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    Schwarzenegger Vetoes Driver's License Bill

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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday vetoed a bill that would have allowed illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, saying the state should wait for federal regulations designed to combat terrorism.

    Schwarzenegger said his administration was working with federal officials to develop the federal guidelines for the REAL ID Act of 2001, and to get money to help the state pay to comply with them.

    The bill's author, Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, said his legislation complies with the federal law, although he acknowledged it goes beyond what federal law requires.

    His bill would provide for security measures and a special mark showing that the license is held by an illegal immigrant.

    A 1993 law bars the state from issuing licenses to drivers who cannot prove they are in the country legally.
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    2 Questions:

    1. did he grow a set?
    or
    2. does he know something that we don't coming out of Washington??? so that he can bide his time and play both sides?
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    Whew! Thank God! Hey Legal... here's your good news of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis
    2 Questions:

    1. did he grow a set?
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    2. does he know something that we don't coming out of Washington??? so that he can bide his time and play both sides?
    He's vetoed it every time One Bill Gil has rammed it through.
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    I think it is the second one. He is playing games right now... but there are not more options.. Angelides is worse but at this point, the Governator is acting like a democrat in some issues. Californians are unsure of what is going on in Sacramento, especially if the state asembly is mostly democrat.

    I heard on KABC that he was going to veto this one but there is one more bill sitting on his desk (the one to give free tuition to illegal students, the so called "california dream act") Thats why we have to keep calling to Sacramento to prevent this other one to be passed

    Check it out:

    http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/articlefile ... %20Act.doc
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    Thanks Nadys for the reminder. I'm calling the Governator's office in the morning:

    (916) 445-2841
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    (213) 897-0322 to leave a voice message

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    His bill would provide for security measures and a special mark showing that the license is held by an illegal immigrant.
    Now that just doesn't make one bit of sense. If you can mark a license as being held by an illegal immigrant, you can certainly deport the holder when he or she applies for the license! Why would anyone even consider knowingly issuing a license to an criminal law breaker? It's one thing when an illegal uses false documentation to fool the issuing office, but it is all together something different to openly issue a license to someone whom has confessed to being an illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    His bill would provide for security measures and a special mark showing that the license is held by an illegal immigrant.
    Now that just doesn't make one bit of sense. If you can mark a license as being held by an illegal immigrant, you can certainly deport the holder when he or she applies for the license! Why would anyone even consider knowingly issuing a license to an criminal law breaker? It's one thing when an illegal uses false documentation to fool the issuing office, but it is all together something different to openly issue a license to someone whom has confessed to being an illegal.
    Just goes to show you how being illegally here doesn't matter to some. Insane situation isn't it?
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    http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanlui ... 633562.htm

    Posted on Fri, Sep. 29, 2006

    Schwarzenegger vetoes driver's licenses for illegal immigrants

    DON THOMPSON
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    SACRAMENTO - For the second time in two years, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday vetoed a bill that would have allowed illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses.

    The governor said the state should wait for federal regulations designed to combat terrorism. The federal government first needs to draft guidelines for the REAL ID Act passed after the 2001 terrorist attacks before California takes action related to its main identification cards, he said.

    The bill's author, Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, said his legislation complies with the federal law, although he acknowledged it goes beyond what federal law requires. His bill, SB1162, provides for security measures and a special mark showing that the license is held by an illegal immigrant.

    Schwarzenegger said his administration is working with federal officials to develop the U.S. regulations and get money to pay for complying with the federal law.

    "Until the REAL ID Act is implemented and the federal government adopts comprehensive immigration reform, it is inappropriate to move forward with state law in this area," Schwarzenegger said in his veto message.

    A 1993 law bars the state from issuing licenses to drivers who cannot prove they are in the country legally.

    This was lawmakers' eighth attempt at legalizing driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. Former Gov. Gray Davis signed one of Cedillo's bills in 2003, but it was repealed by lawmakers after voters recalled Davis and Schwarzenegger was elected to replace him.

    Cedillo promised to push the legislation again next year.

    "I am disappointed he has decided to put forth his personal agenda rather than doing what is right for the people of California," Cedillo said in a telephone interview.

    Schwarzenegger is racing to beat a Saturday deadline to act on legislation sent to him before lawmakers adjourned last month. He has signed 590 bills and vetoed 69, and has 503 bills remaining on his desk.

    Among other vetoes Thursday:

    _ A bill by Sen. Gloria Romero, D-Los Angeles, that would have prohibited prison officials from basing housing assignments on race or ethnicity. The governor said in his veto message that SB814 isn't needed because the state already is complying with a lawsuit settlement and a February U.S. Supreme Court ruling that state prisons cannot segregate inmates solely by race.

    _ A bill by Sen. Nell Soto, D-Pomona, that would have allowed the Department of Health Services to give greater weight to health effects in setting drinking water standards. Schwarzenegger said the measure, SB187, "ignores the necessity to consider economic and technological feasibility" when adopting those standards.

    _ Legislation by Sen. Jack Scott, D-Pasadena, that would have required health insurance plans to cover hearing aids for children. Schwarzenegger contended SB1223 could add to health care costs.

    _ A bill by Assemblyman John Laird, D-Santa Cruz, that would have phased in tougher water-saving standards for new toilets. Schwarzenegger said the lower-flush toilets required by AB2496 needed more study.

    Among bills he approved:

    _ Schwarzenegger signed school legislation including SB1209, which provides $22 million to streamline the state's teacher credentialing process. He also signed SB1655 to stop schools from being forced to accept voluntary teacher transfers so the least qualified teachers are not concentrated in low-performing schools. Both bills were authored by Sen. Jack Scott, D-Altadena.

    _ He signed six bills and an executive order relating to the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta. The executive order and SB1574 by Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, create a cabinet-level committee and an independent task force to develop a management plan and examine risks to the delta ranging from climate change to earthquakes and changing land uses. The related delta bills include AB797, AB798, AB1245, AB1881 and AB2515.

    _ He signed two bills sought by gay-rights interests, including AB2800, which bans housing discrimination, and AB1160, which limits the use of the so-called "gay panic defense" in murder cases. The second bill restricts a defendant from arguing that the murder was committed in a rage after the discovery that the victim was gay or transgender. He rejected a third bill, AB606, that aimed at discouraging harassment of homosexuals in schools.

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    One more source.

    http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/31264.html

    Driver's license bill vetoed by governor
    Sen. Gil Cedillo vows to try again, but some say plan would encourage illegal immigration.

    By Jim Sanders and Judy Lin - Bee Capitol Bureau
    Published 12:00 am PDT Friday, September 29, 2006
    Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed legislation Thursday to allow illegal immigrants to obtain California driver's licenses, marking the eighth consecutive year such proposals have died.

    Senate Bill 1162 was a far weaker proposal than had been pushed in years past, recognizing the string of defeats and bitter political friction over the issue in an election year.

    The veto marked one of dozens of actions taken Thursday by Schwarzenegger, who is racing to meet a deadline of midnight Saturday to sign or veto about 500 bills remaining on his desk.

    Two high-profile bills signed by the Republican governor, Senate Bills 1655 and 1209, are aimed at attracting better teachers to low-performing schools and reducing obstacles to recruiting and hiring out-of-state instructors.

    Schwarzenegger killed two measures designed to fight gay discrimination, vetoes announced three weeks after he rejected controversial legislation to ban schools from "reflecting adversely" against gays in textbooks, teaching or school activities.

    The governor, in his veto message on the driver's license bill, said the measure is premature because the federal government has not yet completed regulations for its Real ID Act.

    The Real ID Act, sparked partly by the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, is an attempt to create a national standard for driver's licenses.

    "Until the Real ID Act is implemented and the federal government adopts comprehensive immigration reform, it is inappropriate to move forward with state law in this area," Schwarzenegger's veto message said.

    State Sen. Gil Cedillo, a Los Angeles Democrat who crafted SB 1162, vowed to try again next year. "The governor failed to demonstrate leadership by doing what was right," Cedillo said. "He chose instead to respond to his political base of extremists and zealots."

    SB 1162 would have gone into effect only after the state received federal funding to implement the Real ID Act.

    Cedillo's measure would have provided two new classes of driver's licenses for people not currently eligible:

    • Motorists with a pending application for legal residency could have qualified for a traditional, but temporary, driver's license.

    • Illegal immigrants with no immediate hopes of legalizing their status could have obtained a "driving only" license with a distinguishing color or mark.

    Supporters argued that licensing the estimated 2 million illegal immigrants who drive in California would make roads safer.

    But Barbara Coe, president of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, said the bill would have encouraged illegal immigration.

    "Why should we give criminals a government document?" she asked.

    Schwarzenegger conducted a signing ceremony Thursday morning for the two teacher- related bills.

    SB 1655 targets a situation in which low-performing schools are forced by union contract to accept subpar teachers from other campuses.

    Schwarzenegger called the problem a "dance of the lemons" in which failing teachers transfer from desirable campuses to avoid the threat of sanction by their former principals.

    SB 1655 changes California law by:

    • Allowing principals in the state's lowest-performing schools to reject the voluntary transfer of any teacher.

    • Altering hiring deadlines, so that principals can hire promising new teachers much sooner than they typically do now.

    Under SB 1655, priority would not be given after April 15 to veteran teachers seeking a voluntary transfer.

    In districts where SB 1655 conflicts with a union contract, the measure will take effect once the existing pact expires.

    Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O'Connell applauded SB 1655 for providing a "greater opportunity for our principals to secure the teacher they need."

    But the California Teachers Association and the California Federation of Teachers, among others, opposed the bill by Sen. Jack Scott, D-Altadena.

    Sandra Jackson, CTA spokeswoman, said the bill unfairly makes scapegoats of teachers.

    Officials should look at numerous other issues -- including class sizes, principal support and facility quality -- that can affect student progress, Jackson said.

    The other teacher bill, SB 1209, would simplify the process for qualifying and hiring out-of-state teachers and would provide a $6,000 annual stipend for veterans to teach and serve as staff mentors in low-performing schools.

    Schwarzenegger also:

    • Vetoed Assembly Bill 606, to require adoption by the state of an anti-discrimination policy for schools.

    • Vetoed Assembly Bill 1056, to allocate $250,000 for a pilot program promoting tolerance in schools.

    • Vetoed Assembly Bill 2496, to require new toilets to reduce water usage.

    Schwarzenegger signed an executive order to develop a management program for the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta.

    He gave thumbs up to related legislation, Senate Bill 1574, to create a Cabinet-level committee to develop a blueprint for sustaining the Delta.

    Besides water supply, SB 1574 calls for the committee to tackle long-range efforts to maintain wildlife and protect against floods.

    About the writer:
    The Bee's Jim Sanders can be reached at (916) 326-5538 or jsanders@sacbee.com.
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