Thread: Bachmann: Census Could Send People to Camps

Bachmann: Census Could Send People to Camps

Friday, June 26, 2009 8:36 PM

By: Rick Pedraza

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., says Americans should refuse to comply with the Obama administration’s 2010 census because the data could be used for nefarious purposes, including the imprisonment of Americans in internment camps.

Appearing on Fox News, Bachmann said it was the census that allowed the internment of the Japanese during World War II. She also boasted about breaking the law in refusing to complete the census form she received.

“If we look at American history -- between 1942 and 1947 -- the data that was collected by the Census Bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations at the request of President Roosevelt,â€

I think the government should just hire Illegal Aliens and ACORN to fill out 300 million forms to get the answers that they want

I like that statement. Oh so true, what do they need our answers for.

Got this in an e-mail.......

How to be a useful idiot
Exclusive: Patrice Lewis offers constitutional response to census snoopers


Posted: June 27, 2009
1:00 am Eastern

By Patrice Lewis

My husband got the funniest e-mail a while ago. It said: "Official Business order #64587216Z5FE456J9. Cash Bailouts are Finally going out. Please register for your Official Stimulus package here: http://--- The sooner you register, the sooner you will likely receive your Stimulus Package."
I mean, honestly – what idiot would fall for this?
Or how about this one. I answer the phone and hear: "HOOOONKKK … This is your captain speaking!" The voice tells me I can win a cruise to the Bahamas for answering "10 simple questions." I've never answered the questions, of course, because I have no interest in being a useful idiot.
Nearly as amusing was a survey I received seeking my consumer purchasing preferences for a variety of products. Do I use adult diapers, for instance, and if so which brand? This survey went on for pages and queried me on everything from my musical tastes to my grocery shopping habits and preferred medications. I thought it hilarious that anyone could be idiotic enough to answer.
Or how about this piece of merriment? Another survey wants to know my household income, my educational level, how I get to work, what type of house I live in, how much it's worth, when it was built, how it's heated, what insurance I have, what languages I speak, how many children I have and everyone's physical, mental and emotional condition.
Ha ha. That's gotta be the funniest one yet. I hear 3 million people received this one.
Oh, wait a minute. This was the 2009 American Community Survey, which supplements the U.S. census. And all the answers I wouldn't reveal to anyone, much less the government, are required by law. Isn't that nice?
The original purpose of the census was for taxation and apportioning political representation. But according to a NY Post article, the intrusive information sought in the census is used by the government "to spread around your tax dollars and justify federal bureaucracies; it can also be distributed to private businesses." Private businesses!
How did the simple words of Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution ("Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States. … the actual Enumeration shall be made … every subsequent Term of ten Years. …") degenerate into … the number of toilets in our house? What on earth does this have to do with representation and taxation?
Answer: It doesn't. It has nothing whatever to do with apportionment. Just as our driver's licenses and Social Security numbers have deteriorated into government-issued identification papers, so has the census deteriorated into a massive, intrusive excuse to collect vast amounts of personal data.
The key words in the Constitution are "apportion" and "enumeration." You must enumerate (count) before you can apportion. Apportionment does not require knowing how long it takes you to get to work or what languages you speak, much less the bathroom specifics of your home. What kind of useful idiot would passively roll over and answer these questions?
People are routinely threatened with fines "up to $5,000" if they refuse to be useful idiots. And you can get fined up to $500 if you falsify any answers, so don't think you're being clever if you put your race as Martian or the number of bathrooms in your home at 83.
Ten years ago we wrote a cover letter to accompany our returned census, which said, "Pursuant to Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, we are hereby informing you there are four people in our household, two of whom are voting age." Naturally a census drone knocked on our door shortly thereafter and pressed us to answer the rest of the survey, an offer we politely declined. End of story.
To be sure, there are few lone politicians crying in the wilderness against this kind of invasive bullpoop. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, says, "One can only imagine the countless malevolent ways our federal bureaucrats could use this information. … The founders never authorized the federal government to continuously survey the American people. More importantly, they never envisioned a nation where the people would roll over and submit to every government demand. The American Community Survey is patently offensive to all Americans who still embody that fundamental American virtue, namely a healthy mistrust of government."
And Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann says the census questions have become "very intricate, very personal" and "the only question we will be answering is how many people are in our home. We won't be answering any information beyond that, because the Constitution doesn't require any information beyond that."
Shelly Lowe, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Census Bureau, said Mrs. Bachmann is "misreading" the law. She sent a portion of the U.S. legal code that says anyone over 18 years of age who refuses to answer "any of the questions" on the census form can be fined up to $5,000. HOOOONKKK.
But it appears Ms. Lowe is the one who is lying … er, misreading the law. Title 13, Chapter 7, Subchapter II, Section 221, Part (a) of the United States Code specifies: "Whoever … refuses or willfully neglects … to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title … shall be fined not more than $100."
That's $100, not $5,000. I'd say a little civil disobedience is worth a hundred bucks.
So where did this $5,000 figure come from? Looks like that penalty refers to the wrongful disclosure of information by a sworn census employee. That's it.
Remember these words: "Pursuant to Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, we are hereby informing you there are four people in our household, two of whom are voting age." Fill in your own numbers.
While I'm not suggesting everyone answer their census in the same way we are … I'm just wondering what would happen if 30 or 40 percent of the citizens in this country did.
Just sayin'.

Quite frankly, I've really been considering never being home when the ges.....errr,I mean census takers......yeah, that's it, census takers .....show up.

Or, they could just show up and find our house gone because it's a manufactured. Let them take a census count on a big empty nothing staring them in the face for all I care.

Or, we could simply decide to take our travel trailer and go camping for awhile.

We haven't decided yet.........

Michelle Bachmann is going a little bit nuts, IMO. What has happened in the past is not a guarantee it will happen again now, while lessons of the past are important.
And if Americans do not respond to the census, and the LaRaza gang will, we just lose more money to fund our schools, roads, etc.

With my email to my congressmen about voting against the Cap N Trade bill, I also in included this:

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ABSOLUTELY VOTE NO ON THE CAP AND TRADE BILL! (National Energy Tax, H.R. 2454). This is no more then an extremely high tax bill that will totally devastate our nation. This is not a request, but an order from one of your employers. (You know - We the People!)

This is it! - Will you stop the government from intruding into the peoples lives? Stop this before are country ends up as a communist nation under Comrade Obama!

Well you are at it, tell the white house we will not fill out that highly intrusive and unconstitutional, interrogation form, so-called, 2010 censes form.

I tell you what, I’ll give Obama one answer; “I will flush my toilet just one time! That is all that will be needed to flush his BS interrogation, so-called censes form.â€