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    White House: Here’s A Map To Show You How Amnesty Will Help Your State!

    10:56 PM 01/26/2015
    Chuck Ross

    The White House is embarking on a public relations pitch to raise awareness about President Obama’s executive amnesty, which the administration claims will provide a boost to the economy and have no negative impact on American workers — a claim which Obama himself has disputed in the past.

    To help sell Obama’s unilateral action, which he announced in November, the White House has published a U.S. map which shows how much economic output will increase for each state due to amnesty. The amnesty will provide temporary relief from deportation and legal work status to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants.

    The White House is also creating a series of eye-catching flash cards for each U.S. state with the hashtag #ImmigrationAction, which show how each will supposedly benefit from amnesty.

    California is the first state the White House is highlighting. Texas is next.

    The stats are based on an analysis conducted by White House’s Council of Economic Advisers, which found that Obama’s executive action will increase U.S. GDP by 0.4 percent over the next decade. That increase will cut the federal deficit by $25 billion by 2024, the advisers predict.

    The report also asserts that U.S. workers will not be displaced from their jobs due to Obama’s unilateral effort.

    But in what is perhaps the most disputed claim — or the one most lacking in context — CEA claims that wages for U.S.-born workers will increase by an annual average of $170 by 2024 due to amnesty.

    High-skilled immigration would lead to more innovation and “positive spillovers” for native workers, CEA asserts. “Better task specialization and occupational reallocation” would be a positive consequence of work authorization for illegal immigrants and would cause greater productivity and higher wages for U.S.-born workers, the advisers claim.

    But other research has indicated that immigration causes a decline in U.S. workers’ wages. What’s more, the research finds that it is low-skilled, blue-collar American workers who bear the brunt of more immigrant workers.

    Harvard University economist George Borjas found that between 1980 and 2000, immigration caused a 4.8 percent decrease in wages for U.S.-born workers without a high school degree. In research published in 2013, Borjas found that immigration caused a $1,396 annual decrease in U.S. workers’ wages in the short-term.

    He also found that high-income Americans benefit the most from illegal immigration, contributing further to economic inequality, which Democrats usually oppose.

    “Illegal immigration reduces the wage of native workers by an estimated $99 to $118 billion a year, and generates a gain for businesses and other users of immigrants of $107 to $128 billion,” Borjas found.

    In its report, CEA dismissed research conducted by Borjas and two other colleagues which showed similar negative effects for low-skilled U.S.-born workers.

    But Obama himself has indicated that he subscribes to the same argument Borjas and others have made.

    “If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net,” Obama wrote in his 2006 autobiography “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.”

    The White House’s analysis of the long-term economic impact of Obama’s amnesty also fails to consider the argument made by Obama’s opponents who argue that the effort will spur more illegal immigration in the future.

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    The stats are based on an analysis conducted by White House’s Council of Economic Advisers, which found that Obama’s executive action will increase U.S. GDP by 0.4 percent over the next decade. That increase will cut the federal deficit by $25 billion by 2024, the advisers predict.

    The report also asserts that U.S. workers will not be displaced from their jobs due to Obama’s unilateral effort.

    But in what is perhaps the most disputed claim — or the one most lacking in context — CEA claims that wages for U.S.-born workers will increase by an annual average of $170 by 2024 due to amnesty.

    High-skilled immigration would lead to more innovation and “positive spillovers” for native workers, CEA asserts. “Better task specialization and occupational reallocation” would be a positive consequence of work authorization for illegal immigrants and would cause greater productivity and higher wages for U.S.-born workers, the advisers claim.
    Oh my gosh, give me a second to catch my breath and pick myself up from rolling on the floor laughing.

    Okay, I'm serious now, where to begin? Oh well, lets begin with asking the all important question:

    1. How does the White House Council of Economic Advisors know who are the US born workers and how much they make?

    2. How does the income of a US born worker (assuming you know who that is and what they make, a point of contention) increase by flooding the US job market with millions of illegal aliens?

    3. What fool is going to support "amnesty" over a .04 increase in GDP over the next 10 years, which is only .004 per year assuming someone among the idiots in this White House could even predict what GDP will be in 10 years? And how much of that is funded by taxpayer money and a growing national debt paying for their massive welfare utilization?

    4. Since American wages have decreased in recent years, and so far there are no policies to fix the cause of that decline, how can the White House claim that it knows that legalizing 5 million illegal alien workers will increase wages by $170 a year by 2024? Did they know that wages were dropping before it occurred in recent years? Is that why they did nothing to stop it? Average income for US workers is less than $26,695 a year, so they think they can tell us that wages are going to increase by $170 a year during the next 10 years? You mean if Americans support amnesty for 5 million illegal workers, by some magic carpet ride, our wages are going to increase $17 a year, pre-tax? You mean $1.40 a month? Oh my god, I'm wetting my pants, sign me up! What is wrong with you morons? Do you really think American Workers would put up with any illegal alien for even 1 minute for $1.00 a month net? That is laughable! You expect Americans to sell out their country to a bunch of illegal aliens for a buck a month knowing that their wages have fallen by thousands per year or they lost their job entirely because of illegal aliens stealing their jobs and deflating our wages while running up our tax budget and national debt? How frigging stupid do you morons really think Americans are? Well, guess what? We're good, we're kind, we're trusting, but we are not stupid, and soon you pro-immigrant ass hats are going to find out just how frigging smart we are.

    I need to go read my blood pressure to make sure I don't explode, so I'll just end with this:

    I can't wait until Jeff Sessions and his staff get a hold of this latest revelation of the absolute stupidity of this Administration.
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    What a huge load of horse hockey!

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    For me, this is a very simple issue that has nothing to do with our economy. The pure and simple fact of the matter is, these folks have broken the law. You don't REWARD such actions because it expands the "it's okay to break the law" mentality and contributes to more of the same.

    It is important to remember that amnesty is a free pass not only for immigration violations, but also for many other crimes commited during the illegals stay in the U.S. such as:



    • False Personation of a U.S. Citizen (18 U.S.C. § 911). Illegal aliens often present themselves as U.S. citizens, an act punishable by up to five years in jail, a felony. This law is often cited in immigration prosecutions and may involve, for example, an alien claiming U.S. citizenship to his employer.
    • Fraud and False Statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001). It is common for illegal aliens to make false statements to the government or on official documents. An illegal alien violates this law when claiming to be a U.S. citizen on an I-9 Employment Eligibility form and faces a fine and up to five years imprisonment.
    • Social Security Fraud (42 U.S.C. § 40). This statute has been invoked where an illegal alien provided a false Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a job, where an illegal alien used a fraudulent Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a driver's license, and when an illegal alien used a Social Security card belonging to a citizen in order to obtain Section 8 housing, for example. Violation of this statute can result in a fine and/or imprisonment up to five years. The court can also require violators to provide restitution to the victims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    . . . 1. How does the White House Council of Economic Advisors know who are the US born workers and how much they make?

    2. How does the income of a US born worker (assuming you know who that is and what they make, a point of contention) . . .
    I.R.S. records.
    Your Social Security Number has your date of birth, place of birth, etc.
    and they know how much you make each year of your life.


    1. Tax Statistics - Internal Revenue Service

      www.irs.gov/uac/Tax-Stats-2
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      Provides tables, articles and data that describe and measure elements of the U.S. tax system, including links to the
      Statistics of Income (SOI) studies relating to ...Individual Income Tax Return - ‎Individual Tax - ‎Statistics of Income - ‎Corporations
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    I.R.S. Tax Statistics

    Welcome to Tax Stats

    Here you will find a wide range of tables, articles, and data that describe and measure elements of the U.S. tax system.
    Check out What's New.
    Page Last Reviewed or Updated: 07-Jan-2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    I.R.S. records.
    Your Social Security Number has your date of birth, place of birth, etc.
    and they know how much you make each year of your life.


    1. Tax Statistics - Internal Revenue Service

      www.irs.gov/uac/Tax-Stats-2
      Internal Revenue Service
      Provides tables, articles and data that describe and measure elements of the U.S. tax system, including links to the
      Statistics of Income (SOI) studies relating to ...Individual Income Tax Return - ‎Individual Tax - ‎Statistics of Income - ‎Corporations
    And these are made available outside of the IRS?

    All the more reason to pass the FairTax.

    www.fairtax.org

    Thank you, JohnDoe2, for the information. Unbelievable. Why would any American want a government tax agency to have all this information about them which is then used by the government against them in an immigration or other debate?

    It's just so wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong on every level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    And these are made available outside of the IRS? . . .
    Names, Social Security numbers and other personal info are NOT released. ONLY STATISTICS.
    (CLICK to see example: Statistics of Income )
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Names, Social Security numbers and other personal info are NOT released. ONLY STATISTICS.
    (CLICK to see example: Statistics of Income )
    But that assumes we have a law-abiding Executive Branch, right? And since we know we don't, then these "STATISTICS" are a huge problem for Americans, especially considering the fact that taxable and reported incomes are very different than actual income, especially when it comes to tax statistics comparing Americans to illegal aliens in a country which has 70 million or at least 20% of its population on welfare. How can they possibly use these historical statistics to predict a laughable income increase if we legalize the 5 million which will actually end up being 10 to 20 million illegal aliens in the US? This type of data should not be in the hands of the government or used in anyway by the government to concoct lies to deceive the people on a policy issue particularly one that involves a violation of existing laws through an illegal amnesty.

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