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    Canada bans most carry-on luggage

    Canada bans most carry-on luggage

    By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer
    Monday, December 28, 2009 at 4:09 p.m.

    TORONTO — Canadian officials banned most carry-on luggage for U.S. bound passengers following a Christmas Day attack on a U.S. airliner.

    Transport Canada said Monday passengers may only carry medical devices, small purses, cameras, laptop computers, canes, walkers, diaper bags, musical instruments and bags containing "life-sustaining items."

    Transport Canada said in a statement they are trying to alleviate the backlog at security checkpoints. Police are now helping with security at the nation's airports after Transport Canada requested assistance.

    Authorities are also performing a secondary search of passengers after they pass the main security check point.

    It says the measures are expected to remain in place at for several days.

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    Thank you, Canada.
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    The guy had the bomb sewn into his underwear, so shouldn't they ban underwear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    The guy had the bomb sewn into his underwear, so shouldn't they ban underwear?
    Good ONE! LOL

    I'd be happy if they just banned terrorists with no passports, who pay in cash, have no luggage,
    and buy a one-way ticket.
    FED-EX is the best way to send your luggage and pick it up when you get there. That's what the expert on the travel channel says anyway......
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    Nigerian plane bomber bought tickets in Ghana - Yahoo! News
    Dec 28, 2009 ... Nigerian plane bomber bought tickets in Ghana ... Demuren said Monday that Abdulmutallab bought the $2831 round-trip ticket from Lagos, ...

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    Hah! Next thing you know we will all have to fly nude!
    From what I understand, the stuff in his underwear needed another component administered with a syringe, and the detenator failed. Not knowing anything about the explosive, there seem to be three components, one of which failed.
    Any expertise would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vortex
    Hah! Next thing you know we will all have to fly nude! 8O
    From what I understand, the stuff in his underwear needed another component administered with a syringe, and the detenator failed. Not knowing anything about the explosive, there seem to be three components, one of which failed.
    Any expertise would be appreciated.
    From The Wall Street Journal

    DECEMBER 29, 2009.

    A Primer in PETN

    By RON WINSLOW

    PETN, the explosive that nearly doomed Northwest Airlines Flight 253 in Detroit on Christmas Day, is a white powder that can deliver powerful blasts in quantities as small as tenths or hundredths of a pound.

    But generally, it can't be lit with a match or otherwise set off without using a detonator or mixing it with a chemical to cause an explosion.

    WSJ's Ron Winslow tells the News Hub's Simon Constable more about pentaerythritol tetranitrate, or PETN, the chemical that was allegedly used to try and blow up an an airplane on Christmas Day.

    "It's a high explosive; it's one of the more sensitive things to handle," said Jimmie Carol Oxley, co-director of the Center of Excellence In Explosives Detection, Mitigation, Response and Characterization at the University of Rhode Island, Kingston. "But it doesn't initiate with a flame."

    Her view, consistent with initial reports from investigators of the incident, is that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian accused of trying to blow up the plane, "was looking for a chemical reaction that would be hot enough to initiate" the PETN and cause it to explode. "It's not impossible, but it's not easy either and it obviously didn't work for him," Prof. Oxley said.

    Mr. Abdulmutallab allegedly was carrying a syringe with liquid believed to be an agent he was mixing with PETN to cause it to explode. Unlike a detonator such as a blasting cap, a syringe and PETN are very difficult to detect with X-ray equipment commonly used at airport security checkpoints.

    Residue from the powder, though, is easily detectable with swabs that security personnel often use to wipe off briefcases, luggage and other personal items taken through checkpoints. Prof. Oxley has done research indicating PETN residue can be detected in human hair.

    "We've been very successful looking at people's hair as evidence that they're handling explosives," she said. "That's not a common screening tool used in the airport."

    PETN, or pentaerythritol tetranitrate, is made by numerous manufacturers, many of them small, in the U.S. and abroad. The powder is suspected in other terrorist attacks, including the failed attempt in 2001 by Richard Reid to blow up a jetliner over the Atlantic Ocean with explosives hidden in his shoes.

    PETN is also a common legal explosive, used by the military as well as industries such as mining, where it is mostly used in detonator cord or in devices to ignite another compound. In addition to powder, the material is manufactured in thin plasticized sheets.

    Regulations in the U.S. and many other countries make it difficult to buy PETN and other explosives off the shelf. In the U.S., the ability to purchase PETN and other explosives is regulated by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, as well as some state agencies, which issue permits or licenses for their purchase.

    But, Prof. Oxley noted, chemicals used to make PETN are more readily available. While rules vary from country to country, in the U.S. "we could acquire the chemicals to make it ourselves," she said.

    Write to Ron Winslow at ron.winslow@wsj.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    Nigerian plane bomber bought tickets in Ghana - Yahoo! News
    Dec 28, 2009 ... Nigerian plane bomber bought tickets in Ghana ... Demuren said Monday that Abdulmutallab bought the $2831 round-trip ticket from Lagos, ...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091228/ap_ ... ack_ticket
    Hum, the news said he had a one-way ticket............?

    But the news is just starting to report something I and probably others here knew two days ago! I should not know stuff before they do. It is maddening and I shout at my TV over their lack of knowledge of some news. Like about the guy tht helped him get on the plane with no passport saying he was from Sudan and they never have passports and are let on.
    Today is the first time I've heard MSNBC or FOX report that.
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    Nigerian Bomber Page5

    Nigerian Bomber or CIA False Flag? Main Forum. ... He had a passport. Do not believe the crazies. He even had a US visa. ...

    www.engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?p=3018216

    "The suspect had a shoulder bag and went through the normal check-in process with his passport and U.S. visa scanned, Demuren said Sunday. The multiple-entry U.S. visa was issued in London, England, in June 2008 with an expiration date of June 2010, Demuren said."

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    Thanks, JD2. So you mix something from tube A with something from tube B, but you get an explosion instead of epoxy.
    And WA, you are right. A husband and wife attorney team getting on the plane noticed a well dressed man talking this guy onto the plane without a passport. I also heard that that the punk had a multiple-entry visa into this country.
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