Thread: LIVE Video Now: Senate Immigration Debate

Originally Posted by Newmexican

Now, we see DREAMERs talking conservative....Is this just a new ploy?

No, it's not a ploy, I think most DREAMERS or DACAS are more Republican than Democrat. They like jobs and business, low taxes, infrastructure, but it doesn't matter whether they're Democrat or Republican, what matters is that they are illegal aliens stealing jobs, educations and public benefits from Americans. It's about the numbers and the law, not their politics. If every single one of them announced in earnest that they are Republicans in their view, I would still want every single one of them out of our country.

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Colleague Mike Emanuel rpts GOP ldrs plan to whip conservative immigration plan tomorrow backed by Goodlatte
7:42 PM · Feb 13, 2018

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McConnell moves to proceed to immigration bill & have votes on sanctuary cities/Coons-McCain Dream/border amdt at 8 pm et. Durbin objects. Senate still not on the bill. Likely to move to proceed to the bill tomorrow morning

6:38 PM · Feb 13, 2018

Originally Posted by Newmexican

Now, we see DREAMERs talking conservative....Is this just a new ploy?

In my opinion it is a ploy. Some may lean conservative, however, read any of their sites, blogs, signs, watch and listen to their words. They have been raised expecting handouts, using free services and benefits , often through fraud. If we believe the studies and breakdown of their population only a small percent have higher education and they have not been vetted well. Younger illegal aliens associate in large part with socialist leaning groups, including within the church. They will not stop at a pathway to citizenship for themselves but demand it for parents and others. They do not support borders, deportation, less immigration, less refugee resettlement.

February 14, 2018

Watch Immigration Debate Live on CSPAN.

Senator Thom Tillis is speaking now. He says 10,000 people have died on our soil, about 1,000 were children, after crossing the border.

Tillis says there are 3.9 million in line to come through family reunification, Visa lottery is not ending it is being transferred to other visas.

African countries underrepresented in coming here.

Around one million come a year legally.

Chain Migration - Senator Tillis says 3/4 of immigration comes because of family. Now just random selection.

We could increase immigration from the over one million coming now.

Why would we want to increase immigration when we need to reduce it?? I don't think Thom Tillis's head is on right, there's something seriously wrong with him.

Judy, Senator Tillis has been adding this comment to all of his recent speeches that I have heard. He wants more immigration.

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Senate could determine there is no way to get to 60 on any immigration proposal & just vote on proposals later today/tomorrow. Or, Senate could be in late tomorrow if there is a path to 60 on something. Unclear if anything can score 60 yeas at this point

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On immigration debate, 60 yeas cuts both ways. Is operationally necessary to clear filibusters/shows a plan has the support to pass. But 60 yeas is also a way to kill things which have 51 yeas. Post Sandy Hook gun debate was like that. Multiple proposals w/51 yeas. But needed 60

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McConnell would like the Senate to move thru immigration debate this wk. Possible McConnell could lock amdt universe down, file cloture to end debate & require 60 yeas to move anything.

Originally Posted by Beezer

All these illegal aliens in our schools...shouldn't they have "Student Visa's" like every other non-citizen from a foreign country attending our schools?

They need to be terminated and not allowed to enter our schools without proper Visa's!

No special privileges for ILLEGAL ALIENS...deport them all!

Beezer, that is brilliant! HELL YES they need a student visa to attend our schools. That is the law. Another example of policy that is violating the 14th Amendment.

WE NEED TO PUSH IT ALIPAC, JUDY, EVERYBODY!

NO STUDENT VISA...NO SCHOOL!

FORCE THEM TO SELF DEPORT!

"OPERATION GET THE HELL OUT"

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

In my opinion it is a ploy. Some may lean conservative, however, read any of their sites, blogs, signs, watch and listen to their words. They have been raised expecting handouts, using free services and benefits , often through fraud. If we believe the studies and breakdown of their population only a small percent have higher education and they have not been vetted well. Younger illegal aliens associate in large part with socialist leaning groups, including within the church. They will not stop at a pathway to citizenship for themselves but demand it for parents and others. They do not support borders, deportation, less immigration, less refugee resettlement.

There's no doubt they seem to behave like DemoQuacks, they feel entitled when they aren't entitled at all and protest and run their big mouths that are always open (so ugly) making demands of others like DemoQuacks. My point is how they might vote in the future isn't why I oppose them, I oppose them because they're here and they aren't supposed to be here. They're stealing jobs, educations, burdening our schools, hospitals and social services, running up the debt, killing, raping, robbing, defrauding and breaking many other laws as well, actions that hurt and harm American citizens.