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    S.F. suspect not alone in dodging deportation

    S.F. suspect not alone in dodging deportation

    Kevin Fagan
    Wednesday, March 28, 2012

    Kestutis Zadvydas was the opposite of what most people would envision as an ideal immigrant to the United States. He was a convicted thief and cocaine dealer, and U.S. officials ordered him deported in 1994 to his native Germany.

    But Zadvydas was never sent home.

    Neither were, by some counts, thousands of other convicted criminals marked for deportation to their countries of origin in the past decade - including Binh Thai Luc, 35, who is accused in last week's slayings of five people in a San Francisco row house.

    The potential deportees were all held in prison for up to six months, then set free under a 2001 U.S. Supreme Court ruling barring immigrants from being locked up indefinitely while awaiting deportation. The trouble in all these instances was that their home countries would not take them back.

    2006 order

    In Luc's case, it was Vietnam in 2006. He'd just finished serving eight years in state prison for robbing a Chinese restaurant and trying to rob a car electronics store in San Jose, but after a federal judge ordered him kicked out of the country, his homeland refused to issue travel documents.

    Six years later, he sits in San Francisco County Jail charged with five counts of murder with special circumstances. The victims - a couple in their 60s, their grown children and their son's girlfriend - were bludgeoned and attacked with an unspecified sharp weapon, police said.

    Outrage over the freeing of a man now accused of slaughtering a house full of people reached back to Washington, D.C., where Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is trying to pass a bill to peel back the 2001 mandate.

    "Just because a criminal immigrant cannot be returned to their home country does not mean they should be freed into our communities," said Smith, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. "Dangerous immigrants need to be detained."

    San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee said Tuesday that he thought Luc should not have been allowed back in the Bay Area after Vietnam rejected him. He called on immigration authorities to think of "alternatives" to letting convicted felons in similar circumstances return to the area where they committed crimes.

    Awaiting vote

    Smith's bill, awaiting a vote in the full House, would supersede the Supreme Court ruling and allow immigrants with criminal records whose home countries won't take them to be held indefinitely by Homeland Security.

    Detainees would be reassessed every six months for release and able to fight for freedom through the courts.

    The Supreme Court ruling that Smith's bill would replace is called Zadvydas vs. Davis. In it, the justices held that Zadvydas' convictions were no justification for incarcerating him indefinitely after Germany, Lithuania and his wife's homeland, the Dominican Republic, refused to take him.

    A complicating factor for Zadvydas was that he was stateless. He was born in a camp in U.S.-controlled Germany three years after the end of World War II, and when he came to New York as a child it was as a refugee. He was never more than a permanent legal resident here, and when his immigration troubles erupted, Germany decided he had never been a citizen.

    He was first convicted of attempted robbery at age 17. By the time officials tried to deport him in 1977, he had racked up drug offenses and thefts. The government's efforts continued as he was convicted of more crimes, until the 2001 Supreme Court ruling.

    Long list of crimes

    The Zadvydas decision pertained specifically to immigrants here legally, but a 2005 Supreme Court ruling expanded protections to illegal immigrants as well.

    A long list of convictions can trigger deportation efforts by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, including murder and robbery, said spokeswoman Virginia Kice.

    A spokesman for the Vietnamese Embassy in Washington, D.C., said Tuesday that he didn't know why his country had refused to accept Luc, who immigration officials say has legal residency in the United States.

    "We do not make those decisions," said spokesman Hung Tran. "The police administration in Hanoi in Vietnam determines if the person to be received is eligible or in good condition to be received. Generally, we will receive any person who has finished his term of prison in the United States."

    In the past two years, about 8,000 immigrants ordered for deportation were freed from custody in the United States because their own countries would not take them, according to Rep. Smith's office.

    'Unconstitutional'

    Immigrant advocates said allowing the government to imprison people indefinitely after they've already paid for their offenses is wrong.

    "The idea of trying to foresee who will commit crimes and lock them up before they commit them is unconstitutional," said Julia Harumi Mass, staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union of Northern California.

    "If a person can't be removed from the United States but has served his or her criminal sentence, we should not create some kind of preventative detention program that tries to speculate about the risk this person may pose," Mass said. "That's just not the kind of country we want to live in."

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    SF Mass Murder Suspect Dodged Deportation

    Vietnam refused to take Binh Thai Luc back in 2006

    By Rob Quinn, Newser Staff
    Posted Mar 27, 2012 2:48 AM CDT |Updated Mar 27, 2012 3:04 AM CDT

    (Newser) – The man accused of the brutal murder of five people in San Francisco was only in America because his native Vietnam refused to take him back, the San Francisco Chronicle finds. After Binh Thai Luc served nearly a decade in prison for the 1996 robbery of a Chinese restaurant in San Jose, he was ordered deported in 2006. But Vietnam refused to provide travel documents, and he was released in the US under the terms of a 2001 Supreme Court ruling.

    The controversial ruling states that undocumented immigrants must be released within six months if their country of origin won't take them back. Luc, 35, continued to report to federal immigration authorities after his release, according to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman. "Unfortunately, there are some countries that are very difficult to remove people to, and Vietnam is one of those countries," he says. "We had to follow the ruling."

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