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    China preparing to ‘team up with Russia in Syria’

    China preparing to ‘team up with Russia in Syria’: Report

    BY AT EDITOR on OCTOBER 9, 2015 in ASIA TIMES NEWS & FEATURES

    (From the Express)

    CHINA could be on the verge of teaming up with Russia to unleash its military might in Syria and destroy Islamic State. Rumors of Chinese carrier deployment.


    By Rob Virtue

    Russia has carried out a series of deadly airstrikes against the terrorist group over the last few days and Vladimir Putin has now sent the country’s most elite special forces team into the war zone.

    And speculation is heightening that offensive will be bolstered by the China’s People’s Liberation Army, following a number of reports of military movements in the region backed up by strong words from a senior government member at a United Nations meeting.


    Reports emanating from the Middle East last week said China was planning on joining the fight against ISIS “in the coming weeks”, according to a Syrian army official.


    While Beijing insists it will abide by the United Nations (UN) in the region, hints of an action were backed up when it spoke strongly about a coordinated response to the rising terrorist threat.


    Speaking of the Syrian crisis China’s foreign minister Wang Yi said at the UN Security Council session in New York: “The world cannot afford to stand by and look on with folded arms, but must also not arbitrarily interfere.”


    He added that nations should stand united against “violent extremist ideology”.


    Mr Wang and his opposite number in Russia, Sergey Lavrov met at length last week and afterwards Mr Lavrov said the two countries are in “similar positions” on many domestic and international issues.


    China has also shown solidarity with Syria, joining Russia in vetoeing UN proposals against Bashar al-Assad, which are likely to prevent him being referred by the council to the International Criminal Court.


    The latest actions at the UN conference have come amid reports, citing key military sources, Chinese warships have made their way to Syrian shores through the Suez Canal.


    Chinese carrier Liaoning

    It was said China’s J-15 warplanes would launch from an aircraft carrier for attacks on ISIS.


    Russian media followed that up by quoting Igor Morozov, a member of the Russian Federation Committee on International Affairs, confirming Chinese aircraft carrier, Lianoning, and a guided missile cruiser were heading to the area, and adding Chinese military advisers were already in the region.


    Mr Morozov said: “It is known that China has joined our military operation in Syria.

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    http://atimes.com/2015/10/china-prep...-syria-report/
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    Chinese, Russian, and NATO Warships Maneuver Off Syria

    9 September 2013




    The Jinggangshan, a 689-foot-long warship, has just cleared the Suez Canal and is now patrolling the eastern Mediterranean. Unconfirmed reports place other Chinese vessels in the area.

    Beijing says its ships are heading to Syria’s coast merely to “observe” American and Russian vessels, but a less benign interpretation is that the Jinggangshan is there to augment the Russian fleet and intimidate the US Navy.

    This sleek-looking Chinese amphibious-landing vessel can carry a battalion of marines and was used earlier this year to stare down the smaller nations surrounding the South China Sea, an area Beijing is trying to close off to other countries.


    Each day brings new reports of warships converging on the eastern Mediterranean. US ships are now backed up by French and Italian ones and face the Russian and Chinese navies.


    Everyone assumes Russian President Vladimir Putin is just posturing, but his words are increasingly confrontational. He is now saying Russia will back Damascus if the US attacks. “Will we help Syria?” he asks. “We will.”


    That help is taking on a military dimension. Along with all the current Russian deployments revealed in the last several days, there was an announcement that Moscow will be sending its only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, to Syrian waters in the next few months. When it arrives, Russia’s carrier will be the largest combatant in the eastern Mediterranean.


    Most everyone assumes the Russians and Chinese will be content to watch the US Navy and other NATO forces pound their ally Syria into rubble.
    Yet there could be more to this.

    Increasingly nationalistic leaders in Moscow and Beijing must sense President Obama is indecisive, and that could tempt them to try to push him around. Autocrats often pounce when they perceive democracies to be weak. You can, for instance, almost draw a straight line between John F. Kennedy’s disastrous summit with Nikita Khrushchev in Vienna in June 1961 to the Soviet adventurism that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis in the following year.


    Are we now hearing sound and fury signifying nothing? For many, it is inconceivable that the world’s major powers could get tangled up in conflict, but as Enoch Powell, the British politician, told us, “History is littered with wars which everybody knew would never happen.”


    This time, unfortunately, has striking parallels to 1914. Then, like now, the structure of the international system was extremely complex and the situation on the ground especially confusing. There are, as then, too many variables for national leaders to manage well. For instance, it is not clear how nations will align themselves in the event something goes wrong. We could see, as happened 99 years ago, alliances come together unexpectedly and then clash.

    The Chinese and the Russians seem to be acting in concert on Syria and may end up forming a durable partnership.


    The precondition for war is the marshalling of military assets, and that, unfortunately, is now happening in the waters off Syria.

    http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/b...maneuver-syria
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    Russia has more problems, militarily, than Putin would care to admit...



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    Russia and China and all the nations have sat back and waited for the US to solve problems, like we used to do during WWII. We are not that same nation any more. So, Russia and China will take care of this problem. I have absolutely no problem with that at all. They are doing US a huge favor.
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    EU Criticizes Russia's Military Moves in Syria

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESSOCT. 12, 2015, 8:18 A.M. E.D.T.

    LUXEMBOURG — European Union nations on Monday criticized Russia's military intervention in Syria, with the bloc's top diplomat calling it a worrying "game changer." But EU countries maintained Moscow's efforts wouldn't keep President Bashar Assad in power.

    EU foreign ministers warned Moscow to center its military actions in Syria on the Islamic State group and not go after the moderate opposition at the same time.


    "It has to be coordinated" among the U.S., the EU and Russia, EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said of the attacks in Syria. "Otherwise it risks being extremely dangerous, not only from a political point of view, but mainly from a military point of view."


    Russian airstrikes have backed moves by Syrian troops against insurgents in the center of the country, but President Vladimir Putin has said Russian efforts would help reach a political settlement.


    Countering this, the EU ministers said in a statement that "this military escalation risks prolonging the conflict, undermining a political process, aggravating the humanitarian situation and increasing radicalization."


    France's Europe Minister Harlem Desir said that Assad couldn't be part of a solution to the conflict and the conclusions of the EU ministerial meeting said that "there cannot be a lasting peace in Syria under the present leadership."


    The statement left it in the middle what, if any role, Assad could have as the nation is seeking a political transition to end the war.


    "There will be no peace in Syria if Bashar Assad, who is responsible for most victims of this civil war, can stay," Desir said.


    Britain agreed on the final outcome for Assad.


    "We are very clear that we cannot work with Assad as the long-term solution for the future of Syria," EU Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said.


    "We can be flexible about the manner of his departure. We can be flexible about the timing of his departure but if we try to work with Assad, we will only drive the opposition into the arms of (Islamic State) — the very opposite of the outcome that we want."


    Even if France didn't want Assad represented in Syria's moves toward peace, others saw his position as inevitable, especially with Russian backing.


    "It's not about who we like and who we don't like," Slovakian Foreign Minister Miroslav Lajcak said. "It's about who is relevant and who is not. And as of today, he definitely is relevant," he said of Assad.


    And German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier acknowledged that "the position and importance of individual actors has changed. With Russia's involvement, much has changed."


    "There is no question that the efforts to arrive at a political solution have become more difficult and more complex," he said.


    Mogherini said that "it is for sure a game changer. It has some very worrying elements."

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...ddle-east.html

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