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    It's Not Just Europe; As Many As 16 California Counties May Seek Secession From State

    It's Not Just Europe; As Many As 16 California Counties May Seek Secession From The State

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/04/2014 21:33 -0400

    Frustrated with their representation in government, residents in two of California’s northern counties are heading to the polls to decide whether they should consider seceding from the state. As Reuters reports, campaigns in both Del Norte and Tehama counties are underway to convince residents that permanently separating from California is in their best interests. As many as 16 counties in northern California could potentially join the movement, AP reports, though official secession would require approval by the state legislature as well as the US Congress. If they all decide to seek separation, the counties would make up about a quarter of California’s territory..."We have the water, forests, timber, we have the minerals. We have unspoiled agricultural land. We would be the wealthy state if we were allowed to go back and use our natural resources ourselves."

    As RT reports, residents in two of California’s northern counties are heading to the polls on Tuesday to decide whether they should consider seceding from the state.


    According to Reuters, campaigns in both Del Norte and Tehama counties are underway to convince residents that permanently separating from California is in their best interests. By supporting the measures at the ballot box, supporters would be pushing local officials to continue efforts to combine parts of northern California with parts of southern Oregon into the nation’s 51st state.

    The new state would be called Jefferson, as a tribute to Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, who once believed that parts of the Western United States could form a freestanding republic.

    If the measures are approved, local lawmakers would join other counties and continue to try and generate momentum for secession. Already, four counties – Glenn, Modoc, Siskiyou, and Yuba – have voted to join the effort, while others are waiting for the results in Del Norte and Tehama before taking action.

    As noted by the Associated Press, as many as 16 counties in northern California could potentially join the movement, though official secession would require approval by the state legislature as well as the US Congress. If they all decide to seek separation, the counties would make up about a quarter of California’s territory.

    Despite their size, however, the disgruntled counties only contain a small percentage of California’s inhabitants – Del Norte, for example, is home to just 28,000 of the state’s 38 million-strong population. Fed up with the way California allocates representatives – lawmakers are delegated based on population – secession supporter and organizer Aaron Funk sees the ballot as a way forward.

    "We have 11 counties up here that share one state senator," he told the AP, noting that the greater Los Angeles area and San Francisco Bay have far more. "Essentially, we have no representation whatsoever."
    The measure faces opposition, however, from groups who worry about how Jefferson would be able to support itself financially, especially since many of its residents are poor and unemployed. California already supplies most of the funding for infrastructure and education, and most of the large swathes of land are owned by the federal government – something that would remain the same even if Jefferson were to become a state.


    "We have the water, forests, timber, we have the minerals. We have unspoiled agricultural land," added Funk to the AP. "We would be the wealthy state if we were allowed to go back and use our natural resources ourselves."
    Still, the explanations don’t add up for opposing groups in Del Norte, who fear that approving a measure that calls for secession would simply result in lawmakers using their time debating the creation of Jefferson instead of fixing real problems.
    While headlines are made across the pond as the wealthier nations' citizens seek secession from the poorer nations' demands... (and the poorer nations' citizens seek to leave the pressures of the richer nations' demands) it seems the same under-current is growing in America.

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    Measure A (Del Norte, support for breakaway state)

    Precincts reporting: 18 / 18 (100.0%)
    Name Votes Pct.
    No 2,922 58.6%
    Yes 2,065 41.4%


    Measure A (
    Tehama, support for breakaway state)

    Precincts reporting: 46 / 46 (100.0%)
    Name Votes Pct.
    Yes 4,897 55.7%
    No 3,888 44.3%



    Measure C (Siskiyou, support for breakaway state)

    Precincts reporting: 57 / 57 (100.0%)
    Name Votes Pct.
    No 4,883 55.9%
    Yes 3,856 44.1%


    Measure N (Lake, marijuana regulation)

    Precincts reporting: 70 / 70 (100.0%)
    Name Votes Pct.
    Yes 4,974 52.6%
    No 4,488 47.4%


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    California voters like their state intact, scorn secession talk, poll shows

    Fifty-nine percent of registered voters statewide oppose such an effort, according to the poll. Opposition to the effort is bipartisan, with majorities of Democrats, Republicans and independent voters all opposed . . .

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