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    Senate Republicans eye new strategy in immigration fight

    Senate Republicans eye new strategy in immigration fight



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    By Alexander Bolton - 02/22/15 06:00 AM EST


    Senate Republican leaders are plotting a new strategy that they hope will allow them to prevent a shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) next week.


    They are considering a plan in which they would split off legislation attacking President Obama’s executive action on immigration from funding for DHS, according to a Senate GOP aide familiar with the discussions.


    Senate GOP leaders are also looking at dropping any effort to overturn Obama’s 2012 executive action, which set up the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Polls suggest this program is more popular because it helps illegal immigrants who came to the country as children.


    Republicans think they can win over Democratic votes if they seek to overturn only Obama’s 2014 executive action, which even some centrist Democrats have criticized.


    Still, it remains unclear whether conservative Republicans would go along with splitting the immigration issue from homeland security funding.
    “There’s another angle we’re going to try to approach on it,” said a Senate Republican aide. “The goal is to bring up the issue of executive amnesty and have a determination of just that issue.

    “We would try to have a vote on just that issue,” the aide added. “Does it have to be addressed as part of DHS, or can it be addressed separately? If we can get to that issue and have a vote on that issue, then you come back to DHS appropriations.


    “That’s the issue some of the Democrats have a problem with the administration as well as the Republicans. But when you throw in all the other issues, Dreamers and all the other things that came over from the House, you don’t have as much Democratic support,” the source said.


    House Republicans will not have a chance to react to the plan until they return to town from a weeklong recess.


    In the meantime, the Senate is scheduled to vote Monday for a fourth time on a House-passed homeland security funding bill that would reverse Obama’s 2014 and 2012 executive orders.


    Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), said the bill could be amended if Democrats allow it to reach the floor for debate.


    “Any changes to the House bill require that we get on it. You can’t amend the bill unless you get on it,” he said.


    But Democrats have shown no such intention. They have blocked the bill three times without suffering a single defection, and are unified in demanding a “clean” homeland security funding bill without controversial policy riders.


    Some Senate Republicans think they would have a better chance of getting the 60 votes they need by focusing narrowly on the executive action from November.


    In recent months, six Senate Democrats questioned the wisdom of Obama taking unilateral action to protect the relatives of citizens and permanent residents from deportation.


    The Democrats skeptical of the move were Sens. Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Al Franken (Minn.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.) and Mark Warner (Va.).


    Sen. Angus King (Maine), an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, said in November he had “constitutional concerns about where prosecutorial discretion ends and unconstitutional executive authority begins.”


    One Senate Republican aide said the decision by House leaders to include repeal of DACA in the funding bill made it easy for Democrats to block it from coming up for debate.


    “Shutdowns are the Republican Party’s kryptonite. How do we win that? There’s no way we win that argument, ever,” said the aide. “The big strategic blunder was the House putting DACA in there.”


    Some centrist Republicans in the House balked at the provision repealing DACA, as 26 of them voted against it.


    Another Senate Republican aide said McConnell would not need a bill that originates in the House — as spending bills must — to repeal Obama’s executive action protecting as many as 5 million illegal immigrants from deportation.


    But it could take him more than a week to get the bill up for a vote on the Senate floor, forcing both chambers to pass a short-term continuing resolution to avoid a DHS shutdown.


    If the bill’s not on the calendar, they would have to write it and introduce it, then they have to go through the Rule 14 process and take three days to get bill onto the calendar. Then once on the calendar, they would move to proceed and file cloture,” said the aide. “It will push you into next week if it’s not already on the calendar.”


    Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) earlier this month appeared to dismiss the prospect of a stopgap funding measure for DHS, telling reporters, “I’m gonna start laughing,” when asked about the prospect of one.


    A stopgap looks increasingly likely, as Democrats are sure to filibuster the House bill once again, and time is fast running out. Without congressional action, homeland security funding will lapse on Feb. 27, creating a partial shutdown where thousands of employees are forced to work without pay.


    Senate leaders have vowed they will not allow a shutdown.

    “We’re not going to shut down,” Senate Republican Whip John Cornyn (Texas) said before Congress left for the Presidents’ Day recess. “You can take my word for it.”

    Republican and Democratic strategists say the GOP would bear the brunt of the blame if homeland security funding expired because of a fight over immigration.


    “History says that Republicans get the blame for any government shutdown whether for the Department of Homeland Security or the entire government,” said Patrick Davis, a former National Republican Senatorial Committee official.


    “It could have an impact going into the next election,” he added.

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    “History says that Republicans get the blame for any government shutdown whether for the Department of Homeland Security or the entire government,” said Patrick Davis, a former National Republican Senatorial Committee official.

    “It could have an impact going into the next election,” he added.
    Well, I'm glad Davis is a "former" NRSC official, since he's not in tune or in touch now. Republicans who deter from the plan now on the table waiting for Democrats to stop Obama Amnesty and fund DHS without money or authorization for Obama Amnesty, will not do well going into the next election. They will be deemed as toxic as the Republican Governors who signed up to defend Obama Amnesty in a lawsuit. Their careers as Republican politicians will be over. And, rightly so, because Republican politicians who won't help US solve this problem, won't help US solve any problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Senate leaders have vowed they will not allow a shutdown. “We’re not going to shut down,” Senate Republican Whip John Cornyn (Texas) said before Congress left for the Presidents’ Day recess. “You can take my word for it.”

    Republican and Democratic strategists say the GOP would bear the brunt of the blame if homeland security funding expired because of a fight over immigration.


    John, patriots feel your pain. Why, the last time that Republicans were blamed for a government shutdown, the voters punished them by giving the majorities in both houses of congress.

    Let's be honest, John. You want to give your big money donors the surplus labor that those donors covet. And you're hoping that Americans can be fooled by you and the mass media. You're both ignoring patriots' calls for protecting Americans jobs and the quality of American life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vistalad View Post
    John, patriots feel your pain. Why, the last time that Republicans were blamed for a government shutdown, the voters punished them by giving the majorities in both houses of congress.

    Let's be honest, John. You want to give your big money donors the surplus labor that those donors covet. And you're hoping that Americans can be fooled by you and the mass media. You're both ignoring patriots' calls for protecting Americans jobs and the quality of American life.
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    McConnell: Strip immigration issue from Homeland budget bill

    Posted 12:42 p.m. today
    Updated 12:45 p.m. today






    By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press

    WASHINGTON — The Senate's top Republican said Tuesday he was shifting tactics as legislation to keep the Department of Homeland Security from a partial shutdown remained stalled in Congress just days from a Friday midnight deadline.


    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., moved to disentangle one of two contested immigration measures from the Homeland Security budget and debate the issues separately.


    Late Monday, McConnell took procedural steps to take up stand-alone legislation to reverse President Barack Obama's November orders to allow millions of immigrants in the country illegally to live and work in the U.S. McConnell would leave in place a 2012 directive that allows immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children to remain in the country.


    "As long as Democrats continue to prevent us from even debating that bill, I'm ready to try another way," McConnell said Tuesday.


    But he again ran into opposition from Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who demanded the Homeland Security budget pass first before any immigration debates.


    "We're eager to debate immigration now or any other time," Reid said. "But... we can't do that until we fully fund the Department of Homeland Security. We've been saying that for four weeks."


    Tuesday's developments did little to clear up the impasse over immigration that is threatening to partially shut down the Homeland Security Department within days. There's growing sentiment among Senate Republicans — especially in the wake of last week's decision by a federal judge to halt Obama's most recent moves on immigrations — to move beyond the impasse.


    A key vote could come Friday on the stand-alone immigration measure, which would likely push the Homeland Security budget past a midnight deadline, though speculation was growing that a short-term budget measure might prevent a shutdown.


    McConnell's move appeared aimed at pressuring Senate Democrats who have opposed the legislation because the immigration language is included. It also would allow Republicans who oppose Obama's executive actions on immigration to register their opposition with a stand-alone vote on a separate measure.


    "Let me vote on a clean Homeland Security and I've told the Democrats, they know exactly where I stand. I think the president overreached and I will be voting with the Republicans to repeal the president's actions," Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., said in an interview on "Fox and Friends."


    But McConnell left unclear how he would get the department's funding bill passed ahead of Friday's midnight deadline to fund the department or see it shut down.


    "This proposal doesn't bring us any closer to actually funding DHS, and Republicans still have no real plan to achieve that goal," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. "It's a disgrace that ISIS and al-Shabab are fully funded, but thanks to Republican game-playing, the Department of Homeland Security might not be."


    ISIS is one acronym for the Islamic State militant group that has taken over much of Iraq and Syria. Over the weekend, a video purported to be released by Somalia's al-Qaida-linked rebel group al-Shabab urged Muslims to attack shopping malls in Western countries.


    After last week's federal court ruling putting Obama's immigration programs on hold, a growing number of Senate Republicans argued for letting the immigration fight play out in court, and passing a "clean" bill to fund Homeland Security, free of the language on immigration.


    House conservatives, by contrast, said the court developments only strengthened their resolve to use the Homeland Security budget to fight Obama on immigration. They remained adamantly opposed to a funding bill that doesn't include language blocking Obama on immigration, and also said they would not support a short-term extension of current funding levels.


    A partial Homeland Security shutdown would result in some 30,000 administrative and other workers getting furloughed. Some 200,000 others would fall into essential categories and stay on the job at agencies like the Border Patrol, Secret Service and Transportation Security Administration, though mostly without drawing a paycheck until the situation is resolved.
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    Associated Press writers Andrew Taylor and Charles Babington contributed to this report


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    Mitch, stop. Just stop. Americans care far more about stopping illegal immigration, the number one security threat to the United States, than whether or not DHS workers who have let over 20 million illegal aliens into the country, get their checks on time.

    Turn your attention to something else we care about, pass the FairTax bill, S 155 in the United States Senate.
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