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    Gun owners go 'Gandhi' in New York with plans for mass civil disobedience over Cuomo'

    Gun owners go 'Gandhi' in New York with plans for mass civil disobedience over Cuomo's tyrannical gun grab

    (NaturalNews) On the face of it, there is absolutely no sense to the idea that one million New York gun owners should be declared "guilty" because one crazy man went nuts in Connecticut and committed mass murder. Yet that's the argument Gov. Cuomo used to rush through gun registration and confiscation legislation that's now law in the state of New York.

    The law was forced through the state legislature with such speed that it instantly turned all of New York's police officers into felony criminals because they were carrying more than the allowed seven rounds of ammo per magazine. Retroactive changes to the law had to be hurriedly made to exclude law enforcement from imminent arrest and prosecution by the "mafia" Cuomo administration. Cuomo meant for his unconstitutional attack to target so-called "civilians," not law enforcement!

    But now, those citizens are increasingly saying "F&%# YOU, CUOMO" (literally, see below) and announcing they are not going to register their guns under Cuomo's tyrannical, illegitimate and blatantly illegal regime.

    "Mass resistance" plans underway

    Gun owners are "going Gandhi" in New York and planning mass civil disobedience to protest the actions of the criminal mafia known as the Cuomo administration.

    "Gun owners and even some lawmakers are planning what has been dubbed potentially the largest act of civil disobedience in state history," reports The New American. "Preparations are already being made for mass resistance."

    What form will that resistance take? It may start as an info war, and then escalate into protests. But if Cuomo does not relent and repeal his unconstitutional, illegal and immoral mandate against law-abiding gun owners, there is a good chance this conflict may "go hot" and lead will start flying.

    "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington

    It is every New Yorker's duty to resist tyranny

    Let me state on the record that it is not merely a right to resist unlawful tyranny, but it is your DUTY to resist it and fight back via morally-justifiable means to restore constitutional law and the Bill of Rights in America. Anything less is a betrayal to the principles of America.

    Any state government which would attempt to oppress the constitutional rights of its citizens and disarm them, making them absolutely defenseless against criminals and runaway government tyranny, is an illegitimate, unlawful government being run by criminals. That government must be thrown out of power and replaced with a legitimate, law-abiding government that honors the rights of citizens (and the limits of power placed on government).

    On this issue, New Yorkers have declared their line in the sand. One million New Yorkers own firearms, and relatively few of them plan to comply with Cuomo's gun registration plans, knowing full well that registration is just the first step to forced confiscation.

    After all, why would the state of New York need to know who owns all the guns if it wasn't planning to do something with that list? Throughout world history, gun registration lists have almost always become gun confiscation lists where governments go door to door with armed troops, demanding at gunpoint that people turn in the firearms they previously registered.

    (Seriously, you'd have to be a complete idiot to comply with Cuomo's gun-grabbing scheme. Do you really want Cuomo's mafia goon squads to know exactly what guns you own and where you keep them?)

    From The New American:

    "They're saying, 'F--- the governor! F--- Cuomo! We're not going to register our guns,' and I think they're serious. People are not going to do it. People are going to resist," explained State Rifle and Pistol Association President Tom King

    Gandhi believed in armed defense against tyranny

    Gandhi is perhaps best known as a pacifist who helped stage mass civil disobedience in the face of the imperial occupation of his nation by enemy forces (the British). But what is not well known is that Gandhi was only a pacifist because his people had been disarmed by the occupying British military. Had Gandhi's countrymen possessed arms, they would have fought back against the British empire's illegal and imperial occupation many years earlier.

    "I do believe that where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence I would advise violence," Gandhi wrote in his famous work, Doctrine of the Sword.

    He goes on to say:

    I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor.

    Never heard these quotes from Gandhi? That's because you've been taught a false history on Gandhi and most other topics. Martin Luther King, for example, also possessed many weapons for self defense and even sought a concealed carry permit to help protect himself from violence.

    By "going Gandhi" with mass civil disobedience, New Yorkers are following in the footsteps of human history's greatest freedom fighters and human rights activists. Self defense is a fundamental human right, and any who try to take this right from the People are, by definition, oppressors of human freedom and civil liberties.

    Will New York police fire on their own neighbors and relatives?

    Now the question becomes this: Will law enforcement officials across New York now wage an actual shooting war with private gun owners who refuse to comply with an illegal, unconstitutional and immoral law hastily passed by Cuomo and other enemies of America?

    If so, New York police, state troopers and other law enforcement officials should expect to take considerable casualties as they attempt to disarm the citizenry. As has been written about in many places across the internet, including in articles by firearms instructor Paul Howe, any members of law enforcement who engage in armed raids against the homes of gun owners will likely see their own homes and families targeted with retaliation. Yes, we are talking about the potential of a New York guerilla war where those who participate in gun confiscation are put on "fair game" lists to be targeted and taken out. This is what is being discussed across the 'net, on blogs, in personal conversations, on radio shows and elsewhere.

    I was as surprised to learn this as you may be right now. The reaction to Cuomo's gun grab has been outspoken and powerful. Apparently I am not the only one in America who has committed to defending my liberties with my life, if necessary. There are a great many law-abiding citizens of this country who have joined together in saying "THIS is our line in the sand! Do NOT cross this line!"

    Cuomo has crossed that line, and although for the record I do not advocate the use of violence to resolve conflicts, I cannot help but admit that Cuomo may very well be placing his own life, the life of his family members, and the lives of his staffers in imminent danger if he does not reverse his decision. What's brewing right now is a kind of civil war in New York, and there are apparently all kinds of gun owners across the state who are prepared to die rather than register their firearms. For this reason, and because I do not wish to see any violence occur over this issue, Cuomo needs to immediately back down and reverse his gun registration law in order to prevent bloodshed.

    Yes, it has come to this. And while I do believe that gun owners in New York and across America are incredibly tolerant, patient and even humble people, when they are blatantly placed in the crosshairs of the threat of government violence against them if they do not comply with unreasonable, unconstitutional and immoral demands, they can and will become Cuomo's worst nightmare.

    There are one million gun owners in New York. If one percent rise up and decide to fight back against tyranny, Cuomo will be facing a force of 10,000 armed civilians rising up against him. How do you stop 10,000 armed, angry civilians from marching on the state capitol? You don't. If these 10,000 people decide to pick up arms and march for their rights and freedoms, they will win the showdown.

    The only way New York gun owners lose is if they lay down their arms voluntarily and submit to Cuomo's unconstitutional mandates. Then again, any person who lays down his arms in the face of tyranny probably doesn't deserve to be an American in the first place. This nation was founded on the courage of strong-willing men and women who were willing to take a stand for liberty and justice. That spirit of America appears to be rising again in New York, and Cuomo seems to be on a collision course with history in the making... the kind of history that results in great loss of life followed by a backlash of the People against out-of-control government oppression.

    Ultimately, one possible outcome of all this is Cuomo being forced to flee New York and seek refuge in another state (or another country), where he will no doubt face extradition charges to bring him back to New York where he can be tried for his crimes against the people of the great state of New York.


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    DHS buys 7000 full-auto assault rifles, calls them 'personal defense weapons'

    (NaturalNews) In yet another huge blow to the rhetoric and narrative of the Obama administration and its desire to disarm the American public, a DHS bid has been uncovered (see documents below) showing that the Department of Homeland Security recently put out an offer to purchase 7,000 full-auto "assault weapons" to be used domestically, inside the USA.

    Keep in mind that President Obama is on the record saying, "AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities."

    But it seems he really means they don't belong on the streets of our cities unless they are in the hands of homeland security enforcers, in which case they can be FULL-AUTO assault weapons.

    The DHS bid for 7,000 full-auto assault weapons is found by clicking here. The original credit for discovering this goes, to my best knowledge, to Awr Hawkins at Breitbart.com.

    In the hands of the government, they're called "Personal Defense Weapons"

    The juiciest part of this bid is the use of the phrase "Personal Defense Weapons" to describe the full-auto AR-15s being purchased by DHS.

    Apparently, when YOU hold an AR-15, it's an "assault rifle." But magically, if you hand that same rifle to an armed government homeland security enforcer, it instantly transforms itself into a "personal defense weapon."

    The request for bid actually says:

    DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and / or when maximum concealment is required.

    So there it is, right in black and white: DHS enforcers need full-auto AR-15s which are "suitable for personal defense in close quarters" and for "maximum concealment."

    But if you or I make the same claim, suddenly we are branded lunatics by the fringe left and all the gun grabbers across America who apparently have no clue that their own government is arming up like never before.

    Senator Feinstein, the gun-grabbing Senator from California, says she wants to take all the guns from all Americans. "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in," she says on the record. But while Mr. and Mrs. America are turning in their guns, 'roid-head DHS goons are arming to the teeth with full-auto assault rifles.

    This is all on top of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition the U.S. government has already stockpiled, as was discovered last year. What kind of government wants to domestically stockpile ammo and full-auto weapons, putting them in the hands of domestic agents who have nothing whatsoever to do with overseas wars? Well, the kind of government that plans to NEED 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and full-auto assault weapons, of course.

    Read some language from the contract bid: Pistol grips, full-auto and more

    Click here to see the bid.

    Here's some selected text from the bid:

    ICE/Mission Support-DC
    Immigration and Customs Enforcement
    Office of Acquisition Management
    801 I Street NW, Suite 980
    Washington DC 20536

    Troy Teachey, troy.teachey@dhs.gov

    Delivery Location Code: ICE/AS/NFTTU
    ICE Natl Firearm Tactical Trng Unit
    Immigration and Customs Enforcement
    500 12th ST SW, Washington DC 20536

    5.56X45mm NATO Personal Defense Weapon

    During the base period and four option periods of this contract the maximum ceiling is $9,800,000.


    Click here for the PDF document containing the following text:

    The scope of this contract is to provide a total of up to 7,000 5.56x45mm North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) personal defense weapons (PDW) throughout the life of this contract to numerous Department of Homeland Security components.

    The action shall be select-fire (capable of semi-automatic and automatic fire).

    The action shall be capable of accepting all standard NATO STANAG 20 and 30 round M16 magazines (NSN 1005-00-921-5004) and Magpul 30 round PMAG (NSN 1005-01-576-5159). The magazine shall have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.

    The receiver top shall be equipped with an integral MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail for mounting sights and other accessories.

    The fire control selector shall have three positions; safe, semi-automatic, and automatic.

    The pistol grip shall be a fixed, vertical pistol grip constructed of a durable material.


    DHS admits AR-15 with 30-round magazine is "suitable for personal defense use in close quarters"

    This government document openly admits that AR-15s with 30-round magazines and capable of fully automatic fire are "suitable for personal defense" in close quarters (i.e. your home).

    CNN, of course, doesn't want you to ever hear that. Nor does Feinstein, Cuomo, Schumer, Obama, Eric Holder or any other gun grabbers. Even while their own government is arming up with 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and 7,000 full-auto "assault rifles" (plus lots more in other bids), they are trying to completely disarm the American citizenry through new gun registration and confiscation legislation.

    The whole point of all this, of course, is to create firepower disparity between the government and the citizenry... To disarm the People while arming up the government agents who operate domestically. That way, the people can be forced at gunpoint into doing almost anything the oppressive government demands! (Taking vaccine shots, giving up private property, turning over farms and businesses, etc.)

    What's really hard-hitting about this is that the radical left keeps claiming things like "no one needs an assault rifle for personal defense." Okay, if that true, then the Department of Homeland Security should abandon all such rifles first! Let's see DHS turn in all its rifles and ammo, thereby setting an example of the "fact" that "nobody needs an assault rifle" for self defense.

    In truth, a full-auto AR-15 is an outstanding weapon for self defense, which is exactly why DHS is buying thousands of them. Nothing stops bad guys faster than a barrage of high-velocity lead aimed in their direction. Again, that's why DHS wants these rifles in the first place. One of these rifles in the hands of a citizen could have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting in seconds.

    Pay attention to the word games (which are really mind games)

    As you observe the highly manipulated gun control argument, pay special attention to the word games you're being subjected to:

    An AR-15 in the hands of a citizen is an "assault rifle."
    But an AR-15 in the hands of a DHS agent is a "Personal Defense Weapon."

    A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a citizen is called a "machine gun."
    A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a DHS agent is called a "select-fire rifle."

    According to the media, all government agents with assault rifles are presumed innocent and assumed to be stopping crime.

    But all private citizens with assault rifles are presumed guilty and assumed to be causing crime.

    When one citizen goes crazy and murders a bunch of people, the call goes out for ALL citizens to be stripped of their firearms.

    But when one government agent goes crazy and murders a bunch of people, the calls goes out for MORE guns to be placed in the hands of MORE government agents!

    Thank you, DHS, for admitting the truth

    In summary, it looks like we actually need to thank the DHS for admitting the truth that Obama won't: AR-15s are personal defense weapons, suitable for use in close quarters, especially when equipped with 30-round magazines.

    That's why I own one, and it's why DHS wants thousands more (but theirs are full-auto, while mine is only semi-auto).

    As a general rule, all freedom-loving Americans should want the same firepower their domestic government possesses. That's the whole point behind the Second Amendment, and it represents the distribution of power in a free society.

    But instead of firepower being equal in America today, DHS is using our taxpayer dollars to purchase thousands of full-auto weapons for their own agents. This is apparently being done under ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement).

    This brings up the question for another entire article, and here's the question: Why does immigration need 7,000 full-auto assault rifles? Is there a friggin' Mexican invasion planned that nobody told me about? Is ICE going to invade Mexico and start a shooting war with the Mexican drug cartels?

    Seriously: Why does ICE need 7,000 full-auto assault rifles? And why does DHS need 1.6 billion rounds of ammo?



    Sources for this story include:
    http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/department-homeland-security-la...
    http://radioviceonline.com/department-of-homeland-security-sport-rifl...
    Who Needs an AR-15?



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    Pay attention to the word games (which are really mind games)

    As you observe the highly manipulated gun control argument, pay special attention to the word games you're being subjected to:

    An AR-15 in the hands of a citizen is an "assault rifle."
    But an AR-15 in the hands of a DHS agent is a "Personal Defense Weapon."

    A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a citizen is called a "machine gun."
    A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a DHS agent is called a "select-fire rifle."

    According to the media, all government agents with assault rifles are presumed innocent and assumed to be stopping crime.

    But all private citizens with assault rifles are presumed guilty and assumed to be causing crime.

    When one citizen goes crazy and murders a bunch of people, the call goes out for ALL citizens to be stripped of their firearms.

    But when one government agent goes crazy and murders a bunch of people, the calls goes out for MORE guns to be placed in the hands of MORE government agents!
    Last edited by kathyet; 01-28-2013 at 11:43 AM.

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    Only rebellion can save America

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    The US federal government has strayed so far from the Constitution and the rule of law that it can now be considered rogue and illegitimate.


    Written by Lawrence Sellin
    The thoroughly irresponsible rate of government spending projected over the next twenty-five years will drive federal debt to unsustainable levels. The country is heading for a financial meltdown and economic ruin.


    The Republican Party is inept and impotent and cannot provide the necessary political opposition to the crimes and unconstitutional policies of the Obama regime or stand against the rampant voter fraud which is now polluting the electoral process. There is a report claiming that the Republican Party signed a legal agreement with the Democrat Party in 1982 not to pursue suspected vote fraud. If there is no guarantee of election integrity, then elections become only window dressing for tyranny.
    Barack Obama is an illegal President and unindicted felon. Congress, the American media and the courts are engaged in a criminal conspiracy to conceal their complicity in perpetrating the Obama fraud on the American people. Law enforcement and our elected officials have chosen to risk the survival of the country rather than risk the truth.


    According to recent reports, Obama continues to use a Social Security Number (SSN) not issued to him, in the process, committing numerous counts of social security fraud. The SSN Obama uses, issued in Connecticut, a state where he never lived, does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigrations Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not prospective employees have the required authorization to work legally in the United States. It appears that the SSN Obama uses, was actually issued to a Harrison J. Bounel, born in 1890. Once issued, a SSN is never reissued to another individual. Why isn’t any of that evidence investigated? It is because Barack Obama is protected by a dishonest media and criminally complicit federal officials and, unlike ordinary Americans, he is above the law.


    The US no longer has representative government. Members of Congress seek election not to uphold the Constitution and serve the American people, but to obtain power and to use that power to accrue professional and financial benefits for themselves and their major supporters. All the traditional means for the American people to seek the redress of grievances have now been blocked by a corrupt government composed of a self-absorbed permanent political elite unaccountable to the American people.
    The status quo is no longer defensible. Unless there is a significant reversal soon, it is only a matter of time that a catastrophe will be upon us, which will inevitably lead to national collapse and fragmentation.


    All unconstitutional and unlawful policies of the Obama regime must be opposed, obstructed and undermined. The Democrat Party and their radical left-wing supporters must be aggressively and continuously confronted. The Republican Party must be defunded and its leadership replaced. The purveyors of disinformation and propaganda represented by most of the mainstream media must be professionally destroyed.


    A county by county battle is the means by which the American people can restore the Constitution, establish responsible fiscal policies and take back control of the political process and the government. Patriots need to organize locally outside of the party apparatus to exert political pressure and prepare for armed defense, if necessary. No county officials, in particular the Sheriff, should be elected or maintained in office, who do not fully honor their oath to support and defend the Constitution.


    Fundamental to this effort are the rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment. Each county should establish elements of an organized and disciplined Constitutional Army with sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence and individual liberty from anyone who might attempt to abuse them.
    It is indeed ironic that the Mexican border made maximally porous by the Obama regime may become the route of choice for weapon and ammunition resupply, a Fast and Furious in reverse, capable of making gun control about as successful as the national prohibition of alcohol (1920-33), another failed “noble experiment” undertaken to reduce crime and solve social problems.


    Efforts should be directed towards decreasing the influence of the federal government in county affairs, cooperating with federal officials and agencies only when it benefits local citizens. Counties should maximize the consumption of federal resources and overburdening federal agencies administratively while at the same time reducing or delaying taxes paid to the federal government. County residents should forcefully shun, oppose or drive out of business, individuals or media outlets, which support the criminal Obama regime.


    “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” — Frederick Douglass, August 4, 1857.


    Author Bio
    Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D. is a retired colonel with 29 years of service in the US Army Reserve and a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq. Colonel Sellin is the author of “Afghanistan and the Culture of Military Leadership“. He receives email at lawrence.sellin@gmail.com.




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    The US federal government has strayed so far from the Constitution and the rule of law that it can now be considered rogue and illegitimate.
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