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    Quote Originally Posted by moptop
    These guys probally aren't the killers I don't see how 2 people can drive 3 boats . . .
    They didn't say there were only 2 guys,
    they said they think they know who 2 of the people are,
    meaning that other people involved are as of yet unidentified.
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    Border Patrol Sends Extra Boats to Falcon Lake

    Reported by: Erica Proffer

    ZAPATA - A dozen Border Patrol boats, including some from the Valley are now in Zapata. They will be used to patrol and protect Falcon Lake.

    The increase comes after the disappearance and presumed murder of David Hartley.

    Both the Mexican and American governments are still searching for his body.

    People who live along Falcon Lake say the increased security helps. Still, they'd like to see even more.

    "I think they can do a lot better and bring more troops so that we can have the homeland security. We need more law enforcement around the border," says Leo Cuellar.

    No word on how long the boats will stay in Zapata. A Border Patrol spokesperson declined to comment saying details of their role at Falcon Lake must remain top secret.

    http://www.krgv.com/content/news/story/ ... uqGEw.cspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    Quote Originally Posted by moptop
    These guys probally aren't the killers I don't see how 2 people can drive 3 boats . . .
    They didn't say there were only 2 guys,
    they said they think they know who 2 of the people are,
    meaning that other people involved are as of yet unidentified.
    they are guessing the two names might be involved because by realeasing names it might make the pressure from the american side of the border ease up a little bit.
    i still say the body and the jet ski will never be found

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    Pirate Attacks Cripple Business

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    Last Update: 6:41 pm

    CHANNEL 5 NEWS (KRGV, 2010) ZAPATA -It's not the catch they want.

    National attention on alleged pirate attacks is hurting some Zapata businesses, which rely on fishermen.

    "It is supposed to be one of the best months for us," said Sarah Boodoosingh, manager of the Sunbridge Inn & Suites.

    Hotel workers say they depend on this time of the year to boost business. It's great weather to grab the next big catch.

    This year business is slow. Fishermen are pulling out of tournaments. It's costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in tourism money.

    "We have had lots of cancellations, and yes I think people are concerned about what has happened," said Boodoosingh.

    She is talking about the reported pirate attacks on Falcon Lake.

    Two major tournaments usually held in Zapata moved locations this year.

    "People react to what they hear, once things are of no longer concern, it will come back to some sort of normalcy," said Boodoosingh.

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    New Blood Evidence Found in Lake Pirate Attack

    Sheriff Reports Blood on Tiffany Hartley's Life Vest Supports Her Account of Attack on Falcon Lake

    The search continues for the body of David Hartley, the Texas man believed to be murdered on his jet ski on the U.S.-Mexican border. Don Teague reports.

    (CBS) Zapata County's sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez has told CBS News he has blood evidence from the lifevest of Tiffany Hartley, the wife of David Hartley, that supports her account of a pirate attack on a lake that straddles the Texas-Mexico border.

    CBS News correspondent Don Teague reported on "The Early Show" this evidence is in addition to witness testimony that supports Tiffany Hartley's story that her husband was shot in the head by pirates on Mexico side of Falcon Lake.

    David Hartley is presumed dead, and officials on both the U.S. and Mexican sides of the lake are searching for his body.

    Gonzalez told Teague he believes the Hartleys were attacked by enforcers of the Zeta drug cartel. The Hartleys, Gonzalez says, were innocent victims of a bloody drug war.

    Escorted by heavily armed federal agents, CBS News took a boat ride to the border with Gonzales Thursday.

    Gonzalez said, "There are problems along the border. Whether you admit it or not there are problems and it's spillover violence."

    The sheriff's objectives were to show that the American side of Falcon Lake is safe, and to deliver a message to the drug cartel that controls the water, and land beyond the border.

    Gonzalez said, "What I've told them is, 'I need a body. Give me a body, guys, and everything will go away. Give a body guys and the news media will go away.'"

    Gonzales fears the same cartel enforcers who killed David have permanently hidden his body.

    He said, "The body has been disposed of. They have it somewhere they've gotten rid of the body so there's no evidence."

    But that's not something Tiffany Hartley is ready to accept, and says she's only now beginning to grieve.

    Tiffany Hartley said, "At certain times there's points where you do feel like this is it. I'm never gonna see him again. He's gone. And then at other points he's gonna be walking through that door."

    Doubt has been cast on Tiffany Hartley's story by Mexico officials, but she told CNN recently she would take a lie detector test if people continue to doubt her account of the attack.

    Teague added on "The Early Show" that search for David Hartley's body in cartel-controlled waters is so dangerous for Mexican authorities, they had to briefly suspend searching for a time on Wednesday. He added, the good news, there has been no report of any actual violence against searchers and the search was back on Thursday and expected to begin again Friday.

    On "The Early Show" Congressman Ted Poe, (R-Texas), who has been involved extensively in this case as well as ongoing border issues, said he has requested from the State Department that Americans search the Mexican side.

    He said, "The Mexican government said yes, then backed off and said, 'No, we don't want the Americans over here.' We need to use the American resources that we have, because that area of the lake is controlled by the Zetas, there is an island on that lake where the Zetas really operate, the drug cartels. If we mean business about trying to recover David Hartley's body we need American involvement and the Mexican government needs to be relentless to find it. They are intimidated now, they really won't go near the area where the Zetas operate."

    "Early Show" co-anchor Harry Smith said, "We need to stop and pause a second because even the Mexican authorities themselves are clearly not in control. It's the drug cartel that is in control because…the Mexican authorities backed away when they were threatened."

    Poe agreed, saying, "That area of Falcon Lake on the Mexican side, all the way to the American edge of the water is controlled by the Zeta cartels. They bring those drugs into the United States, usually at night by high-speed boats, and they operate -- that is their operation -- and the Mexican government hasn't been able to stop them, won't stop them, refuses to or cannot, whatever the situation is, and they control that area. The government, neither government, controls that area, the drug cartels. And we're being held really hostage by the drug cartels on that area of the lake."

    Smith added that while there has been some doubt cast on Tiffany Hartley's story, this is not the only reported incident of violence on this lake.

    Poe replied, "American fishermen, fishing both on the American side of the lake and on the Mexican side of the lake -- you can get a permit to do that -- have been robbed by pirates on the lake, some of them have been taken to the Mexican side, stripped of all of their clothing and their valuables and their boat and left stranded there. This is the fifth time since May there's been some type of violence -- but the first homicide."

    Poe said he'd like to see the United States to have more involvement in the search.

    "The United States needs to use our resources, the Coast Guard. That needs to be operating on the lake at all times, not just this time," he said. "We have been very lax, in my opinion, as a nation, of protecting the entire southern border of the United States, including Falcon Lake. We don't protect it. We wait for something to happen, and then we just sit back, as a nation, and wait for someone else to react. We need to cooperate, need better cooperation with the Mexican government, but need to have really the military presence on the southern border, and that includes putting the National Guard throughout the border, including the Air National Guard, if we are serious about protecting Americans and American property, and keeping the drug cartels out of the United States."

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/ ... 8718.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesw62
    it is me, or does anyone else find it interesting that two days after saying they were starting an investigation, two suspects were named.
    More interesting to me is that after trying to blame the wife first, the story has changed dramatically and all of a sudden there are suspects...I guess more people got very interested in this you know what they say a sqeaky wheel gets the grease..........that is my opinion of course....


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    Police investigations take time. It isn't unusual for an investigation to start out slow and then pick up when pressure is applied for more results. It isn't unusual for differt suspect to come up and be eliminated, that's the investigation part of it. Mexico will arrest these 2 sooner or later, or kill them in a gun battle. Either way they get what they have coming.
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    Zapata Co. Sheriff: Hartley May Not Be Found

    Last Update: 9:00 am

    ZAPATA - David Hartley was shot 12 days ago, and there is still no sign of his body. Tiffany Hartley says Mexican pirates shot her husband in the head while they were jetskiing on Flacon Lake. That was september 30th. Since then, searchers have combed the US and Mexican sides of the lake.

    Zapata County Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez, Jr. tells CHANNEL 5 NEWS the attackers may have already gotten rid of the body. Tiffany Hartley says the growing national media attention in the case is putting pressure on Mexican authorities to do more. She told CNN's Anderson Cooper that progress is being made in the case. In the interview, Tiffany pleaded with anyone with information in the case to come forward.

    US and Mexican authorities are conducting separate searches for David's body.

    http://www.krgv.com/news/local/story/Za ... qbAgQ.cspx
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    I am going to say something that may offend some but I feel it needs to be said....

    This poor mans body will never be found and if it is it will be a miracle.
    Has anyone seen how these mexican cartel members dispose of bodies???
    Cutting off body parts including head, hands,feet,etc. They are barbaric and don't care about human life, especially an American's life.

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    As sad as that is,"JET SKI GIRL" went back for her husband, and barely escaped these violent thugs, and thank you Jesus she made it! We love you "JET SKI GIRL" You are America.
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