreach had improved considerably since then but acknowledged his department could do more.

    Sanabria said residents were already angry with the police over strict enforcement of public drinking laws and clampdowns on street vendors. The police department doesn't go after immigrants based on their legal immigration status, but Sanabria said officers still could be more sensitive.

    "They don't understand the complexity of the ethnic demographic population they have here," Sanabria said.

    He added that Jamines' first language apparently was a Mayan dialect, not Spanish, and said some police need to be trained in it.

    The LAPD is vastly different today from the organization it was 20 years ago, with much greater racial and gender diversity. All three officers involved in Sunday's incident were Latino and spoke Spanish, former police chief William Bratton noted.

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010 ... -protests/
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