Thread: Univision says Trump showed 'complete disregard...for countless Hispanics'

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/26/medi...n-jorge-ramos/

Univision says Trump showed 'complete disregard...for countless Hispanics'
By Brian Stelter @brianstelter

The Univision network's top executive released a staunch defense of Jorge Ramos on Wednesday night, 24 hours after the anchorman tangled with Donald Trump at a nationally televised press conference.

Randy Falco, the CEO of Univision, said Trump's treatment of Ramos "demonstrated complete disregard for him and for the countless Hispanics whom Jorge seeks to represent through press questions that are at the heart of the First Amendment."

On Tuesday night, Trump's campaign briefly ejected Ramos from a press conference after the anchorman stood up and tried to question Trump about immigration.

Falco said "the recent treatment that Jorge Ramos received at Mr. Trump's press conference in Iowa is beneath contempt."

Ramos, who is both a nightly news anchor and an advocate for Hispanic Americans, had a lengthy debate with Trump once he was allowed back inside. The two men jabbed at each other on Wednesday, with Trump calling Ramos a "madman" and Ramos insisting that Trump must be called out for fostering hatred and division.

Related: Univision's Jorge Ramos: It's my 'right' to challenge Trump on immigration

Some prominent commentators criticized Ramos for speaking at the press conference without being called on and for crusading against Trump's deportation plans. On the other hand, Ramos' fans say they admire his point-of-view journalism.

Falco is clearly a fan, and Wednesday's statement was designed to reaffirm his support for Ramos, the network's best-known news anchor.

"As a Presidential candidate, Mr. Trump is going to get tough questions from the press and has to answer them," Falco said. "Jorge Ramos is one the most professional, dedicated and respected journalists I have seen or worked with in my 40 years in media. He always asks hard questions of candidates and elected officials, regardless of party or issue."

Falco's comment, "regardless of party or issue," was an implicit rebuttal to those who have described Ramos as a left-wing activist, as Fox News host Bill O'Reilly did on Wednesday night.

Falco's statement concluded, "I remain grateful for the first-rate journalistic work that Jorge and all of his news colleagues at Univision and Fusion do to bring all points of view to the 57 million Hispanics in this country."

Fusion is an English-language cable channel co-owned by Univision and Disney (DIS).

Univision is by far the most-watched Spanish-language broadcaster in the United States.

Ramos is the face of the network's news coverage. He has been described as the "Anderson Cooper of Spanish-language news" and even the "Hispanic Walter Cronkite."

Ramos said he'd been pursuing a Trump interview for months and decided to attend the Tuesday press conference in Iowa because he'd been repeatedly turned down.

During the testy exchange, Trump reminded Ramos that he is suing Univision for $500 million. The suit stems from the channel's decision to cancel its airing of the Miss USA pageant in July.

Univision dropped the pageant to protest Trump's controversial remarks about Mexican immigrants being criminals and rapists.

CNNMoney (New York) August 26, 2015: 9:37 PM ET

Univision is dishonest. Trump has never shown disregard for Hispanics. Not ever. Not in any way, shape or form. He's called out rapists, murderers, criminals, drug runners and illegal aliens from Mexico and other countries which has absolutely nothing to do with American Hispanics.

Univision has created an empire selling ethnic elitism, racism and illegal alien self-interest in a our country. I hope Donald Trump never ever does an interview on Univision, Fusion or Telemundo for that matter.

When a licensed network in our country chooses to use its broadcasting rights to sell ethnic elitism, racism and illegal alien self-interest, then it has surpassed its role as a contributor worthy of a license and has become itself a spectacle of division and a source of harm to Americans.

All fellow Americans, of all descents and origins, need to realize that Univision is part of the problem, not the solution. When Ramos is pandering to and for illegal aliens, he is working against your best interest and that of your families and children, no matter your race or ethnicity, because no matter what else you want to call yourselves, you're Americans First and Last or you're not Americans at all.

Trump obviously hasn't shown that much "disregard" for them because he still employees them.

Donald Trump hired illegal immigrants to build his new luxury hotel because of course he did

7/8/15 12:30pm by Jon Green 39

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  Donald Trump has jumped to second place in early-state Republican primary polling on the backs of undocumented immigrants. More precisely, Donald Trump has jumped to second place in the Republican primary polling by calling undocumented immigrants diseased-infestedrapists and murderers — comments that have energized the Republican base beyond belief.

The absurdity of Donald Trump can be measured many ways: the number of times he’s gone bankrupt; the number of companies and organization’s he’s sued; the number of times he’s been married — despite hissupport for “traditional” marriage, as in one man, one woman, one time; the number of secret plans he has to fight the Islamic State; and so on. So it should come as no surprise that The Washington Post found a new way to measure Trump’s absurdity yesterday: the number of undocumented immigrants he’s currently employing.

The Post interviewed roughly twenty people working on construction for Trump’s new luxury hotel in Washington, D.C., and found that a number of them were there in the country illegally. Still more had illegally immigrated before later gaining legal status. They are employed by Lend Lease, a contracting firm hired by one of Trumps companies. In a statement, one of Trump’s spokespeople would only say that they and affiliated companies had complied with all applicable laws when hiring employees for the project.

The workers, many of whom commute from as far away as Baltimore to work on construction for the hotel, which will be located five blocks from the White House, expressed concern that they could lose their jobs at any moment now that the candidate has a political interest in seeing them deported. Others were just (righteously) angry over his remarks:

“Do you think that when we’re hanging out there from the eighth floor that we’re raping or selling drugs?” Ramon Alvarez, 48, a window worker from El Salvador, said during a break Monday morning just outside the construction site. “We’re risking our lives and our health. A lot of the chemicals we deal with are toxic.”

Mediaite called the Post‘s report “the most predictable development in world history.”

Donald Trump, via Gage Skidmore / Flickr

After all, for all of Trump’s bloviating against all things Mexico, this is a man who will ditch all of his moral convictions if he thinks it will get him a buck, or a “young and beautiful piece of ass.” As Gabe Ortiz of America’s Voice pointed out, much of his clothing line is manufactured in Mexico.

It will be interesting to see how the GOP base handles the news that their anti-immigrant champion is totally pro-immigrant when it comes to exploiting their labor for personal gain. Mitt “Self-Deportation” Romney took damage over similar charges in 2011, when reports re-emerged that he had hired undocumented immigrants to work on his lawn. Of course, he went on to win the nomination, so history suggests that Republican voter can handle at least some level of immigration hypocrisy from their leaders.

But Trump is taking that hypocrisy to immeasurably absurd levels. So absurd, in fact, that — according to him — he’s going to win the latino vote.

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MW, this is the actual Washington Post article your article is misquoting. There is no evidence at all that there are any illegal aliens on that job site from the Post's "investigation". Some entered illegally but were given legal status which means they are not illegal aliens now and under US labor law at the present time, legal immigrants can not be discriminated against in hiring practices.

At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary

Workers leave the site of the future Trump International Hotel, which is at the site of the Old Post Office Pavilion in Washington. (Matt McClain/The Washington Post)

By Antonio Olivo July 6, 2015

For weeks, dozens of construction workers from Latin America have streamed onto the site of the Old Post Office Pavilion in downtown Washington and taken pride in their work building one of the city’s newest luxury hotels.

But that job site is now laden with tension after the man behind the project — billionaire developer Donald Trump — put himself at the center of the nation’s debate over illegal immigration.

Trump garnered headlines — and prompted several business associates to sever relations with him — when he launched his bid for the Republican presidential nomination last month with a controversial description of drug dealers and “rapists” crossing the border each day into the United States from Mexico.

But a Trump company may be relying on some undocumented workers to finish the $200 million hotel, which will sit five blocks from the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue, according to several who work there. A Trump spokeswoman said the company and its contractors follow all applicable laws. But in light of Trump’s comments, some of the workers at the site said they are now worried about their jobs — while others simply expressed disgust over the opinions of the man ultimately responsible for the creation of those jobs.

Since Donald Trump announced his presidential bid, he's drawn plenty of controversy and outrage for his comments on the campaign trail. Here are some of the key moments. (The Washington Post)

All of them said they have been talking about Trump ever since his inflammatory remarks dominated coverage of his presidential announcement on June 16.

“It’s something ironic,” said Ivan Arellano, 29, who is from Mexico and obtained legal status through marriage. He now works as a mason laying the stonework for the lobby floor and walls of what will become the Trump International Hotel.

“The majority of us are Hispanics, many who came illegally,” Arellano said in Spanish. “And we’re all here working very hard to build a better life for our families.”

Interviews with about 15 laborers helping renovate the Old Post Office Pavilion revealed that many of them had crossed the U.S-Mexico border illegally before they eventually settled in the Washington region to build new lives.

Several of the men, who hail mostly from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, have earned U.S. citizenship or legal status through immigration programs targeting Central Americans fleeing civil wars or natural disasters. Others quietly acknowledged that they remain in the country illegally.

“Most of the concern is that this escalates into a bigger problem,” said Daniel Gonzalez, 45, a sheet metal worker from El Salvador who crossed the border in the 1980s to escape his country’s civil war. He became a U.S. citizen after a federal immigration judge granted him asylum, he said.

“He might come one day and pretty much tell us to get the heck out of here,” Gonzalez said of Trump.

The real estate mogul and reality television celebrity said Tuesday that he would seek the Republican presidential nomination from the eponymous Trump Tower in New York.

Several of the laborers — who travel to work from as far away as Baltimore or Manassas, Va., every day — fumed at Trump’s comments, saying that they have led honest lives that have allowed them to buy homes and raise U.S.-born children.

“Do you think that when we’re hanging out there from the eighth floor that we’re raping or selling drugs?” Ramon Alvarez, 48, a window worker from El Salvador, said during a break Monday morning just outside the construction site. “We’re risking our lives and our health. A lot of the chemicals we deal with are toxic.”

In response to questions from The Washington Post, Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for the Trump Organization, issued a statement saying that the company and its contractors followed all applicable U.S. immigration laws when hiring the site’s several hundred workers.

“Our contractors are required to have prospective employees produce documentation that establishes identity and employment eligibility in compliance with immigration law,” the *e-mailed statement said.

Lend Lease, the lead contractor at the site, “requires all contractors performing work at the project to follow all applicable federal, state and local laws,” the statement said.

Michael D. Cohen, executive vice president and legal counsel to Trump, said the question of illegal hiring practices had not arisen before at a Trump work site.

“Mr. Trump, who is the 100 percent owner of the Old Post Office, hired one of the largest contractors in the world to act as the general contractor,” Cohen said in a telephone interview. “That company is Lend Lease. They then go out and employ subcontractors to work for them. The obligation to check all workers on site is exclusive to Lend Lease. This of course assumes that the assertion regarding the employees’ status is accurate.”

A spokeswoman for Lend Lease declined to comment on any aspects of the project, which is expected to be finished by early 2016.

Hicks, also a spokeswoman for Trump’s political operation, said the campaign had no comment on the matter.

Trump’s comments about illegal immigration — which included a promise to “build a great, great wall on our southern border” and bill Mexico for the cost — reflect deep-rooted concerns among conservative voters over the effect of illegal immigration in the United States. Yet, concerns raised by workers at one of his company’s real estate ventures reveal the complexities of an issue that has long polarized the country.

The rapid rejection of Trump’s comments by some of his business partners may also reflect how perilous a topic immigration is, not just for Trump but the entire Republican presidential field.

Trump’s comments were popular with conservative activists across the country — and may even have helped elevate his status, with polls in the early nominating states Iowa and New Hampshire showing him gaining ground. But they were less popular among an increasingly diverse general electorate that serves as a consumer base for the influential corporate entities that were quick to distance themselves from the mogul’s remarks.

The NBC television network, the Macy’s department store chain and several other businesses have since severed ties with Trump — part of a backlash that has cheered Democrats and caused worry among Republicans seeking to win more Latino votes.

On Monday, several hundred people had also signed an online petition asking D.C. chef José Andrés to “dump Trump” by backing out of his deal to open the flagship restaurant at Trump’s hotel.

[Hundreds signed a petition asking D.C. chef José Andrés to ‘dump Trump’]

At the mammoth construction site in Washington that bears Trump’s name, workers said the controversy has caused some worry as they sandblast through layers of chipped paint in the 114-year-old building, install air-conditioning systems that will cool the new hotel’s 271 guest rooms, or cling to a scaffolding while they install windows.

The site is a bustling microcosm of blue-collar work life in Washington — with soaring turrets and a majestic clock tower that evoke the building’s heyday as the District’s main post office in the early 20th century.

Trucks roll in and out of the construction site carrying heavy loads of cement or carting off piles of debris. Over the din of surrounding traffic, foremen yell instructions to their charges, urging them to press forward on a project that will also include a massive ballroom, high-end restaurants and two luxurious suites in the former offices of the postmaster general.

Arms covered in dust, crowds of men recently took a break just outside the site while still wearing their hard hats and bright yellow construction vests, smoking cigarettes or arguing about sports in both English and Spanish.

Ahmad Samadi, 26, a site foreman who arrived last year from Afghanistan under U.S. political asylum, said he has had to learn some Spanish to communicate with his crew. “Most of the workers here are migrants,” he said. Pausing, Samadi added about Trump: “I don’t think it’s right, what he said. They’re hard workers.”

For David Montoya, 28, Trump’s comments are a harsh reminder that anyone who is not a U.S. citizen is vulnerable to stricter immigration laws in the country. A truck driver at the hotel site, Montoya arrived from El Salvador in 1997, gaining temporary protected status from deportation in 2001. “Every 18 months, I have to get it renewed,” he said, in perfect English, adding that he dreams of permanent legal status.

Montoya reflected on his journey as an immigrant, which now includes three U.S.-born children and a house that he and his wife own in a quiet section of Silver Spring, Md. He noted with pride that he thinks his story — one of coming to a new world, and of hard work paying off — is more impressive than that of the powerful developer whose name adorned the sign behind him as he spoke.

“Actually,” he reflected, “we’re more American than him.”

Antonio covers government, politics and other regional issues in Fairfax County. He worked in Los Angeles, New York and Chicago before joining the Post in September of 2013.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...a61_story.html

Originally Posted by Judy

MW, this is the actual Washington Post article your article is misquoting. There is no evidence at all that there are any illegal aliens on that job site from the Post's "investigation". Some entered illegally but were given legal status which means they are not illegal aliens now and under US labor law at the present time, legal immigrants can not be discriminated against in hiring practices.

Do you have some special purpose for ignoring the facts as presented? Regardless of what a Trump spokesman says, the article you posted makes it very clear that there are illegal immigrants working at the job site.

Excerpts:

“The majority of us are Hispanics, many who came illegally,” Arellano said in Spanish. “And we’re all here working very hard to build a better life for our families.”

Interviews with about 15 laborers helping renovate the Old Post Office Pavilion revealed that many of them had crossed the U.S-Mexico border illegally before they eventually settled in the Washington region to build new lives.

Several of the men, who hail mostly from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, have earned U.S. citizenship or legal status through immigration programs targeting Central Americans fleeing civil wars or natural disasters. Others quietly acknowledged that they remain in the country illegally.

Ignoring the facts doesn't make them any less true. Remember, whether the information is good or bad, let's be honest.

Originally Posted by MW

Do you have some special purpose for ignoring the facts as presented? Regardless of what a Trump spokesman says, the article you posted makes it very clear that there are illegal immigrants working at the job site.

Excerpts:







Ignoring the facts doesn't make them any less true. Remember, whether the information is good or bad, let's be honest.

See, MW, the reason I post the whole actual Washington Post article is so that people who read this forum can read the entire article instead of someone's biased re-interpretation of it. For example, you cut a sentence omitting the sentence above it to claim your cut as fact when the sentence above it proves it isn't a fact.

“It’s something ironic,” said Ivan Arellano, 29, who is from Mexico and obtained legal status through marriage. He now works as a mason laying the stonework for the lobby floor and walls of what will become the Trump International Hotel.

“The majority of us are Hispanics, many who came illegally,” Arellano said in Spanish. “And we’re all here working very hard to build a better life for our families.”

He came illegally but is not illegal now. You cut out the sentence above your quote that proves in this instance your position is false, because the article you posted is false, because the person interviewed is a legal worker in the US who yes originally came illegally but is legal now.

I'm not going to take the time to address the other cut ans pastes. People who read this forum are highly intelligent people who will not be confused by selective cuts and pastes. I posted the actual Washington Post article in its entirety so they can read for themselves, as I'm sure they will.

By the way, what was your goal with your article? To try to convince Republicans and other Americans that Trump is no good, that the person leading our party at this time is some type of hypocrite scoundrel, some no good illegal employer exploiting illegal aliens to line his pockets? Was that your objective?

MW, you need to wake up and read the headlines, because:

THAT DOG WON'T HUNT.

Geez, Judy, you're living in a world of your own. The facts are right there in front of you, yet you still choose to ignore them at best, at worse twist them to meet your own agenda. All I ask for is the truth (that's my goal). The article makes it very clear that there are illegals working on Trump's project. Everyone can see that. I excluded the information on Ivan Arellano because he is legal. However, he admitted that many of the other workers came here illegally. You need to stop cherry picking your arguments. I say that because I noticed you didn't comment on this:

Excerpt:

Several of the men, who hail mostly from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, have earned U.S. citizenship or legal status through immigration programs targeting Central Americans fleeing civil wars or natural disasters. Others quietly acknowledged that they remain in the country illegally.

Now are you going to also call the workers themselves liars? What purpose would they have for admitting that they are here illegally?

MW .
I READ YOUR POST & FROM THE LOOK OF IT YOU DON'T LIKE TRUMP . & TRUMP TO ME
WELL HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT STOOD UP FOR,THE USA NO OTHER'S DID I DON'T CARE ABOUT HIS PASS HAVE YOU EVERY LISTEN TO THE ( MICHAEL SAVAGE ) * SEE WHAT TRUMP DID SAY ABOUT OUR COUNTRY IT LOOK LIKE EVERY ONE KICK HIM DOWN WHY HE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK & WANT ALL OF TE BAD ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OUT WELL SO DO I OBAMA NEVER HELP AT ALL HE IS FOR THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS .TRUMP WAS THE ONLY ONE WHEN TO THE BORDER . I DID NOT SEE ANY OTHER ONE WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT SEE THE MAYOR ? ONLY TRUMP HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID ANY HELP .ALL THE OBAMA & THE GOV WANT IS A PAY CHECK & YOU ARE NOT DOING ONE THING TO HELP OUR COUNTRY ALL, I HEAR
IS IM IF I BE COME PRESIDENT .IM GOING TO THIS & THAT & YOU ALL DON'T DO NOT ONE THING TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN TRUMP TO ME IS STREET SMART HE CAN MANAGEMENT
THAT WHY HE HAS WHAT HE HAS . &HE SEE THAT COUNTRY IS IN A MESS & HE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK & SO DO I IM STILL OUT OF WORK WHY THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
THAT WHY .
HE IS GOING TO HAVE HEALTH CARE FOR THE LADY . SO GO & LISTEN TO THE MICHAEL SAVAGE SHOW & LISTEN

Originally Posted by MW

Geez, Judy, you're living in a world of your own. The facts are right there in front of you, yet you still choose to ignore them at best, at worse twist them to meet your own agenda. All I ask for is the truth (that's my goal). The article makes it very clear that there are illegals working on Trump's project. Everyone can see that. I excluded the information on Ivan Arellano because he is legal. However, he admitted that many of the other workers came here illegally. You need to stop cherry picking your arguments. I say that because I noticed you didn't comment on this:

Excerpt:



Now are you going to also call the workers themselves liars? What purpose would they have for admitting that they are here illegally?

If they're actually workers on Trump's project, of course they're liars. They already lied to their employer to get the job! Now they're lying to a reporter to try to defeat Trump so they won't be deported, if they really are employed by Trump or one of his companies and not day laborers hanging on the street corner trying to get signed on.

Even the Washington Post didn't trust the information which is why the article in their own words says:

But a Trump company may be relying on some undocumented workers to finish the $200 million hotel, which will sit five blocks from the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue, according to several who work there. A Trump spokeswoman said the company and its contractors follow all applicable laws. But in light of Trump’s comments, some of the workers at the site said they are now worried about their jobs — while others simply expressed disgust over the opinions of the man ultimately responsible for the creation of those jobs.

Even the Washington Post doesn't accuse Trump of hiring illegal aliens, and you can bet your ass if they thought he was or is in fact hiring illegal aliens, they would have said "was" or "is" instead of "may be".

Then you take a "may" and turn it into an "is" as if you know something about "others who quietly acknowledge they are in the country illegally" when you don't know a damn thing about who they are, who they're working for, whether or not they are in the country illegally, or whether if they are, they have "quietly" falsified their status to their employer to get hired on.

Originally Posted by Judy

If they're actually workers on Trump's project, of course they're liars. They already lied to their employer to get the job! Now they're lying to a reporter to try to defeat Trump so they won't be deported, if they really are employed by Trump or one of his companies and not day laborers hanging on the street corner trying to get signed on.

Even the Washington Post didn't trust the information which is why the article in their own words says:



Even the Washington Post doesn't accuse Trump of hiring illegal aliens, and you can bet your ass if they thought he was or is in fact hiring illegal aliens, they would have said "was" or "is" instead of "may be".

Then you take a "may" and turn it into an "is" as if you know something about "others who quietly acknowledge they are in the country illegally" when you don't know a damn thing about who they are, who they're working for, whether or not they are in the country illegally, or whether if they are, they have "quietly" falsified their status to their employer to get hired on.

You never cease to amaze me, Judy.