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    Government Bans Bacon on Federal Prison Menus, Adds Turkey Substitute

    Sounds like they are kow towing to the Muslims to me. That is the only group of people that I have ever heard of that doesn't like BACON.

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    Government Bans Bacon on Federal Prison Menus, Adds Turkey Substitute

    Inmate don’t like taste, feds say

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    BY: Morgan Chalfant
    October 9, 2015 1:10 pm


    The federal government has removed bacon, pork chops, ham, and all other pig products from the menu at its 122 federal prisons, impacting the nation’s 206,000 federal inmates.

    The Washington Post reported that the ban went into effect when the new fiscal year began last week. According to the Bureau of Prisons, the decision was made after surveys revealed that inmates do not like the taste of pork. The bureau runs the country’s federal penitentiaries, which includes providing inmates with three meals per day.

    “Why keep pushing food that people don’t want to eat? Pork has been the lowest-rated food by inmates for several years,” Edmond Ross, spokesman for the Bureau of Prisons, said. He added that pork products have also become more expensive.

    While federal prisons no longer serve pork, their menus have added an “economically viable” turkey bacon substitute in fiscal year 2016, a result of people becoming “more health conscious,” Ross explained.

    “People are more health conscious these days. Some people choose to be vegetarian or vegan. That’s their preference,” the spokesman stated.

    Pork producers are pushing back on the decision.

    “I find it hard to believe that a survey would have found a majority of any population saying, ‘No thanks, I don’t want any bacon,’” Dave Warner, spokesman for the National Pork Producers Council, said. “We’re going to find out how this came about and go from there. We wouldn’t rule out any options to resolve this.”

    Warner claimed that the trade association representing the country’s hog farmers, “is still formulating our strategy” to combat the ban.

    “Not to throw beef under the bus, but we cost a lot less than beef,” Warner said.
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    The Muslims have been recruiting in our prison system for years with the government's blessing.

    Islamic Religious Groups Jockey for Prison Access As Concerns Over Inmate Terrorism Grow

    9th October 2015


    That sentiment doesn't come from Attorney General John Ashcroft or the FBI, although it well could have.

    It came from a prisoner - a Muslim prisoner - whose letters from a federal penitentiary were obtained by CQ/Homeland Security on condition that the author not be identified. More than 13,000 federal prisoners claim allegiance to some form of Islam. UntiSept. 11, 2001, few people cared much about their religious preferences or the prison chaplains who served them. Now, they do.

    Militant Muslim prison organizing has not only raised the ire of Shiite and moderate Sunni Muslim prisoners but caught the attention of U.S. counterterrorism officials, and now Congress, which will hold the first of a series of hearings Thursday. Some Muslim organizations, however, have been concerned about militant Islamic organizing behind bars for a decade. The agents of influence are clerics from the Wahhabi branch of Islam, the faith officially sanctioned by the Saudi royal family and associated with Osama bin Laden.

    "In these prisons it is hard to come across authentic Islamic books," wrote one prisoner two years ago, "because the Wahhabism dominates the prisons with their possenous [sic] books." Wahhabism, also known as Salafi - the term "Wahhabi" is considered offensive by many members of the sect - dominates federal Muslim prison chaplaincies in the U.S., according to many sources.

    Hedieh Mirahmadi, director of public affairs for the anti-extremist Islamic Supreme Council of America, says she's been fielding prisoner complaints like the one above for 10 years. One prisoner asked the leader of a Muslim organization to raise "the issue of miseducation of Muslims in prisons and the right we have to be taught traditional Islamic doctrine."
    Another prisoner complained that a fellow convict who was schooled in Wahhabi extremism was transferred, leaving the rest of the Muslim population vulnerable to Salafi/Wahhabi influence.

    "That brother had lots of knowledge to keep the Salafis in check, now that he's gone it's gotten crazy!" "Whoever gets there first," said Mirahmadi, "wins" the battle for Muslin hearts and minds. And Muslim extremists got to U.S. prisons first a long time ago, she says. There, some teach a hatred of the United States akin to that preached by Osama bin Laden.
    Mirahmadi's organization, which represents itself as a purveyor of "classical" Islam, hopes to see more Sunni and Shiite chaplains adding "religious diversity" to the prisons.

    In New York, four Shiite prisoners filed a lawsuit, now on appeal in district court, saying their rights had been violated by the state prison system. They complained that prison officials and Wahhabi chaplains had denied them access to literature and teaching in line with their beliefs.

    In recent years, the only two organizations certifying Muslim clerics for federal prison service have been Wahhabi-related: the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences (SISS) in Leesburg, Va., and the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), based in Plainfield, Ind.

    The SISS is still under investigation in connection with the 2002 Customs search for terrorist funding ties, dubbed Operation Green Quest. ISNA, which is affiliated with Hartford Seminary's training program for Muslim chaplains, will hold its sixth annual conference on Islam in U.S. prisons July 4 weekend in Dallas, Texas.

    The Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) says other Muslim organizations are free to sponsor chaplains - they just haven't done it. But Mirahmadi said certifying chaplains isn't as simple as they say.

    Wahhabist Web

    The SISS and ISNA don't state a Wahhabi affiliation on their Web sites. But they are affiliated nonetheless, said Stephen Schwartz, senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a nonprofit Washington-based terrorism research organization.
    Schwartz will testify before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security on Thursday.

    Schwartz, a Sunni Muslim, has published a guide to Muslim organizations operating in North America. He said "the court has been lax in its oversight" of these organizations. "SISS represents an extremist ideology being taught in our prison system," said Schwartz, who suggested the BOP change its chaplain hiring process. "We don't feel that this is a good policy for the security of the U.S."

    A spokesman for SISS was not available for comment.

    The ISNA is just trying to contribute to the American chaplaincy as it evolves, said Ingrid Mattson, who serves a dual role as director of Hartford Seminary's training program for Muslim chaplains and vice president of ISNA.

    "The Muslim community hasn't developed criteria for who can be endorsed as a Muslim chaplain," Mattson said, adding that she hadn't heard of other organizations in the endorsing arena besides her own and SISS.

    Muslim clerics aren't used to thinking of the chaplaincy as a separate profession, she said.
    "We try to clarify that the role of a chaplain" is to help "people of all faiths," Mattson said.

    "What I teach the chaplains is, their role is not to be an enforcer of a particular position within the Muslim community."

    Islamic Communities

    Though many have expressed concern about the role of the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences and the Islamic Society of North America as the only organizations endorsing federal Muslim chaplains, the Bureau of Prisons says other groups just haven't applied to challenge them.

    "Other national religious groups have the opportunity to serve as endorsers," said a BOP statement in response to repeated inquiries. "However, at this time, only two [ISNA and GSISS] have completed the appropriate documentation to serve in this role." Because applicants name their own endorsers, those from other Muslim groups could have the same opportunity, the statement said.

    "At the request of Islamic candidates, we requested general endorsement information from another organization on two occasions, but the documents were not returned," the BOP said.

    This illustrates a responsibility that lies with Islamic organizations, said Paul Rogers, president of the American Correctional Chaplains' Association.
    "It's an Islamic community issue," Rogers said. "There might be some political and religious infighting in the Muslim community."

    But Mirahmadi said her experience has contradicted BOP's stance.

    "It's not as simple as filling out a form," said Mirahmadi, who has worked trying to place Sunni and Shiite chaplains. "To be able to prove that you're being discriminated against is very difficult," she added.

    A Civil Action

    While the Muslim community irons out the meaning of a chaplain, some prisoners on the inside say they're facing discrimination.

    Schwartz's foundation has filed an amicus brief on behalf of four Shiite prisoners in the New York state prison system.

    The inmates, whose suit is on appeal and scheduled for oral arguments July 14, are seeking prayer services and literature congruent with their beliefs.
    Earlier, the court had said prison policies were sufficient to accommodate all Muslims and had told the state prison system to watch for discrimination against the Shi'a.

    The results were not satisfactory, said the prisoners' attorney, Andrew Kent, because the differences between the sects can't be underestimated.
    "You can't compare this to Baptist and Lutheran," Kent said, likening the doctrinal divide more to that between Catholics and Protestants.

    In fact, Schwartz said, Wahhabis often call Shiites members of a "Jewish conspiracy."

    Kent said he doesn't foresee constitutional obstacles to granting Shiite prisoners their own services. "I don't think it's quite as tricky as the prison officials want you to think," Kent said. "The prison system has not worked with us constructively on this. They've just been challenging us in court." That, however, is on the state level - where selection and monitoring of chaplains is anything but uniform. In the federal system, a selection process is already in place that includes criminal background checks, educational requirements, ministry experience and endorsement from a recognized religious body.

    Threat Matrix

    Meanwhile, the FBI is interested in the prison chaplaincy as a possible recruiting platform for militant extremists. The bureau is developing a handbook on spotting terrorist recruitment efforts in prisons, said spokesman John Iannarelli.

    Members of Congress have also expressed interest in a review of federal prison policies.

    Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., urged an "immediate investigation" in a March letter to the Justice Department's inspector general. "It is disturbing that organizations with possible terrorist connections and religious teachings contrary to American pluralistic values hold the sole responsibility for Islamic instruction in our federal prisons," Schumer wrote. The Justice Department would "neither confirm nor deny" that an inquiry is under way.

    More recently, Rep. Howard Coble, R-N.C., chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security, addressed an inquiry to Bureau of Prisons Director Harley Lappin with a response requested by June 25.

    "What standards does the BOP use to ensure that prisons are not being used to spread Islamic extremism and terrorism?" Coble asked. "What additional tools does the BOP need to prevent these persons from entering the prisons?" The Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security, chaired by Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl, will begin to address these issues Thursday in a hearing titled "Growing Wahhabi Influence in the United States."

    Another hearing, titled "Recruitment of Terrorists in Prison," is yet unscheduled but may come in early July, committee aides say.
    - See more at: http://www.defenddemocracy.org/media....TGx0XGEs.dpuf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Sounds like they are kow towing to the Muslims to me. That is the only group of people that I have ever heard of that doesn't like BACON . . .
    Religious restrictions on the consumption of pork - Wikipedia

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    Personally I don't think we should provide them any meat. Pasta is very high in protein. Pasta, vegetables and applesauce. That's it. That way no one's "religion" is offended by the prison menu.

    And PIGS LIVE! They're so cute.

    Plus if you eliminate meat from the menu, the prisons will be much cleaner with no grease clogged pipes and so forth plus the sewage itself would be much cleaner and less costly to process and dispose of. Plus an all vegetarian diet would reduce medical expenses for prisoners. We need to take all these matters into account.
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    After firestorm, pork roast is back on the menu at federal prisons

    By Lisa Rein October 16


    (Matthew Mead/AP)

    This story has been updated.


    After a week of controversy surrounding its abrupt removal of pork dishes from the national menu for federal inmates, the government did an about-face Thursday and put pork roast back on the prison bill of fare.


    The Bureau of Prisons disclosed the decision to The Washington Post hours after a Republican Senate leader expressed dismay at what he implied was a wasteful survey of inmates’ food preferences and a lack of transparency in the decision.


    [Finally, the government has decided to eliminate pork — from federal prisons]


    “The pork industry is responsible for 547,800 jobs, which creates $22.3 billion in personal incomes and contributes $39 billion to the gross domestic product,” Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said in a letter to Bureau of Prisons Director Charles E. Samuels Jr.


    “The United States is the world’s largest exporter of pork, and the third largest producer of pork,” Grassley said, warning that the “unprecedented” decision to remove pork from federal prisons would “have consequences on the livelihoods of American citizens who work in the pork industry.”


    Grassley is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which oversees the federal prison system.


    The new pork policy has affected 206,000 federal inmates since it started Oct. 1 with the new fiscal year. It was widely panned by, not surprisingly, the pork industry, a not-insignificant lobbying force in Washington. It was praised by the chicken and beef industries, natural competitors to pork.

    Muslim groups feared a backlash from anti-Islam groups that could spin the decision into a case of the federal government acting under pressure from Muslims — and some did.


    Edmond Ross, a spokesman for the prison bureau, could not explain what prompted the government’s quick turnaround.

    “I’m not cleared to say anything, and I don’t have answers for you,” he said late Thursday. An explanation from senior prison officials could come Friday, he said.


    Ross had explained earlier this month that based on annual surveys of inmates’ food preferences, pork lost its appeal in the prison system years ago. In the past two years, the menu had dropped from bacon, pork chops and sausages to just one dish with the ingredient: pork roast, the entree now back on federal prison dining halls.


    Ross also blamed the ban on what he called the growing cost of pork. But Grassley was skeptical. He wrote:

    “According to a spokesman for the Bureau of Prisons, the decision was based on a survey of prisoners’ food preferences that reflected that pork has been the ‘lowest-rated food’ by inmates for a number of years.
    To corroborate the validity of the claim that prisoners indicated a lack of interest in pork products, I am requesting copies of the prisoner surveys and responses that were used to support the determination to no longer serve pork in federal prisons. Additionally, the spokesman indicated that pork had been the lowest rated food, ‘for several years.’ Please supply the surveys and responses dating back as far as prisoners may have indicated their dislike for pork products. In addition, please provide a line item description of the costs incurred to conduct each survey performed.The Bureau of Prisons spokesman indicated that pork was expensive to provide. Please provide any economic evaluations the Bureau of Prisons has relied on that detail the cost of pork as compared to beef, chicken, and non-meat products such as tofu and soy products.”

    The National Pork Producers Council, the Washington-based trade association that represents the nation’s hog farmers, had pledged this month that it would not “rule out any options to resolve this” and was busy formulating a strategy to fight the prison pork ban.


    Federal officials had said that the ban on pork was not influenced by objection from Muslim inmates. But some Muslim groups reported receiving angry e-mails and social media posting following the decision.


    “That this manufactured issue is even a controversy,” Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said in an e-mailed statement, “is a clear indicator of the rise in Islamophobic conspiracy theories fueled by those who seek to demonize Islam and to marginalize American Muslims based on bigotry and misinformation.”


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    Too bad - pigs are smarter than a dog or horse, akin to a 3yr old human child, can play video games, turn the heat up or down in barns but not so in cruel factory farms. The conditions are such, the females are in gestation crates their entire lives unable to stand or turn around. When time for birth, they remove her and kick her down the isle to the birth room, snatch the babies and throw her back into the gestation crate. When she is all done with reproducing, she's killed. Why would anyone want to eat pork that is raised by the cruel inhumane animal agriculture industry? They are filled with antibiotics which you get by eating that meat and viruses due to overcrowded conditions. There are plenty of wild hogs loose but they are so fierce, takes a real sharp hunter to get them before they get you.

    Americans eat too much animal meat because the industry pushes it on us for increased profits; look how they complained @ changing prison diets, it is all $$ to them. Those workers can work in other food industries too. More vegetables on your plate is healthier. Sweet potatoes have plenty of protein and lentils, mung beans, brown rice combine for a complete protein and can be conveniently cooked together.

    Years ago, people ate meat when there was a kill - not 3x a day, 7 days a week. When Hitler invaded other European countries, they took the farm animals for the soldiers and people were forced to eat a plant based diet and records show dramatic decrease in cardiovascular issues, heart attack and stroke. Bill Clinton follows plant based to keep his veins unclogged.

    In patients with heart disease, eating a plant-based diet for three months altered the activity of genes involved with artery inflammation and damage. In that study, the patients who followed a plant-based diet demonstrated the turning off of genes favoring inflammation and artery damage, and the turning on of genes favoring healing and health. Just enlarging your fruit and vegetable consumption and decreasing animal products will definitely help your cardio system too.

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