Thread: Romney picks Paul Ryan as VP running mate

Ok, well, NOW they will hit back against Obama. If Romney gets in, it will be 24/7 NON-STOP ENDLESS ACTIVISM to get him to budge on border/illegal issues. Are we ready? Actually, the DAY after, he needs to get SLAMMED about illegals, it is the ONLY WAY if possible to get him to move on it. There are enough people who can do this, we need to join together in this monumental battle. They need to hear us LOUD AND CLEAR!!

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

So HOW DO YOU GET THEM TO LEAVE WHEN THEIR VISA EXPIRES?
They just get in their car and drive away from the place they work and blend into the current immigrant population and never go home.

They don't even have to work one day at the job they signed up for the visa for.
The visa lets them cross the border and they drive anyplace in the country they want to go, just like today's illegal aliens do. We already know that once they get here you can't get rid of them unless you send armed agents to their home or job, put them in hand cuffs, wait months for them to go before a judge and hope the judge will order them deported.

We need a better visa exit program. We keep getting promised that something is in the works (who really knows though).

It is my understanding that legal immigrat workers (visa holders) for farm labor are bused in because they don't hold legal driver's licenses. They are accountable to the farmer who hires them and it is his (farmer) responsibility to house and care for them. Also, it is the farmers responsibility to report anyone that goes on the lamb.


I believe mandatory E-Verify, the very thing Romney is pushing for, will go along way to alleviate a lot of your concerns. If they can't find work elsewhere, they'll be very reluctant to screw their chance for further seasonal work. Additionally, I believe Romney will do a lot more to enforce our immigration laws than Obama has.

Originally Posted by MW

. . . it is the farmers responsibility to report anyone that goes on the lamb . . .

There's the problem.
So the farmer reports them AWOL.
No one knows where they have gone.
They could be anyplace in the country.
Who finds them?
How do you make them leave?

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Paul Ryan on Immigration

Rated 0% by FAIR, indicating a voting record loosening immigration. (Dec 2003) (Info on other issues @)Paul Ryan on the Issues

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No surprises there ..

Originally Posted by HAPPY2BME

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No surprises there ..

Well there goes that. That's all the research I need on this Ryan person. So Romney and Ryan are both stooges for the businesses who'd rather employ foreigners than raise the wages of American workers. Combined with Romney's perplexing response to illegal immigration these past couple of months, has the GOP completely lost it???

For those who actually support Romney on the need for more VISAs for, say, foreign farm labor, are you actually saying you have faith that the GOVERNMENT will not screw this up and let them wonder around and stay put in this country? Where did this blind faith in government come from all of a sudden. Is Romney somehow going to restore the competency of big government???

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> Rep. Paul Ryan > Immigration-Reduction Report Card

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Immigration-Reduction Report Card

Immigration-Reduction Report Card
Rep. Paul Ryan

Representative, Republican
Wisconsin, District 1 (Oak Creek, Kenosha, Janesville)
Served in House: 1999-

Recent 2009–2012 C+
This Congress 2011–2012 B-
Career 1999–2012 C

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2009–2012C+How Was This Grade Calculated

Overall Grade History
1999
2012

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Paul Ryan's Grade Broken Down By Subject

Reduce Chain Migration
minimal action

Reduce Visa Lottery
minimal action

Reduce Unnecessary Worker Visas
minimal action

Reduce Refugee and Asylum Fraud
minimal action

Challenge Status Quo
D+How Was This Grade Calculated

Reduce Illegal Jobs & Presence
A+How Was This Grade Calculated

Reduce Illegal Immigration at Borders
A-How Was This Grade Calculated

Reduce Amnesty Enticements
D+How Was This Grade Calculated

Reduce Illegal Immigration Rewards
minimal action

Reduce Anchor Baby Citizenship
failed to act

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"Failed To Act" means that the Member did not challenge the Status Quo policies that in total are adding 900,000 new permanent foreign workers a year, are allowing 7 million illegal aliens to keep their jobs, and are forcing around 2.5 million more people a year onto the overloaded physical, natural and social infrastructures of our communities.

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Just for the record, I'm still not voting for Romney or Obama. I've one friend that has enlarged upoin that. He now says that if it says Rep or Dem beside their name for any office he's voting for himself. Makes sense, if you are disillusioed or angry at both parties, why vote for any of their candidates.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

There's the problem.
So the farmer reports them AWOL.
No one knows where they have gone.
They could be anyplace in the country.
Who finds them?
How do you make them leave?

Somehow you make the farmers legally responsible. They lose one then the farmer looses his right to bring anymore into the country. I would like to then put the farmer in jail, but I don't think it would fly.

Conservatives know who Paul Ryan is. So do all the liberal progressives in Washington.

Originally Posted by florgal

Conservatives know who Paul Ryan is. So do all the liberal progressives in Washington.

I wonder if they know that he voted for TARP back in 08, according to this post:

http://www.alipac.us/f12/5-things-mi...l-ryan-262364/

And the fact that he scores low on illegal immigration and supports foreign labor, as if American workers are not up to the task.