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    U.S. Visa Limits Hit Indian Workers

    U.S. Visa Limits Hit Indian Workers
    Job Offers Rescinded or Hard to Come By

    By Emily Wax
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Monday, April 6, 2009; A08



    MUMBAI -- With his master's degree in electrical engineering at North Carolina State University almost complete, Ravi, 24, received a promising job offer from a technology firm. He called his parents back in India, happy that he was on track for an H-1B work visa, which is seen as a steppingstone to U.S. citizenship.

    But just before Thanksgiving, Ravi got a call from his future employer.

    "They told me that because of the economic downturn they couldn't hire me in anticipation of tougher times ahead. They were laying off other American employees, and cutting my job would be a proactive measure," said Ravi, who gave only his first name because he did not want his job prospects affected. "I do feel bad for anyone losing a job, whether it's an American or an H-1B foreign worker. But for foreign students, if we don't get a job, we have to go back to our home countries. When I talk to my parents, they tell me not to worry, to just come home. But I had really hoped to stay."

    As the U.S. economy slows, highly skilled foreign professionals seeking work under various visa programs are finding it harder to get jobs. President Obama's stimulus package stops U.S. companies, largely in banking and financial services, that take federal bailout money from hiring H-1B visa holders for two years if they have laid off American workers in the previous six months. The administration has vowed to tighten restrictions and step up oversight of all work visa applications.

    The H-1B program brings in about 85,000 skilled foreign workers every year, ostensibly to fill jobs that U.S. workers cannot or will not do. But some companies in the science and technology fields, afraid of a backlash over hiring foreign professionals rather than American ones, are rescinding job offers. Analysts say it is part of a wave of mounting anger in the United States over work visas, especially at a time when more than half a million Americans are being laid off every month.

    "Hiring H-1B visa holders has become as toxic as giving out corporate bonuses," said Vivek Wadhwa, a Duke University professor and Harvard University research fellow.

    The United States is not the only nation making it more difficult for foreigners to get work. Persian Gulf countries have reduced the number of work visas they offer, forcing unemployed Indians to return home. Britain has begun to review its immigration policies to determine whether there should be more restrictions on the types of workers who can obtain visas.

    "This is part of the broader story of the unwinding of globalization in the current economic crisis. As goods have moved more freely around the world, so did people, but now that's ending," said Edward Alden, a senior fellow at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations and author of the book "The Closing of the American Border: Terrorism, Immigration and Security Since 9/11."

    The stimulus bill contained the Employ American Workers Act, which was sponsored by Sens. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) and Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.). They say that they are worried that laid-off Americans struggling to find work are being displaced by foreign junior investment analysts, computer programmers and corporate lawyers who accept a fraction of the pay commanded by Americans.

    "This H-1B program is a sweetheart deal for employers, in many instances, to be able to gain cheap labor from abroad," Sanders, the son of a Polish immigrant, said in a telephone interview. "Immigration made this country great. But ask those American laid-off workers if they want $40,000-a-year engineers from Russia or India taking the place of an American engineer who would earn $80,000 a year. I don't think anyone is going to tell me with a straight face that they can't find some of that American talent right here on the unemployment lines."

    During the past several months, the largest banks in the United States have announced 100,000 job cuts, Sanders said. Those same banks, which are receiving $150 billion in a taxpayer-funded bailout package, requested visas for more than 21,800 foreign workers over the past six years for positions such as senior vice presidents, corporate lawyers and human resources specialists, Sanders said, citing an Associated Press review of visa applications that the banks filed with the Labor Department.

    As the economy worsened last year and employees were laid off, the number of visas sought by the dozen banks in the AP analysis increased by nearly a third, from 3,258 in fiscal 2007 to 4,163 in fiscal 2008.

    More than 5 million jobs have been lost since the U.S. economy fell into recession more than a year ago, according to the Labor Department.

    But many immigration experts say shutting out the talent from abroad will only hurt U.S. competitiveness in the long run. "It's really unfortunate because we will lose an entire generation of wonderful minds as a by-product," Wadhwa said. "The next Google or Silicon Valley will be in Bangalore or Beijing."

    Nations such as Canada, Singapore and Australia have created "fast-track" immigration policies and incentives to attract foreign professionals.

    Immigrants founded more than half of all Silicon Valley start-ups in the past decade, Wadhwa said. These immigrant-led, U.S. technology companies employed more than 450,000 workers and grossed $52 billion in 2005.

    "My view is that we need to always bring in the best talent from everywhere -- more skilled and educated people end up creating jobs and making the pie bigger for everyone," Wadhwa said.

    Roughly 2 million nonresident Indians, or NRIs, as they are known here, live in the United States, according to the Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs in New Delhi. Worldwide, NRIs send home more than $30 billion a year, making up about 3 percent of India's gross domestic product, the International Labor Organization estimates.

    With elections across India this month and next, political parties have rallied around the new restrictions on H-1B visas, mobilizing the Indian diaspora to lobby U.S. lawmakers, calling on India's government to intervene and threatening to boycott some American products.

    "Truth is that most American companies appointed young Indian talent because they got better work from Indian professionals at a lower cost," said Swami Vigyananand, spokesman for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, which is aligned with the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party. "Now it is time for extending help to Indian talents who made America rich and prosperous. It's protectionist, and it's discriminatory. They want to throw Indian students out like a can of Coke."

    Last month, a delegation from the Confederation of Indian Industry, one of India's largest business groups, visited Washington to plead the case for the H-1B visa program. That comes after members of India's National Association of Software and Service Companies met with Grassley and called the H-1B hiring restrictions "extremely worrying."

    Meanwhile, more foreign students at Ravi's school, where he is a member of the Hindu Students Council, are sharing their stories with one another. They are reluctant to publicize their plight, for two reasons: They fear that most Americans are unsympathetic to their predicament, and many do not want their family and friends in India to know that their dream of sharing in America's prosperity has gone bust. Lives have been disrupted, and some students said they were under tremendous stress to pay back education loans. Ravi, for instance, has $10,000 in loans.

    "The U.S. has benefited from the minds of young Indians. And our generation has benefited because America has welcomed us and we have learned so much here," said Himanshu Dev, president of the council. "But now the H-1B has become a distant dream."

    Staff researcher Robert Thomason in Washington contributed to this report.

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    Sorry, but unless they haven't noticed......America isn't a bottomless pit of jobs and money and land to take everyone who wants to come here.
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    The H-1B program brings in about 85,000 skilled foreign workers every year, ostensibly to fill jobs that U.S. workers cannot or will not do. But some companies in the science and technology fields, afraid of a backlash over hiring foreign professionals rather than American ones, are rescinding job offers. Analysts say it is part of a wave of mounting anger in the United States over work visas, especially at a time when more than half a million Americans are being laid off every month.
    Sure they are rescinding job offers, who is checking. Remember the I-9s since 1986 have not been checked.
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    Bring in the legal skilled that we need.....

    Our immigration system is upside down, we need to get the third world low skilled and un-educated legal and illegals, out of our country. We have imported enough poverty. We can't afford it and then really why should we be saddled with the debt they incur? Instead of the current system, we need to bring in people with skills, talents and abilites that can actually help our country. People that we need that won't replace American workers.


    It makes good business sense to bring in the best and the brightest assuming the business doesn't already have the best and brightest internally.
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    They are talking about how inconvenient it is to have to leave the country if they lose their job. Well, how inconvenient is it for Americans to face homelessness, loss of access to medical care, losing your stuff to eviction, etc., and what about your kids?

    Those Indians who go home mostly have extended families to welcome them, and better job prospects than we have here.
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    Well, how inconvenient is it for Americans to face homelessness, loss of access to medical care, losing your stuff to eviction, etc., and what about your kids?
    They have a place to go...home.......not like there's a country opening it's borders for American citizens to take the jobless and homeless and care for them. Try "immigrating" broke and done for. They don't want us either and no ones forcing them to take us.
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    crazybird Excellent and Exact.
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    But for foreign students, if we don't get a job, we have to go back to our home countries
    And so what! Wasn't that supposed to be the deal when you were allowed to come to this country and get an education? To earn a degree and take it back to your country of orgin and do good, perhaps make your part of the world a little better!!!

    I guess not...
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    Re: Bring in the legal skilled that we need.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ELE
    Our immigration system is upside down, we need to get the third world low skilled and un-educated legal and illegals, out of our country. We have imported enough poverty. We can't afford it and then really why should we be saddled with the debt they incur? Instead of the current system, we need to bring in people with skills, talents and abilites that can actually help our country. People that we need that won't replace American workers.


    It makes good business sense to bring in the best and the brightest assuming the business doesn't already have the best and brightest internally.
    Exactly. I know Mexican and Indian software engineers who would love to be able to stay and work here. Still, I'd rather we don't rely on outside help and focus instead on training our citizens with the skills which are in high demand. Importing the brightest is simply the easy way out in satisfying that demand.

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