Thread: President Trump’s tax plan keeps the socialist communist progressive income tax alive

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Well, now that the Republican tax reform is finalized on paper, we see that it not only keeps the socialist, communist, progressive income tax alive, but President Trump has already given thumbs up to this Washington Sewer Rat’s method of taxation which does nothing to remove the iron fist of our federal government from the necks of America’s hard working productive citizens and business owners; does nothing to end the American People from having to divulge the most personal information of their private lives; does nothing to end our despotic federal government from arbitrarily deciding what is and what is not taxable income; does nothing to end Washington Sewer Rats from picking winners and losers; does nothing to end our Washington Establishment’s use of taxation to intentionally seek out America’s most productive hard working citizens and business owners and transfer the bread they have produced to a dependent voting block who prostitutes its vote for free government cheese; does nothing to end taxation being used as a political weapon to silence, threaten and punish political foes while rewarding the friends of a tyrannical bloated federal government; Does nothing to end the never ending class-warfare tax game used by Washington Sewer Rats to divide and conquer the American People; and does nothing to encourage Congress to adopt sound fiscal policies and immediately extinguish year end deficits.

This is what President Trump, who asserts a love for a free market system and a distain for Washington’s Sewer Rats has given an approving nod to . . . a continuation of the socialist, communist, progressive income tax ___ the very vehicle used by Washington Sewer Rats since 1913 to stifle our Founders’ intended free market system and allows the iron fist of Washington’s sewer rats to clench and squeeze the necks of the American people.

And what did one of our forefathers say with regard to this notoriously evil system of direct taxation?

See Representative Williams during a debate on Direct Taxes, January 18th, 1797

"History, Mr. Williams said, informed them of the annihilation of nations by means of direct taxation. He referred gentlemen to the situation of the Roman Empire in its innocence, and asked them whether they had any direct taxes? No. Indirect taxes and taxes upon luxuries and spices from the Indies were their sources of revenue; but, as soon as they changed their system to direct taxation, it operated to their ruin; their children were sold as slaves, and the Empire fell from its splendor. Shall we then follow this system? He trusted not."

Let us not fool ourselves. Trump’s tax plan is nothing more than a manipulation of the existing and notoriously evil income tax which has proven to be a root cause of many of our nation’s sufferings. Real tax reform is found in the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment which begins with the following 32 words, which would restore our Constitutions’ original tax plan as our founders intended it to operate:

“SECTION 1. The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.

But don’t expect our politically motivated media outlets, including Fox News, to ever discuss the merits, wisdom and brilliance of our Founders’ nonpartisan, make-America-Great tax plan. They are more interested in how to manipulate the existing communist, socialist progressive income tax to carry out their self-righteous personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness instead of allowing the market place to play its intended role in raising a federal revenue, and preventing the devastating consequences of an unbridled direct tax in incomes.

JWK

“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.​

Yep! But at least there is less of it until we can get rid of it entirely.

I like the FairTax, as I think most everyone here knows.

Originally Posted by Judy

Yep! But at least there is less of it until we can get rid of it entirely.

I like the FairTax, as I think most everyone here knows.

The Fair Tax does not withdraw Congress' power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains and other incomes. The Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment does!


JWK

I realize that Johnwk. But the plan is to repeal the 16th Amendment within 7 years of passing the FairTax legislation through the sunset clause, which then achieves your goal. Your plan empowers states to abuse citizens with their own anti-American taxes on profits, income, wages AND property. I'll have none of that, thank you. I don't want to substitute state tax tyranny to pay the bills of the federal government. But I love you anyway. We're in the same league, but each on a team with a different game plan.

Originally Posted by Judy

I realize that Johnwk. But the plan is to repeal the 16th Amendment within 7 years of passing the FairTax legislation through the sunset clause, which then achieves your goal. Your plan empowers states to abuse citizens with their own anti-American taxes on profits, income, wages ....

It's not my plan. It's our Constitution's original tax plan as our Founders intended it to operate.


You should consider moving to one of the seven states which have no income tax.

In regard to the repeal of the 16th Amendment as proposed under the Fair Tax, it makes no attempt to withdraw Congress' power to lay and collect excise taxes calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.

JWK

Yes, I know. I have no problem with the excise tax. The excise tax is a Constitutional tax just like imposts and duties (tariffs), Article 1 section 8.

Those 7 states have property taxes don't they? No thank you, I don't want to be in position of losing my home because the state used its property tax laws to pay federal taxes.

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Originally Posted by Judy

Yes, I know. I have no problem with the excise tax. The excise tax is a Constitutional tax just like imposts and duties (tariffs), Article 1 section 8.

Those 7 states have property taxes don't they? No thank you, I don't want to be in position of losing my home because the state used its property tax laws to pay federal taxes.

JWK

I saw Ivanka on Fox News this morning promoting the communist/socialist/progressive income tax plan cooked up by the Republican Leadership in the House and Senate.

It's amazing that a family who has pledged to drain the swamp, is now embracing the very tool, the communist inspired income tax, which gives swamp creatures the power to do their evil.


JWK

Are we really ok with 45 percent of our nation's population who pay no taxes on incomes being allowed to vote for representatives who spend federal revenue which the remaining 55 percent of our nation's hard working and productive population has contributed into our federal treasury via taxes on incomes when our Constitution requires Representatives and direct taxes Shall be apportioned among the Several States�?

The income tax is unAmerican and evil socialist sloth. It needs to be repealed and replaced with a national sales tax on new retail goods and services.