Thread: GOP leaders in advanced talks to change tax plan in bid to win over holdouts

GOP leaders in advanced talks to change tax plan in bid to win over holdouts

By Damian Paletta November 26 at 2:14 PM

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) is surrounded by reporters as he goes to vote on Capitol Hill in Washington. (Susan Walsh/AP)

Senate Republicans are seriously considering several last-minute changes to their tax legislation in an effort to mollify wavering members, four people familiar with the discussions said, as GOP leaders seek to keep their members from defecting ahead of crucial votes this week.

The lawmakers attracting the most concern from leadership and the White House are Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Steve Daines (R-Mont.), who say the current version of the bill favors corporations over other businesses.

There are numerous members demanding changes, and their needs don’t all overlap. Together, the requests put Republican leaders in a difficult position, as they attempt to accommodate individual holdouts on a one-off basis without losing other members or creating a situation in which the bill collapses under the weight of disparate demands.Adding to the leaders’ difficulty, the total size of the tax plan cannot be more than $1.5 trillion over a decade, so adding new benefits could force Republicans to find ways to raise additional revenue. Presently, they only have roughly $80 billion in wiggle room to use, a small sum because many of the changes would be spread out over 10 years.

The four people spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the internal discussions.

The maneuverings come at a pivotal time for congressional Republicans and the Trump administration. They are trying to rush the tax bill through Congress and into law in part to make up for months of failed legislative efforts. Republicans haven’t held any hearings with outside experts to solicit input on the broad impacts of the legislation aside from testimony by Thomas Barthold, chief of staff at the Joint Committee on Taxation.

The bills, as they make their way through Congress, would impact the taxes paid by virtually every American family and business. The Senate bill would also repeal the individual mandate requirement in the Affordable Care Act, potentially having an immediate impact on penalties, insurance premiums, and health insurance decisions for millions of Americans.

Johnson and Daines want changes to the bill they believe would help certain companies that file through the individual income tax code. These companies, often known as “pass-throughs,” can be small businesses but also include larger firms with many employees. There are millions of such companies in the United States, and they account for the bulk of U.S. firms.

Currently, in the Senate bill, these companies are allowed to deduct 17.4 percent of their income from their tax liability. Negotiators are looking at expanding that credit up to about 20 percent, two of the people said.

It’s unclear if Johnson would accept these changes as sufficient, and a final decision hasn’t been made. If Republican leaders believe Johnson’s demands have become too unreasonable, they could try and forge ahead without his vote.

Spokesmen for Johnson and Daines didn’t have an immediate comment on the discussions.

There are 52 Republicans in the 100-seat Senate, and GOP leaders can only afford to lose two votes if they want to pass their bill because Democrats are expected to unite in opposition against it. Typically, tax bills require 60 votes in order to clear procedural hurdles, but Republicans are trying to pass the package through a process known as “reconciliation” that only requires a majority of votes.

At least six GOP members have raised concerns about specific provisions in the GOP tax bill, though none has flatly said they plan to vote against it this week. Johnson came closest, saying he opposed the measure but later suggesting he could support it with changes.

Senate Republicans have received criticism because their tax plan does not allow individuals, families, and pass-through companies to deduct their state and local taxes from their taxable income. The tax plan does allow firms that pay corporate income taxes to deduct their state and local taxes.
To create more parity, negotiators are considering putting new curbs on the ability of corporations to deduct state and local taxes from their income. The money this change frees up could be used for other tax benefits for companies.

Senate Republicans are also seriously considering a change requested by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), which would allow Americans to deduct $10,000 in local property taxes from their taxable income. This provision was in a bill that passed the House of Representatives, but it is not in the Senate bill.

Though Collins has voiced the most concerns about its absence, other members have quietly said they also want the change to be made.

Making this change could cost more than $100 billion over 10 years and would probably require Republicans to find new money to offset it.

The changes could be made — or attempted to be made — over the course of the week.

Voting on the tax measure is scheduled to begin Tuesday, as the Senate Budget Committee plans to take a procedural step that afternoon that would effectively send the tax bill to the Senate floor. But Johnson is on the budget panel, and he could demand changes by Tuesday in order to win his vote. If he blocks the tax bill in the Budget Committee and is joined by Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who has raised separate concerns, the package could quickly die.

The tax package is a combination of changes for companies and individuals that would lower rates in a way Republicans say would lead to more growth and hiring. But Democrats have said the tax changes are uneven, offering long-term benefits for companies and the wealthy and temporary tax cuts for individuals and families. It would add between $1.4 trillion and $1.5 trillion to the debt over 10 years, budget forecasters have said, though Democrats and Republicans differ over how much economic growth the plan would trigger.

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GOP’s tax bill cancels $23 billion in credits claimed by illegal immigrants

Child Tax Credit for illegal immigrants

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GOP’s tax bill cancels $23 billion in credits claimed by illegal immigrants


Child Tax Credit for illegal immigrants

No mention of illegal immigrant tax credits in article that started thread.

Ill read in on this more in the morning. Thanks for posting.

DACA will still be used as bargaining chip in any legislation. The tax credits claimed by illegal aliens must be ended not just talked about.

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Senate committee advances GOP tax bill, moving closer to floor vote

• The Senate Budget Committee advances the Republican tax bill.
• In a party-line vote, the GOP moved one step closer to a floor vote later this week.
• Bob Corker and Ron Johnson, who had concerns about the bill, voted to advance it.

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Published 1 Hour Ago Updated 16 Mins AgoCNBC.com

Senate Budget Committee advances tax bill 18 Mins Ago | 01:37

The Senate Budget Committee on Tuesday approved the Republican tax bill, a crucial procedural step toward a vote in the full chamber later this week.

With the party-line 12-11 vote to advance the plan, Republicans overcame one possible roadblock in their push to chop tax rates for businesses and individuals by the end of the year.

Two GOP members of the panel had separate concerns that threatened to upend the bill's momentum. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., wants a "trigger" to raise revenues should the bill's economic growth effects not go far enough to make up for the nearly $1.5 trillion in estimated tax cuts over 10 years. The senator had fears about expanding budget deficits.

Corker backed the proposal after reportedly reaching the outline of a deal for such a backstop.

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Sen. Bob Corker, R-TN

Meanwhile, Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., sought to further reduce the tax burden on pass-through businesses, which pay individual rates. He argued that those businesses got worse treatment under the plan than corporations, which would see their tax rate chopped to 20 percent from 35 percent.
Both senators ended up voting to advance the bill.

Senators going to the hearing were greeted by protesters shouting "Shame!" and "Kill the bill!"

Republican Senate leaders want to pass the plan later this week. As it holds 52 seats, the GOP can lose only two votes and still approve the bill under special budget rules, assuming all Democrats and independents oppose it.



Shortly before the vote, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell called it a "challenging exercise" to get enough support to pass the bill.

"Think of sitting there with a Rubik's Cube trying to get to 50 [votes]," the Kentucky Republican told reporters. "And we do have a few members who have concerns and we're trying to address them. And we know we will not be able to go forward until we get 50 people satisfied, and that's what we're working on."

The Senate proposal would temporarily cut many individual income taxes while permanently reducing the corporate rate. It would also change or eliminate some popular deductions.

Multiple other senators have expressed similar concerns to those of Corker and Johnson.

In a statement after the vote, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the White House is "encouraged by the progress the Senate has made" toward trimming taxes.

"The president looks forward to providing tax cuts for hardworking Americans by the end of the year," she said.

At a Senate GOP lunch earlier in the day, President Donald Trump"underscored the importance" of passing a tax bill, according to McConnell.

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