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    Quote Originally Posted by artclam View Post
    It's quite common for companies seeking to hire H-1B employees to specify the job requirements in a way that are hard or impossible for anyone else to meet. The government doesn't check that the job requirements are legitimate just that Americans can't be found who meet them. Often advanced degrees are required for positions where that knowledge isn't used. Specifying a large amount of experience using a particular skill or product is often used to weed out Americans. I've even seen ads requiring more years experience with a product than the product has been available. An applicant has to lie to meet these requirements. If a non H1B applicant claims that experience the company will challenge it but not when an H1B applicant claims it.
    Then the solution is very simple. Before the US Department of Labor can rule on an application for H1B visas, there has to be a public notice of visa application published in the newspaper and a press release distributed to all local media, and every employee of the company at the location or locations where the H1B applicants would be placed providing full notice and transparency of the entire application the employer filed with the US Department of Labor, including all letters, emails, attachments, data, representations and so forth regarding the application.

    In addition, there would need to be a fact-gathering hearing following the note for all employees, potential American employees who have applied for work with this company within the past 10 years, media and public officials to meet with the US Department of Labor in the respective locations concerning the application before the US Department of Labor could rule on the application. All files of the US Department of Labor would of course be subject to public scrutiny by media, employees, potential employees and all other "stakeholders" as would all files of the company pertaining to the application as previously suggested.

    Also, all employees who would provide input, data, comments or statements that differ with the company's application would be protected by statute from any repercussions and the company would be subject to harsh penalties, fines and exclusion from the visa program for 50 years if they retaliate or attempt to retaliate against employees providing conflicting testimony at the hearing.

    Finally, in the event of conflicting testimony, the US Department of Labor and US Department of Justice would be required to immediately undertake an investigation to verify which testimony is accurate and if the company is proved beyond a reasonable doubt to have provided a false application, every company employee involved would be subject to immigration fraud charges and prosecuted for same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artclam View Post
    Specifying a large amount of experience using a particular skill or product is often used to weed out Americans. I've even seen ads requiring more years experience with a product than the product has been available. An applicant has to lie to meet these requirements. If a non H1B applicant claims that experience the company will challenge it but not when an H1B applicant claims it.
    Thanks for that info. I wondered how this con was being run.
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    Here are links to two employers specifically seeking H1B applicants that turned up among others on a quick search of monster.com. You will find ads like this all over the IT jobs websites. http://job-openings.monster.com/mons...9cecf?mescoid= http://job-openings.monster.com/monster/eda06568-bc8e-4f34-8c17-6d8c2c100094?mescoid= Employers prefer H1B employees because they are less likely to quit. If they quit they risk losing their legal status.
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    So it's like a modern day version of indentured servitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    But less noticed was how the event signaled that Clinton, who portrays herself as a fighter for American workers, had aligned herself with Indian American business leaders and Indian companies feared by the labor movement.

    Well, she's no more disgusting than 'Bama is. Let's hope that we can shine a bright light on her contempt for American workers - and by extension, American families. How are we going to foster stable families, if parents' jobs are outsourced, or if, as with Southern California Edison, Americans are being forced to train their Indian replacements before the Americans are being fired?

    So much for foreigners having skills that Americans don't have. What the Indians have is American politicians who will gladly sell out American workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    So it's like a modern day version of indentured servitude.
    Interesting you should note that. The open borders folks make that point also. Of course, their solution is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artclam View Post
    Interesting you should note that. The open borders folks make that point also. Of course, their solution is different.
    Yes their solution is different because they're on the take with the cartels, and so blinded by their pay-offs they forget that the 13th Amendment of the US Constitution that banned slavery, also banned indentured servitude, so any government policy that fosters anything akin to it is unconstitutional and therefore banned, which means that most of our visa programs are in effect illegal because they violate the 13th Amendment and are thus in practice, unconstitutional.

    We need an immediate 10 year moratorium on all new immigration including all visas that relate to living and working in the US, all green cards and asylums. This mess of illegal immigration is just part of the problem we're dealing with. The "legal" immigration is just as bad and both need to be stopped until the illegals are removed, the present visas holders terms expire and they return to their home countries, Americans are all back to work, and poverty levels are down to less than 5%.
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