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    Trump wants to avoid government shutdown, will find other ways to fund border fence

    White House says it wants to avoid government shutdown, will find other ways to fund border wall


    White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders speaks to the media at the White House. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

    By Erica Werner , Damian Paletta and John Wagner
    December 18 at 12:05 PM


    President Trump on Tuesday retreated from his demand that Congress give him $5 billion to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, backing down amid acrimonious GOP infighting that left him with few options four days ahead of a partial government shutdown.


    The news, delivered by White House press secretary Sarah Sanders in an interview on Fox News, represented a major shift from Trump’s declaration last week that he would be “proud” to shut down the government to get the money he wanted for his border wall.


    Democrats, who will reclaim the majority in the House just weeks from now, have consistently refused to give Trump anywhere near the $5 billion he wants.


    But Sanders told Fox News Channel: “We have other ways that we can get to that $5 billion.”


    “At the end of the day we don’t want to shut down the government, we want to shut down the border,” Sanders said.


    Sanders said the White House was exploring other funding sources and believed it could be legally done.


    “There are certainly a number of different funding sources that we’ve identified that we can use, that we can couple with money that would be given through congressional appropriations that would help us get to that $5 billion that the president needs in order to protect our border,” she said.

    The apparent White house capitulation does not guarantee that a shutdown will be averted. Democrats were just beginning to assess the implications of Sanders’ comments to see if the White House is now willing to sign onto a budget deal they they could embrace.


    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Sen. Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) are meeting Tuesday at midday. Asked whether there was a deal to be had as she entered the meeting, Pelosi responded “we’ll see.”


    Funding for the Homeland Security Department, Justice, Interior, Agriculture and other agencies -- comprising a quarter of the federal government -- runs out Friday at midnight absent action by Congress and Trump. The funding is all hung up over Trump’s demands for the wall and Democrats and Republicans have been in a stand-off over how to resolve the dispute.


    Sanders’ comments come after a series of miscalculations by the White House and Republicans in recent days over how to try and get Democrats to sign onto $5 billion to pay for the construction of Trump’s long-promised wall along the Mexico border.


    While meeting with Schumer and Pelosi last week, Trump said he would be “proud” to shut down the government over the issue, a statement that congressional Republicans openly said muddied their messaging that Democrats should be blamed for a shutdown.


    Schumer and Pelosi, the likely incoming House speaker, have made clear to the White House they would not support giving the White House $5 billion to build a wall, and Democrats have largely closed ranks around them.


    Republicans didn’t have a way to proceed because they lacked 60 votes in the Senate to proceed to a vote on a spending bill.


    House and Senate Republicans have been in talks with the White House in recent days looking at other ways to try and secure funding, outside of the traditional appropriations process. They have looked at redirecting already approved money, among other things, according to a person briefed on the talks who requested anonymity to discuss deliberations.


    Trump has threatened to shut down the entire border if Democrats don’t agree to give him the $5 billion, a threat that didn’t appear to force capitulation.

    Then on Monday evening, Senate Appropriations Chairman Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) said he was anticipating a proposal from the White House, perhaps at 5 p.m., that never materialized. But the White House never promised a 5 p.m. proposal, and then Senate Republicans signaled they planned to move ahead on an overhaul of the criminal justice system this week, giving them very little time to negotiate a budget bill.

    Meanwhile, the stock market has fallen precipitously in recent weeks, creating economic angst over Trump’s agenda. Trump has attacked the Federal Reserve, among others, for the stock market’s tumble, but it has rattled him, according to people who have spoken with him both inside and outside the White House.


    The people spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose the internal White House sentiment.


    “We’ll continue to have these conversations with both Senate and House Republicans and Democrats. Our team has been in constant communication,” Sanders said. “We’re going to continue to do that. I’m not going to negotiate here, but we’ve been talking to them just as recently as this morning.”


    Sanders’ referenced a $1.6 billion border security bill that was agreed to in the Senate earlier this year on a bipartisan basis. However, in recent weeks Democrats have said they would support only $1.3 billion for fencing, and that the $1.6 billion package would not pass the House. That left it unclear how and whether the contours of the deal being described by the White House could take shape.


    Congressional Republicans promised Trump several months ago that if he would delay a fight over the border wall until after the midterm elections, they would help him obtain the money in December. But those efforts never materialized, and he was under heavy pressure to avoid a partial government shutdown just a few days before Christmas.


    “The advice he’s getting is to not do this, to just sign the bill, get this over with, and get into 2019 and then have this fight,” said Steve Moore, who was an adviser to Trump during the 2016 campaign.

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    In my opinion, America and the American people are still forgotten when it comes to securing our borders, protecting and wisely using tax dollars, being victim to illegal alien invasion, fraud, crime, protection, and preference. Immigrants, illegal aliens are the chosen protected by many, while hardworking citizens, the homeless, poor, veterans, jobless, other Americans are still forgotten despite the talk proclaiming otherwise.

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    And Trump caves on the Border Wall once again... no shocker. What is that? The fourth or fifth time?
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    It's a terrible situation for the American people. Horrible. President Trump will have to try to figure out some solutions in a way that doesn't require anything from Congress. Maybe he can. He's very smart and very creative so he will if he can. I sure hope so anyway.
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    That's what he said last time


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post


    But Sanders told Fox News Channel: “We have other ways that we can get to that $5 billion.”


    If that is true, why haven't you been using them for the past 2 years! Now, the liar in chief has Sarah Sanders doing his lying for him.

    Really don't know how much more of this boondoggle the people will have to look at before they wake up and realize his campaign was based on a lie, the exact opposite of what he really wants.
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    Going into THIRD YEAR of Presidency and nothing has been done except millions more pour over our border and WE pay for it!

    Every one of these "asylum" seekers had better not qualify for ONE DIME of our money.

    They have not been approved for asylum, they do NOT qualify for asylum either! Shut this scam down!

    DHS does not have to bus them or fly them anywhere within our country! STOP making us pay for their damn transportation too!

    GIVE THEM NOTHING BUT A "NOTICE TO APPEAR" HEARING DATE AND CASE NUMBER! THEY HAVE NO PROOF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    And Trump caves on the Border Wall once again... no shocker. What is that? The fourth or fifth time?

    I think, as we've discovered over the last two years, Trump's threats are meaningless.

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    Exactly! If this latest statement by the Trump admin was true, why didnt he find the five billion elsewhere last year or the year before? One long string of lies coming out of the White House.
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