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    Now, Operation White Gun: Another ATF Weapons Op Under Scrutiny

    Now, Operation White Gun: Another ATF Weapons Op Under Scrutiny

    Operation White Gun targeted nine leaders of the Sinaloa cartel.



    Richard A. Serrano
    L.A. Times
    January 14, 2012

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    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.

    [...]

    “Apparently guns got away again,” said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). “How many got into Mexico, who knows?”

    Officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declined to comment on whether any firearms were lost in White Gun. But unlike Fast and Furious, they vigorously defended the previously unreported White Gun operation as a well-managed investigation that produced three arrests and convictions.

    The three men “were looking to acquire military-grade weapons for a drug cartel,” said an ATF official, who asked for anonymity because the case involves an undercover operation. “This was a classic example of bad guys showing up at a location to get the weapons they desire but getting arrested by law enforcement instead.”

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    Another ATF weapons operation comes under scrutiny

    Members of Congress want to see whether White Gun, like Fast and Furious, lost track of firearms that ended up with Mexican criminals.


    Dennis K. Burke, the former U.S. attorney in Phoenix, said convictions in the ATF's White Gun operation “put a stop to a well-financed criminal conspiracy to acquire massive destructive firepower.” (Matt York, Associated Press / March 4, 2011)

    By Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau January 12, 2012, 4:35 p.m.

    Reporting from Washington— In the late summer of 2010, the ATF agent leading the failed Fast and Furious gun-smuggling operation in Arizona flew to Mexico City to help coordinate cross-border investigations of U.S. weapons used by Mexican drug cartels.

    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.

    Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun was another weapons investigation gone wrong.

    "Apparently guns got away again," said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). "How many got into Mexico, who knows?"

    Officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declined to comment on whether any firearms were lost in White Gun. But unlike Fast and Furious, they vigorously defended the previously unreported White Gun operation as a well-managed investigation that produced three arrests and convictions.

    The three men "were looking to acquire military-grade weapons for a drug cartel," said an ATF official, who asked for anonymity because the case involves an undercover operation. "This was a classic example of bad guys showing up at a location to get the weapons they desire but getting arrested by law enforcement instead."

    In Fast and Furious, more than 1,700 firearms were lost after agents allowed illegal gun purchases in U.S. gun shops in hopes of tracking the weapons into Mexico. In White Gun, the ATF ran a traditional sting operation with undercover agents and confidential informants trying to snare suspects working for the Sinaloa drug cartel.

    According to internal ATF documents, including debriefing summaries and border task force overviews, White Gun and Fast and Furious both began in fall 2009, and the same ATF officials ran both cases.

    MacAllister was the lead agent. Her supervisor, David J. Voth, was head of the ATF's Group VII field office in Phoenix. His boss was William D. Newell, then the special agent in charge in Phoenix.

    According to documents that the ATF sent to the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces, an umbrella group of U.S. agencies that seeks to disrupt major drug trafficking and money laundering, White Gun targeted nine leaders of the Sinaloa cartel. The list included Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman, who heads the cartel and is Mexico's most wanted drug suspect.

    In ATF reports, MacAllister wrote that U.S. intelligence showed cartel members were setting up military-type training camps in the Sierra de Durango mountains, near Guzman's northern Mexico hide-out, and wanted to bolster their arsenal with grenade launchers and .50-caliber machine guns.

    The agents focused first on Vicente Fernando Guzman Patino, a cartel insider who was identified as one of their weapons purchasers and who often used code words and phrases, saying "57" for "OK," for instance.

    In fall 2009, the ATF team sent an undercover agent posing as an arms dealer to Guzman Patino. Photos of weapons, including a Dragon Fire 120-millimeter heavy mortar, were emailed to his "Superman6950" Hotmail account.

    According to the ATF documents, Guzman Patino told the undercover agent that "if he would bring them a tank, they would buy it." He boasted he had "$15 million to spend on firearms and not to worry about the money." He wanted "the biggest and most extravagant firearms available."

    The two met again outside a Phoenix restaurant, and the undercover agent showed Guzman Patino five weapons in the trunk of his vehicle, including a Bushmaster rifle and a Ramo .50 heavy machine gun. The undercover agent said he could get that kind of firepower for the Sinaloans.

    Just as Guzman Patino seemed ready to buy, according to the ATF records, the investigation into his activities abruptly ended. The documents do not explain why, and they don't indicate whether he obtained any weapons.

    A second case involved cartel members who were seeking shoulder-launched antiaircraft missiles and antitank rockets, according to the ATF records.

    The same undercover agent met the pair in February 2010 at a Phoenix warehouse. David Diaz-Sosa and Jorge DeJesus-Casteneda brought 11 pounds of crystal methamphetamine to trade for weapons. The undercover agent showed them shoulder-launched missiles, rocket launchers and grenades before ATF agents moved in and arrested them.

    Diaz-Sosa, 26, of Sinaloa, Mexico, pleaded guilty in April to gun and drug charges. DeJesus-Casteneda, 22, also of Sinaloa, pleaded guilty to drug charges. A third suspect, Emilia Palomino-Robles, 42, of Sonora, Mexico, pleaded guilty to delivering drugs as a partial payment for military-grade weaponry.

    None of the three was included on the list of nine cartel leaders who were targeted in the operation.

    The U.S. attorney in Phoenix at the time, Dennis K. Burke, who later resigned over Fast and Furious, called the White Gun convictions "a tremendous team effort that put a stop to a well-financed criminal conspiracy to acquire massive destructive firepower."

    By that summer, MacAllister had gone to Mexico City to check the police and military vaults. The ATF documents don't detail what she found, but they note she discovered "weapons in military custody related to her current investigations."

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    Groan..not again! Operation ‘White Gun’ another ATF foul-up?

    Dave Workman
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    January 13, 2012

    The Los Angeles Times is reporting that yet another gun trafficking sting operation mounted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives called “White Gun” possibly allowed guns to “get away” into Mexico.

    The Times notes that White Gun had been “previously unreported.” It appears to have been on a much smaller scale, and the newspaper says there were three arrests.

    Reportedly mounted at the same time as Operation Fast and Furious, the White Gun investigation is on the radar screen of congressional investigators who have been working on the Fast & Furious scandal. Some familiar names surface right up front, according to the L.A. Times:

    In the late summer of 2010, the ATF agent leading the failed Fast and Furious gun-smuggling operation in Arizona flew to Mexico City to help coordinate cross-border investigations of U.S. weapons used by Mexican drug cartels.

    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running…

    … MacAllister was the lead agent. Her supervisor, David J. Voth, was head of the ATF's Group VII field office in Phoenix. His boss was William D. Newell, then the special agent in charge in Phoenix.-Los Angeles Times

    Voth was the supervisor who sent the snide e-mail to field agents who balked about letting guns walk in Fast and Furious, suggesting they could get jobs elsewhere. Newell is the fellow who had problems testifying before Congressman Darrell Issa’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform last summer, as this column noted.

    Northwest gun activists are already buzzing about this new revelation.

    This comes at a bad moment for Attorney General Eric Holder, as it precedes his Feb. 2 scheduled appearance before the House Oversight committee, and at the same time that authorities are looking to release some of the documents relating to the December 2010 slaying of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in Arizona that ignited the Fast and Furious investigation. This column discussed that development yesterday.

    "Apparently guns got away again," said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). "How many got into Mexico, who knows?"—Los Angeles Times
    Look for much more discussion about the scandal over the next several days. The annual Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade (SHOT) Show opens Tuesday in Las Vegas. It’s the biggest firearms industry gathering in North America, if not the world. Gun manufacturers and dealers who were smeared with blame early on in the Obama administration for guns flowing into Mexico have been following this scandal for the past year; it broke wide open a couple of weeks after last year’s SHOT Show.

    This is an industry that observes, with no small amount of well-deserved sarcasm, that if it had been shown where gunmakers were responsible for Fast and Furious, or if this operation had happened under a Republican administration, it would have been front page news in every corner of the nation almost continuously for the past several months.

    But Fast and Furious is owned by the Obama administration, which has yet to fire anyone who was directly involved.

    We will be reporting from Las Vegas next week on any new developments.

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    ATF Death Watch 132: Operation White Gun Revealed

    Posted on January 13, 2012
    by Robert Farago




    On yesterday’s John Gibson radio show, a caller defended presidential candidate Ron Paul’s plan to eliminate the CIA. The caller repeated Paul’s claims that the CIA is helping drug smugglers ply their trade in the United States. The talk show host pressed the cuckoo clock sound effect and dropped the call. Yes, well, the facts speak for themselves: the CIA has a long and well-documented history of “enabling” drug trade to support our “friends” in Bolivia, Nicaragua, Afghanistan and, of course, Mexico . . .Even if the Company didn’t plan Operation Fast and Furious—the ATF program that channeled some 2000 U.S. gun store guns to Mexican drug thugs—the CIA certainly knew about it. The CIA was also in the loop on Operation Wide Receiver: the ATF op that exported an unknown number of U.S. gun store guns to Honduras. Why wouldn’t the CIA be situationally aware? That’s their job.This website has always maintained that the American gun running programs were designed to arm the Sinaloa cartel against Los Zetas. Uncle Sam supported the former against the latter to prevent Los Zetas from assuming control of the country, either by the ballot box or the imposition of a military junta.As part of this grand strategy, the DEA laundered tens of millions of dollars for the Sinaloas (sometimes by wire, sometimes by trailer truck). Immigrations and Customs Enforcement let cash go south and drugs come north. The FBI allowed Sinaloa surrogates to bypass their NICS check system to buy guns illegally; in some cases, providing the cash to do so.The ATF supplied the guns. Not all the guns. Mexico is awash with firearms, grenades, grenade launchers and ammunition that somehow “leaked” to the cartels via officially sanctioned sales to the Mexican (and other Latin American) military and law enforcement organizations. The cartels are also armed with weapons imported from China and Eastern Europe. But the ATF did their part to keep the Sinaloas sweet.Yesterday, the latimes.com revealed yet another ATF guns for goons program: Operation White Gun.
    According to internal ATF documents, including debriefing summaries and border task force overviews, White Gun and Fast and Furious both began in fall 2009, and the same ATF officials ran both cases.
    MacAllister was the lead agent. Her supervisor, David J. Voth, was head of the ATF’s Group VII field office in Phoenix. His boss was William D. Newell, then the special agent in charge in Phoenix . . .

    According to documents that the ATF sent to the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces, an umbrella group of U.S. agencies that seeks to disrupt major drug trafficking and money laundering, White Gun targeted nine leaders of the Sinaloa cartel. The list included Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman, who heads the cartel and is Mexico’s most wanted drug suspect.
    In ATF reports, MacAllister wrote that U.S. intelligence showed cartel members were setting up military-type training camps in the Sierra de Durango mountains, near Guzman’s northern Mexico hide-out, and wanted to bolster their arsenal with grenade launchers and .50-caliber machine guns.
    The agents focused first on Vicente Fernando Guzman Patino, a cartel insider who was identified as one of their weapons purchasers and who often used code words and phrases, saying “57″ for “OK,” for instance.

    In fall 2009, the ATF team sent an undercover agent posing as an arms dealer to Guzman Patino. Photos of weapons, including a Dragon Fire 120-millimeter heavy mortar, were emailed to his “Superman6950″ Hotmail account.

    According to the ATF documents, Guzman Patino told the undercover agent that “if he would bring them a tank, they would buy it.” He boasted he had “$15 million to spend on firearms and not to worry about the money.” He wanted “the biggest and most extravagant firearms available.”

    The two met again outside a Phoenix restaurant, and the undercover agent showed Guzman Patino five weapons in the trunk of his vehicle, including a Bushmaster rifle and a Ramo .50 heavy machine gun [above]. The undercover agent said he could get that kind of firepower for the Sinaloans.
    Just as Guzman Patino seemed ready to buy, according to the ATF records, the investigation into his activities abruptly ended. The documents do not explain why, and they don’t indicate whether he obtained any weapons.

    When Fast and Furious first came to light—via the death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry at the hands of drug thugs using ATF-enabled weapons—the Bureau claimed they launched F&F to link U.S. gun store guns to the Mexican cartels. They were trying to catch the “big fish.” They “lost” the guns purchased with their blessing.The “botched sting” defense was a ludicrous idea (the ATF never followed the guns); immediately adopted by an all-too-credulous press. The new information about ATF Operation White Gun establishes the fact that the ATF was already in contact with the Sinaloa cartel’s “big fish.”And did . . . nothing?

    If we’ve said it once we’ve said it a dozen times: follow the guns. How many? Why type? Where are they? If Patino received firearms from the ATF and wasn’t arrested by the ATF on weapons charges, what does that tell you? Was Operation White Gun another AFT f’up or part of a larger conspiracy to provide logistical support to the Sinaloas in accordance with unofficial (i.e. CIA) policy? Or both?

    Senator Grassley and Representative Issa are on the case. Expect more fireworks from their respective committees, even as the U.S. Presidential race heads to its denouement. Meanwhile, the Obama administration is set to throw all the ATF agents involved with Fast and Furious under the proverbial bus.

    The big question: which one of them will turn against their taskmasters and what will they say? Someone will crack. It’s only a matter of time.

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    WAS OPERATION “WHITE GUN” ANOTHER FAILED ATF GUN STING?

    If the ATF doesn’t know if guns landed in the hands of drug cartel members then “Yes” Operation White Gun was a failure despite producing “three arrests and convictions”. If these investigative failures happened during any other administration, the mainstream media would be having a hissy fit over the deaths and lack of tracking of these military-grade guns.

    (LOS ANGELES TIMES) – Reporting from Washington— In the late summer of 2010, the ATF agent leading the failed Fast and Furious gun-smuggling operation in Arizona flew to Mexico City to help coordinate cross-border investigations of U.S. weapons used by Mexican drug cartels.

    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.

    Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun was another weapons investigation gone wrong.

    “Apparently guns got away again,” said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). “How many got into Mexico, who knows?”

    Officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declined to comment on whether any firearms were lost in White Gun. But unlike Fast and Furious, they vigorously defended the previously unreported White Gun operation as a well-managed investigation that produced three arrests and convictions.

    The three men “were looking to acquire military-grade weapons for a drug cartel,” said an ATF official, who asked for anonymity because the case involves an undercover operation. “This was a classic example of bad guys showing up at a location to get the weapons they desire but getting arrested by law enforcement instead.”

    Quote via: The Los Angeles Times.

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    Another ATF Gunwalking Operation " White Gun "

    A new operation similar to "Fast and Furious" was revealed by the LA Times, after the publishing of a series of reports by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), detailing a gun-walking operation called "White Gun ".

    the documents specify that the operation began in 2009 at the same time than "Fast and Furious" and both were coordinated by ATF agents.

    This new case, indicates that in 2010, the agent.Hope A. MacAllister, involved in "Fast and Furious", traveled to Mexico City seeking access to retrieve evidence of the U.S. weapons that had been siezed by federal authorities in crime scenes. However, the officer was also interested in retrieving guns linked to operation "White Gun" .

    Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun was another weapons investigation gone wrong.

    "Apparently guns got away again," said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa).

    How many ended up in Mexico? Nobody knows, the source said.

    Although the ATF records do not specify what it was that the agent MacAllister found in Mexico, it does say that "found weapons in military custody were linked to their research."
    Also, the newspaper reported that those involved in "White Gun" were the same that coordinated "Fast and Furious",

    The reports also stated that "White Gun" was aimed at the nine leaders of the Sinaloa cartel, including Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.

    In one of the documents-to which the newspaper had access, MacAllister said according to intelligence reports that the Sinaloa cartel held a training camp in the Sierra de Durango, near the suspected hideout of El Chapo Guzman Loera, and that his criminal group sought to strengthen its arsenal with grenade launchers and .50-caliber machine guns.

    To carry out these actions, a member of that cartel identified as Vicente Fernando Guzman Patino, who contacted undercover agents from the ATF with the intent to buy weapons, to whom he said had $ 15 million only to spend in weapons and not worry about money because they wanted the bigger guns and the most extravagant.

    In fall 2009, the ATF team sent an undercover agent posing as an arms dealer to Guzman Patino. Photos of weapons, including a Dragon Fire 120-millimeter heavy mortar, were emailed to his "Superman6950" Hotmail account.

    According to the ATF documents, Guzman Patino told the undercover agent that "if he would bring them a tank, they would buy it.

    After the meeting, an agent and Patino Guzman met again outside a restaurant in Phoenix, where the alleged seller showed the criminal five weapons in the trunk of your vehicle, including a Bushmaster rifle and a Ramo .50 heavy machine gun

    The undercover agent said he could get that kind of firepower for the Sinaloans.

    Just as Guzman Patino seemed ready to buy, according to the ATF records, the investigation into his activities abruptly ended. The documents do not explain why, and they don't indicate whether he obtained any weapons.

    A second case involved cartel members who were seeking shoulder-launched antiaircraft missiles and antitank rockets, according to the ATF records.

    The same undercover agent met the pair in February 2010 at a Phoenix warehouse. David Diaz-Sosa and Jorge DeJesus-Casteneda brought 11 pounds of crystal methamphetamine to trade for weapons. The undercover agent showed them shoulder-launched missiles, rocket launchers and grenades before ATF agents moved in and arrested them.

    Diaz-Sosa, 26, of Sinaloa, Mexico, pleaded guilty in April to gun and drug charges. DeJesus-Casteneda, 22, also of Sinaloa, pleaded guilty to drug charges. A third suspect, Emilia Palomino-Robles, 42, of Sonora, Mexico, pleaded guilty to delivering drugs as a partial payment for military-grade weaponry.

    ATF agent Hope McAllister, a leader in the Operation Fast and Furious disaster, reportedly spent some time in Mexico during the summer of 2010 looking for White Gun weapons among the ordnance seized from cartel killers by the Mexican government. That behavior is not consistent with a tightly-controlled sting operation run by people who know exactly where all the contraband merchandise went. “Sooooo… you guys wouldn’t happen to have seized any of the guns on this list, would you? No? Oh, well, just thought I’d ask amigo, Gracias !”

    “How many guns got into Mexico? Who knows?” I’ll bet the answer to that question, at least initially, will not be answered by Eric Holder.

    EXTRA NOTES !!!

    On December 14, 2010, United States Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in a gun fight near Rio Rico, Arizona while trying to apprehend a group of armed suspects.Records reveal that agents fired the first shots - with bean bags rounds !!! and the illegal immigrants fired back - not with bean bags - but real bullets from an AK-47 machine gun assault rifle provided by the ATF.

    Two weapons found at the crime scene were traced to a Glendale, Arizona gun store that had cooperated with ATF officials in "Fast and Furious."
    As of July 2011, the family of Brian Terry is considering filing a wrongful death lawsuit against the United States Government over the operation.

    On February 15, 2011, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata was shot to death by Mexican drug cartel members in northern Mexico. Federal investigators traced the gun used to kill Zapata to a Dallas-area man,[9] but there have still been reports connecting the shooting to the Phoenix-based Operation Fast and Furious. [10]

    According to the Los Angeles Times, federal court records and trace documents from the ATF show that in April 2011, 40 of the weapons from the operation were found by Mexican police at a home owned by Torres Marrufo in Ciudad Juárez. Marrufo is thought to be the top enforcer for the Sinaloa cartel, which U.S. intelligence officials consider to be the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world. ( 2ND PICTURE BELOW)

    ATF field agents monitoring the U.S.-Mexico border had intended to apprehend gun smugglers attempting to cross over into Mexico with large
    numbers of guns, but were told by their superiors to stand down and let the smugglers pass.[8]

    A gun used by drug cartel criminals to shoot at a Mexican military helicopter, forcing it to land, was found to have been one allowed into Mexico by the ATF.[11]

    Two AK-47s sold as part of Operation Fast and Furious and recovered by Mexican police were determined to have been used by members of the Sinaloa cartel in the high-profile kidnapping of attorney Mario González Rodríguez.[12]

    In September 2011, the New York Post reported that ATF Special Agent John Dodson had carried out orders to purchase four Draco pistols, which Dodson then resold to known criminals. Dodson had done this under the orders of his supervisor, David Voth.[15]

    In October 2011, documents were released that indicated Holder was sent memos in regards to Operation Fast and Furious in 2010, contradicting Holder's sworn testimony before the House Judiciary Committee in which he said he was unaware of Operation Fast and Furious until April 2011. In response, Lamar Smith, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to President Obama, requesting the appointment of an independent special counsel to investigate whether Holder committed perjury by lying to the committee while under oath.

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    Descubren operativo similar a ‘Rápido y Furioso’, denominado ‘White Gun’

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    Un nuevo operativo similar a “Rápido y Furioso” fue revelado por el diario LA Times, tras publicar que una serie de reportes de la Oficina para el Control de Armas en EU (ATF), detallan una operación de tráfico vigilado de armas denominado “White Gun”.

    En los documentos se especifica que el operativo comenzó en 2009 junto con “Rápido y Furioso” y ambos eran coordinados por agentes de la ATF.

    Sobre este nuevo caso, se indica que en 2010 la agente Hope. A. MacAllister, involucrada en “Rápido y Furioso”, viajó a la ciudad de México buscando acceso a las armas estadounidenses que habían sido recuperadas por las autoridades federales en cateos y escenas de crímenes. Sin embargo, la oficial estaba interesada en cotejar las armas para la operación “White Gun”, en la que también participaba.

    Al respecto, LA Times contactó a una fuente cercana a la investigación que realizan congresistas estadounidenses, y que es encabezada por el republicano Darrell Issa y el senador Charles E. Grassley.
    “Aparentemente hubo armas que se escaparon de nuevo. ¿Cuántas terminaron en México? Nadie sabe”, señaló la fuente.

    Aunque en los expedientes de la ATF no se especifica qué fue lo que la agente MacAllister encontró en México, sí señala que “halló armas en custodia de militares que estaban ligadas a su investigación”.

    Asimismo, el diario publicó que los involucrados en “White Gun” eran los mismos que coordinaban “Rápido y Furioso”, siendo Hope MacAllister la agente líder del operativo.

    Tenía como objetivo el cártel de Sinaloa

    En los informes se destaca también que “White Gun” tenía como objetivo a nueve líderes del cártel de Sinaloa, incluyendo a Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán.

    En uno de los documentos -a los que el diario tuvo acceso- MacAllister mencionó que de acuerdo con reportes de inteligencia se descubrió que el cártel de Sinaloa montaba un campo de entrenamiento en la Sierra de Durango, cerca del presunto escondite de Guzmán Loera, y que el grupo criminal pretendía fortalecer su arsenal con lanzagranadas y ametralladoras calibre .50.

    Para llevar a cabo estas acciones, un miembro de ese cártel identificado como Vicente Fernando Guzmán Patiño, contactó a agentes encubiertos de la ATF con la intención de comprarles armas, a quienes les señaló que contaba con $15 millones para gastar en arsenal y que no se preocuparan por el dinero, pues quería las armas más grandes y extravagantes.

    Después de dicho encuentro, un agente y Guzmán Patiño se reunieron de nuevo frente a un restaurante de Phoenix, donde el supuesto vendedor le mostró al criminal cinco armas en el maletero de su vehículo, incluyendo un rifle Bushmaster y una pistola .50

    Sin embargo, tras dicha reunión, en la que el delincuente parecía estar listo para comprar, los informes ya no mencionan a Guzmán Patiño, y se desconoce si logró adquirir alguna de las armas.
    Además de ese acercamiento, hay casos documentados de “White Gun” en los que se muestran a representantes del cártel de Sinaloa reunidos con agentes encubiertos, y con interés en comprar armas tan poderosas como lanza misiles y lanza cohetes.

    Luego de esta filtración, los congresistas encabezados por Issa y Grassley dicen tener sospechas de que en ese esquema de tráfico vigilado varias armas pudieron haber terminado cruzando la frontera con México y en manos del crimen organizado.

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    White Gun: Another DOJ gun-walking operation surfaces
    Written By: Bob - Jan• 13•12

    Months ago Sharyl Attkisson warned us that there were as many as ten gun-walking operations being run out of the Department of Justice in five states. It now seems that the same cast of suspects that perpetrated Operation Fast and Furious may have been concurrently running another gun-walking operation out of Phoenix, this one code-named White Gun.
    In the late summer of 2010, the ATF agent leading the failed Fast and Furious gun-smuggling operation in Arizona flew to Mexico City to help coordinate cross-border investigations of U.S. weapons used by Mexican drug cartels.

    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.

    Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun was another weapons investigation gone wrong.

    “Apparently guns got away again,” said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). “How many got into Mexico, who knows?”
    White Gun appears to have been run much more competently than Operation Fast and Furious, and seems much more analogous with Operation Wide Receiver, in that these were sting operations that involved cooperation with the Mexican government and resulted in arrests, even though flaws in the case may have allowed some weapons to get lost.

    That White Gun and Wide Receiver are apparently so similar throws Fast and Furious into sharp relief.

    White Gun and Wide Receiver shows us that the DOJ had established policies and procedures in place to run gun smuggling interdiction operations with at least some degree of success in conjunction with Mexican authorities.

    Why then, would the Holder Justice Department engage in Fast and Furious, a much larger operation that actively discouraged the interdiction of weapons, and purposefully kept Mexican officials in the dark? They only logical conclusion to draw is that Operation Fast and Furious existed for the express intention of putting U.S.-traceable firearms into the hands of the Sinaloa cartel.

    Why they would do that is something I hope we get to discover in an independent prosecutor’s criminal investigation.


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    “White Gun”…Another ATF Gun Trafficking Operation Is Exposed

    January 13, 2012 · 12:59 PM



    These operations were paid for by the Obama stimulus.
    Obama claims to know nothing about the scheme, yet he knew before Holder knew.
    Attorney General Eric Holder claims to have no knowledge about the gun trafficking scheme, yet he bragged about it back in April of 2009.
    Now we have Operation White Gun, another ATF gun trafficking scheme that allowed US firearms to be illegally purchased and trafficked to Mexican drug cartels.
    From the LA Times:
    In the late summer of 2010, the ATF agent leading the failed Fast and Furious gun-smuggling operation in Arizona flew to Mexico City to help coordinate cross-border investigations of U.S. weapons used by Mexican drug cartels.
    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.
    Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun was another weapons investigation gone wrong.
    “Apparently guns got away again,” said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). “How many got into Mexico, who knows?”
    Officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declined to comment on whether any firearms were lost in White Gun. But unlike Fast and Furious, they vigorously defended the previously unreported White Gun operation as a well-managed investigation that produced three arrests and convictions.
    The three men “were looking to acquire military-grade weapons for a drug cartel,” said an ATF official, who asked for anonymity because the case involves an undercover operation. “This was a classic example of bad guys showing up at a location to get the weapons they desire but getting arrested by law enforcement instead.”
    In Fast and Furious, more than 1,700 firearms were lost after agents allowed illegal gun purchases in U.S. gun shops in hopes of tracking the weapons into Mexico. In White Gun, the ATF ran a traditional sting operation with undercover agents and confidential informants trying to snare suspects working for the Sinaloa drug cartel.
    According to internal ATF documents, including debriefing summaries and border task force overviews, White Gun and Fast and Furious both began in fall 2009, and the same ATF officials ran both cases.
    MacAllister was the lead agent. Her supervisor, David J. Voth, was head of the ATF’s Group VII field office in Phoenix. His boss was William D. Newell, then the special agent in charge in Phoenix.
    According to documents that the ATF sent to the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces, an umbrella group of U.S. agencies that seeks to disrupt major drug trafficking and money laundering, White Gun targeted nine leaders of the Sinaloa cartel. The list included Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman, who heads the cartel and is Mexico’s most wanted drug suspect.
    All these gun trafficking schemes were to be used as a “crisis” so the Obama regime could push for more gun control laws. This is a worse scandal than WaterGate. WaterGate never killed anyone, yet the media isn’t really investigating these crimes being committed by Obama administration. Obama, Holder, Napolitano and Clinton all have used the bogus “90% of guns used in Mexico’s violence is from the US” claim.



    Just another manufactured “crisis” from Team Obama.

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    White Gun — Another ATF weapons operation comes under scrutiny.

    Filed under Sniper's Hide News by jasonk

    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.

    Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun was another weapons investigation gone wrong.

    “Apparently guns got away again,” said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). “How many got into Mexico, who knows?”

    Read the rest of Richard A. Serrano’s article at the L.A. Times.

    http://www.snipershide.com/2012/01/w...nder-scrutiny/
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