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    White House stiffens against illegal immigrants

    White House stiffens against illegal immigrants

    Posted: Sep 11, 2009 9:49 PM EDT
    Updated: Sep 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT

    By ERICA WERNER
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    http://www.nbc-2.com/Global/story.asp?S=11117685

    WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House strengthened its stand against health care coverage for illegal immigrants Friday, and a pivotal Senate committee looked ready to follow its lead.

    The developments reflected a renewed focus on the issue in the days since a Republican congressman's outburst during President Barack Obama's health care speech to Congress on Wednesday night. Republican Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina shouted "You lie!" as Obama said illegal immigrants wouldn't be covered under his health plan.

    Democrats had pointed to provisions in House and Senate legislation that prohibited illegal immigrants from getting federal subsidies that would be offered to lower-income Americans to help them buy insurance.

    That didn't go far enough for Wilson or many other Republicans, who noted the absence of any enforcement mechanism or requirement for verification of legal status. There are some 7 million illegalimmigrants in this country who lack health insurance, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.

    The issue has caused heat on talk radio and at congressional town halls, too. So on Friday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs sketched a new position that goes even further than some conservative critics had demanded: Obama will oppose letting illegal immigrants buy insurance through new purchasing exchanges the government will set up - even from private companies operating within the exchanges.

    "Illegal immigrants would not be allowed to access the exchange that is set up," Gibbs said. Verification requirements are "something we'd work out with Congress," he said.

    Currently illegal immigrants are barred from government-funded care except in certain emergency cases, but many buy private insurance and there's nothing to prevent them from doing that. That would change under the White House's proposal, which is certain to alarm some on the left.

    White House officials contended that the policy didn't represent a change of position for Obama, but it's one he apparently hasn't articulated in the past. In his speech Wednesday, Obama said only that "the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

    The proposed new marketplace, or exchange, would allow consumers and small businesses to shop for insurance and compare prices in a regulated, competitive environment. The exchange has been built into all the health bills moving through the House and Senate.

    Private companies could offer health coverage through the exchange if they meet certain criteria and if Congress created a new government-run plan that would be offered through the exchange, too.

    Illegal immigrants were to be allowed in the exchange and even in the public plan if they used their own money under legislation that passed three committees in the House and one in the Senate. Before Friday, there was little indication that that would change, even in the crucial Senate Finance Committee, which is facing a deadline of early next week to complete a comprehensive health bill.

    In explaining its new position, the White House said that illegal immigrants could continue to buy insurance in the private insurance market outside the exchange, which would shrink with the creation of the exchange but still exist.

    The issue of illegal immigration also bedeviled the so-called Gang of Six of three Democrats and three Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee, who met Friday trying to reach elusive bipartisan agreement on that and other contentious issues.

    One of the negotiators, Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said that after Obama's speech the group revisited its illegal immigrant provisions to make sure legislative language would enforce requirements for people to have valid Social Security numbers before getting government-subsidized coverage.

    "What we are trying to prevent is anyone who is here illegally from getting any federal benefit," Conrad told reporters. He didn't specify whether illegal immigrants would be allowed into the exchange, but Friday evening, a Democratic Finance Committee aide said that although nothing was finalized, the committee was expected to follow the White House's lead and bar illegal immigrants from the exchange.

    Finance Committee aides will be working through the weekend to finalize language on illegal immigration and other issues, including abortion, medical malpractice and how much states must pay for a Medicaid expansion.

    It could become clear as early as Monday, when the group next meets, whether Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., gets the bipartisan deal he's been seeking for months.
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    Fix Corruption first then legislation

    I think Glenn Beck is right that we need to get rid of the corruption in Washington and then work on new legislation. Because we can't trust that the gov't won't try to pull dirty things on us at the last minute.
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    You know Democrats think they are going to throw us a bone to occupy and shut us up and then they will turn around and give them amnesty,once they get their health care bill pushed through.

    America doesn't need national health care.

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    VOTE OF NO TRUST...

    I DO NOT Trust them to do it either anymore. The Obama administration is very sneaky and are probably trying to put in failsafe loopholes somewhere else as we speak...THIS MUST BE A BI PARTISAN BILL WITH INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE...THIS AFFECTS US ALL AND WE MUST HAVE A SAY IN IT...

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    There are some 7 million illegalimmigrants in this country who lack health insurance, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.
    Excuse me? Seven million illegal immigrants who lack insurance? So what about the other 5 to 13 million? On medicaid? Because of their anchor babies? Cause there isn't any 7 million illegals here, it is much more than that.
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    Re: VOTE OF NO TRUST...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tbow009
    I DO NOT Trust them to do it either anymore. The Obama administration is very sneaky and are probably trying to put in failsafe loopholes somewhere else as we speak...THIS MUST BE A BI PARTISAN BILL WITH INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE...THIS AFFECTS US ALL AND WE MUST HAVE A SAY IN IT...
    YOU HAVE GOT A REAL GOOD POINT THERE Tbow009, I TOO THINK THE AMERICAN CITIZENS SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN THIS BECAUSE AFTER ALL IT IS OUR TAX DOLLARS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THIS SITUATION WITH THESE ILLEGAL ALIENS IS REALLY HURTING THIS COUNTRY IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. AND THE WORSE PART ABOUT IT IS, ITS DIVIDING THE COUNTRY AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE. MAYBE THE U.S. SHOULD TRY SENDING SOME OF ITS CITIZENS DOWN TO MEXICO TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD RESPOND TO ILLEGAL AMERICANS BEING IN THEIR COUNTRY DEMANDING THINGS FROM THEM. WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS BULL WOULD NEVER BE TOLERATED IN MEXICO AND ITS TIME FOR THIS GOVERNMENT TO STOP DANCING TO MEXICO'S TUNE.

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    This is probably true enough but what they omitted is that they plan on making the illegals all citizens who will benefit everything the US taxpayer has to offer. Mexico is a cartel financed by the US government. Why is that kept secret?

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    This is an article from 2009

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