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☛ Christian Leader Calls Santorum Followers to Vote for Ron Paul VIDEO

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VIDEO Pastor Calls Santorum Followers to Vote for Ron Paul | USA Christian Ministries: Pastor Steven Andrew - Christian Nation: The Lord is the God of the USA & We are His People

“Many Christians are disappointed that Rick Santorum suspended his campaign, but God still has plans for the USA. By seeking Him we can find His plans,” says Pastor Steven Andrew, President of USA Christian Ministries. The pastor calls churches and individual Christians to join him and fast and pray every Wednesday for God’s intervention to help the USA Pastor Calls Santorum Followers to Vote for Ron Paul | USA Christian Ministries: Pastor Steven Andrew - Christian Nation: The Lord is the God of the USA & We are His People

He believes God wants a government and nation after God’s own heart.

“After Santorum, then Ron Paul is the most God-fearing Presidential candidate that the Republican party should endorse (Exodus 18:21),” he says. “If Republicans don’t give a Christian candidate, Christians should look elsewhere – even to a third party.”

“Obama and Romney are the wrong direction for the USA. They serve another Jesus. Romney and Obama aren’t Christians even though they want us to believe they are,” he explains.

He hopes people understand Romney’s heresies. Romney thinks Jesus is a created being, the spirit brother of Lucifer. Christians believe that Jesus is the Second Person of the Godhead, God eternal. Romney also thinks that he will become a God. This is considered evil by Christians. He wants pastors to stand up for God and His Word.

“Obama covered the name and cross of Jesus at Georgetown. Obama believes in leaving living babies to die who survive botched abortions. Obama wants to change George Washington’s Christian laws prohibiting homosexual sin. Obama opposes religious liberty. God says turn away from Obama,” he explains.

The USA is heading the wrong direction by voting for non-Christians. Scripture teaches this causes economic decline and threatens religious liberty,” he says.

The First Commandment says to love God and in the Ten Commandments it says to have no other God before the LORD. Therefore, he says God calls Christians to vote for Christians.

“If a Christian leader says to support Romney or Obama, don’t listen to them. They are going against Scripture,” he continues.

“God says Romney and Obama are ‘accursed’. Those who vote for them would also be accursed (2 Chronicles 19:2),” he adds. Galatians 1:9 says, “if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.”

Christians like that Ron Paul opposes tyranny, would cut the deficit and is prolife.

Pastor Steven Andrew is organizing 1000 pastors to pastor the USA. He is raising funds to buy TV time and to expand. To help support these ministries, see: Get America Back On Track | USA Christian Ministries: Pastor Steven Andrew - Christian Nation: The Lord is the God of the USA & We are His People

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Ron Paul Benefits from Santorum Withdrawal

The anyone but Romney coalition is down one member withy Rick Santorum's withdrawal. Romney is not the immediate beneficiary it seems. According to reports, Ron Paul will now win the MIssouri Caucus:

"Ron Paul won the all of the delegates for the second and third congressional districts in St. Charles County during the redo of the 2012 republican caucus Tuesday night.

About 903 registered voters attended the event with Ron Paul supporters outnumbering the others.

Paul swept the caucus, taking all 59 delegate seats in Congressional District 2 and 88 seats in Congressional District 3. Those delegates will go onto the Congressional District Caucuses April 21...

Paul also won all of the alternate Delegate slots...

Paul also won the state delegates as well..." (Source)

So, it appears, that Ron Paul is set up as the next Republican, anti-Romney vote recipient. The coalition continues, with Ron Paul as the leader. Whether or not he remains loyal to his devoted followers by staying in the race until the Republican convention, or cuts a deal, is something we will be keeping an eye on.

If he stays in the race, he will be a powerful force at the Convention, which still could deny Romney the Republican nomination for President. Ron Paul's campaign had this to say about Santorum's withdrawal:

“Congratulations to Senator Santorum on running such a spirited campaign. Dr. Paul is now the last – and real – conservative alternative to Mitt Romney. We plan to continue running hard, secure delegates, and press the fight for limited, constitutional government in Tampa.” — National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton (Source)

The Group Mormon Reform issued the following statement:

"Before anyone votes for Mitt Romney they need to consider that a serious group of American Citizens are determined to see him and the Leadership of the Mormon Church investigated for highly suspect financial transactions." The group will not be making any political endorsements the statement says. Their website can be found here.

According to an online petition sponsored by the group, and posted on April 8th:

"The Assets of Beneficial Life, another Church Mormon Church Asset, also appears to have been plundered through the use of subprime mortages and derivatives that may involve Ensign Peak Advisors, Mitt Romney, Bain Capital and Leaders of the Mormon Church."

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Paul Drockton: Ron Paul Benefits from Santorum's Withdrawal

St Charles Missouri caucus Ron Paul had a clean sweep!

ST. CHARLES, Mo. — On the day Rick Santorum dropped out of the presidential race, it was Ron Paul not presumptive front-runner Mitt Romney who stole the show at the do-over Republican caucus in one of Missouri’s largest and most conservative counties.

St. Charles County Republicans reconvened Tuesday, weeks after the initial caucus was canceled after descending into chaos amid rules disputes and claims of favoritism.

Things went more smoothly Tuesday. There were plenty of disagreements, but things never turned chaotic.

It was Paul, not Romney, who drew support of the St. Charles County caucus-goers. Slates of Paul supporters were picked for congressional district caucuses later this month and the statewide GOP convention in June. Paul picks up 152 delegates to go on to the district and state conventions.

The caucus began just hours after Santorum announced he was suspending his presidential campaign.



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Part II – Paul Supporters: Why Our Political Future Is In the GOP

Thursday, April 12, 2012 – by Ron Holland


So What is the Future for Liberty in Our Closed Political Monopoly?
Let's take over the GOP from the inside rather than fight them in a rigged election process where third-party candidates are hidden by a news blackout enforced by both parties and the main street news media. For example, how many times have the national LP candidates been in a debate with the candidates of the GOP or Democrats? Contrast this with Paul's repeated debate inclusion during the 2012 primary season.

Americans historically do not vote for third-party presidential candidates in the general election. At the end of this election will we be remembered and feared as a 15% voting block that is taking over the GOP one county at a time from the good ol' boy establishment or do we fall for the third-party attraction and receive a meaningless one time few percent of the national vote in November?

Our one chance for ultimate victory is to take advantage of the GOP party rules used for years to rally conservative and free-market voters at election time. Of course, they then dismiss us after election day until the next siren call for voters to support a GOP with less government rhetoric but, in fact, almost a mirror image of the socialist Democrats. Like the unions and liberal voting blocks of the Democrats, we are considered little more than voting cannon fodder to be used at election time.

In my opinion, a rush to the Libertarian Party or another third party if Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP presidential nomination is a big mistake that could dramatically weaken the power and cripple the future viability of his liberty movement. I personally will not even consider voting for Romney unless he picks Ron or Rand Paul as his VP candidate, and if it is Rand, Ron is offered a top cabinet position as Secretary of the Treasury etc.

Note, I'm certainly not urging Paul supporters to support a Romney/Paul ticket; rather, I'm keeping my options open in order to provide the maximum leverage to Paul forces at the convention by categorically stating, "No Paul = No Vote For the Republican Ticket in November."

Second, no meaningless gestures like a prime convention-speaking slot or influence over the party platform will buy my support. I suggest you do the same until after the GOP convention, and then let your conscience be your guide.

Both Political Party Leaderships are Controlled by Special Interests
If the young Paul supporters continue to participate in the GOP, then the establishment will be powerless to stop our eventual takeover at the county, state and potentially the national level as the older propagandized, sheep-like voters die off. The Internet reformation has meant that the old "lesser of two evils" strategy used by both political parties to motivate voting blocks is, thankfully, dying.

Today, with alternative news sites and free-market alternatives open for discovery, anyone willing to search the Net will quickly realize the "lesser of two evils" meme is just propaganda. Both parties, regardless of propaganda and rhetoric at election time, have similar agendas and governance plans based on powerful special interests. Neither represents the people, only special interests.

How ironic that my generation, which had some faith and allegiance to the party leadership and yet believed in our constitutional and free-market principles, stood by and did nothing to halt the growth of government and loss of our liberties at the hands of the GOP elites when they knew better. In every election they blindly cheered the election-year rhetoric, voted as they were told and then were somehow surprised after each election that despite the same old campaign promises their candidates were little different from the Democrats.

Government and foreign neocon-style military actions increased while our personal and financial freedoms were decimated as surely by the GOP as the Democrats.

Remember both Alan Greenspan, the architect of the boom and 2008 meltdown, and Ben Bernanke, whose policies prolonged and deepened the recession/depression, were appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve by GOP presidents. Nixon gave us the Nixon Shock in 1971, unilaterally cancelling the direct convertibility of the US dollar to gold. George H.W. Bush pledged "no new taxes" in his 1988 campaign and then raised taxes and spending, and his son, George W., started two major wars that continue even today.

A Wing and a Prayer

Our goal should be to build a permanent, expanding Paulian or liberty wing of the Republican Party over the next four years. I don't believe we have a prayer of impacting policies or relevance in the political process if we go down the road of good intentions but unintended negative consequences of third-party political action.

We should remain active in the GOP and work to gain majority control over local precincts and county organizations and play by the rules, unlike many of the present party hacks and leaders. Second, we should run for office and support candidates, especially at the legislature level, that share our views. Third, run or support candidates running for Congress over the next four years who will advance our freedom-oriented objectives concerning the Federal Reserve, rolling back the police state, sound money and an intelligent foreign policy.

Romney has the Nomination but Will Lose in November Unless...

The controlled and manipulated GOP nomination process is over except for the coronation convention and media circus. Its all fake, just like the "Hunger Games" extravaganza, and Mitt Romney will be the GOP presidential candidate but his victory march may well end where it begins, in Tampa.

First, in November he'll automatically get the GOP moderates and the usual "status quo" Republican country-club types who have no philosophy but just want to be on the winning team for contracts, graft and power. He will get endorsements and votes from social conservative supporters of Gingrich and Santorum and the earlier presidential candidates. But he will likely lose two key constituencies required for him to win against Obama and the Democratic machine: Ron Paul supporters and conservative evangelicals.

The GOP political establishment holds the view that even supporters of Ron Paul will in the end vote Republican for Romney because his rhetoric is more free-market and capitalist than Obama. Well, maybe ... but we only have to look at the failed George Bush regime to see how little that really means when we consider two failed wars, the market and real estate crash, the falling dollar and the bank and Wall Street bailouts. I suggest that very few of us Ron Paul supporters will vote for Romney because we agree with Justin Raimondo – the GOP establishment needs to be taught a lesson.

They do need to be taught a lesson but if we leave the GOP and go the third-party route and Romney and the Republican candidates lose, then we will forgo any chance to take over the GOP or for longer-term political action within the party, thus wasting much of our internal organizational success to date. This will validate the GOP leadership smear that we aren't real Republicans and the growing power of freedom forces inside the party will be eliminated.

Will Ron Paulers Vote for Romney?
A young woman made the best case I've seen or read for Ron Paul supporters on Facebook several days ago. Quoting her from the YouTube video below made me realize how much the Ron Paul Campaign has accomplished so far in this election cycle. I urge you to watch and listen to her reply to a neocon friend who suggested, "A vote not cast for Romney is a vote for Obama." Therefore we should vote for Romney.

I urge you to watch her and listen to her passionate words on YouTube:

But her statement is almost as powerful in text form quoted below:

We are not afraid to lose if losing means our integrity and principles remain with us. Our numbers have tripled in this election and we have already won. We have spread the message of individual liberty far and wide. Ron Paul has inspired the liberty movement in Africa, in Europe, even in Korea. Only a third of American colonists believed that the Revolutionary War was necessary and they changed the course of history forever.

It is our turn now to do the same. An election outcome will not change that. We are willing to lay down our lives for the cause of liberty if it is required of us and it may be. I welcome losing if the winning team is not supporting the principles this country was founded on.

But I will not go as a lamb to the slaughter and vote for someone who my heart, my gut and my reason tell me are not right for this country. Like Patrick Henry said, "I know not what course others will take but as for me, give me liberty or give me death."

This young women speaks for millions of us who will not vote for Mitt Romney in 2012 unless he unilaterally guarantees us he will advance our freedom agenda. He can do this by naming Rand Paul as his VP running mate and promising a Ron Paul cabinet appointment, followed by campaign pledges for real action on the Fed audit and requiring a declaration of war for future foreign military actions.

We live in a one-party state and we have a chance to take over and redirect the GOP in coming years. Otherwise, all the work Ron Paul and his freedom supporters have done will be lost in a third-party effort. That may provide us satisfaction, and this is what the GOP elites need, but it is a very shortsighted view of how we may still save these United States and the patriot dreams of our founding fathers.

I prefer watching the upcoming "Hunger Games" movies as pure entertainment instead of what will be a sad dystopian future for the United States. I hope we all hang together and keep our powder dry until after the GOP convention, and wait for Ron Paul to address us, hopefully after Romney has responded favorably to the requirements of the Ron Paul Campaign and us his supporters. Then each of us can make our own election year choices.

Conclusion
Mitt, we know you want very much to be President of the United States. I believe you will need to name an evangelical or mainline Christian as your running mate to have a chance to win a sizeable enough evangelical vote majority to have a chance to win the November election.

While the prejudice against Mormons is unfortunate it does exist, due in part to some strange (to non-members) LDS Church beliefs and practices combined with a lifetime of mostly negative evangelical preaching against the Church. This prejudice will negatively impact your votes, especially in the South, during the November election.

Second, you will also need the 10 to 15 percent of the electorate who consider themselves Ron Paul supporters and we will likely stay at home unless you nominate a Ron Paul free-market thinker to the ticket. The standard conservative neocons like Gingrich, Santorum and other former candidates in the primary will not meet our litmus test. Your first choice should be Ron or Rand Paul but others could include Tom Woods, Judge Napolitano and maybe a few others.

This is your decision to make but you will be defeated if you do not bring both Ron Paul supporters and conservative Christians into your campaign and address our major concerns. Speaking as a Ron Paul supporter, my first editorial after the election, should you not follow this friendly advice and you lose, will be titled, "Mitt, We Told You So."

Ron Holland

Part I of this editorial was posted April 11th, 2012, at the Daily Bell, here: Part I - Beware the Establishment's Third Party Trap

The Daily Bell - Part II

The Ron Paul Buzz Heightens With Santorum’s Exit

April 12, 2012 by Sam Rolley

It may never be over for Ron Paul.

Rick Santorum made the decision to “suspend” his campaign on Tuesday, leaving Mitt Romney, Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich as the remaining contenders for the Republican Presidential nominee. Now what?

Romney has long been declared by the GOP establishment and mainstream media as the definite front-runner in the race. But for the sake of the 24-hour news cycle, nearly every other candidate has been afforded a moment to relish in the limelight as his “rival” — every candidate, it seems, except Paul.

With Santorum’s exit, the “Paulbots,” “Paulites” or whatever the MSM have branded Paul’s supporters this week have become energized, and some pundits believe they have good reason. Throughout the primary season, Paul and his supporters have frequently decried the lack of media attention given to the candidate despite his campaign’s ability to organize and energize supporters in ways the other contenders could only hope to emulate.

But now, some people are left wondering if the media will be forced to recognize Paul as a real alternative — even if he is trailing — to Romney as the race enters the final stretch and the candidates make a mad dash to the Republican National Convention in August.

The prospect seems unlikely. The New York Timesdeclared on Monday — even before Santorum’s exit — that the primary has reached an endgame in an article entitled “A Living Autopsy of the Ron Paul Campaign.” Despite the article’s death-declaration of a title, its author could not help but note the obvious: Paul’s positions are popular to a large base of Americans.

Seemingly representing the best of both worlds in a political sense, the candidate’s fiscal ideology is the stuff of dreams for Republicans — specifically Tea Party types who believe Paul Ryan’s recent budget proposal to be lackluster in the “cuts” department. His wish for a smaller Federal government bridges gaps between libertarians, Republicans and independents. And though Paul’s foreign policy makes many hawkish conservatives queasy, it represents a silver lining to Democratic voters who supported Obama for similar peaceful proposals and were slapped in the face.

Paul is often called dangerous by the elite within the military-industrial complex, yet he receives more campaign donations from active-duty military personnel and veterans than any of the other candidates. Do these troops know something the general public — the average hawkish conservative — does not? Lost in translation to many Republican voters who prefer small government is the Paul axiom that big military is big government. In fact, about 27 cents of every 2011 Federal income tax dollar went to military spending, according to the National Priorities Project, a nonprofit, nonpartisan research organization that analyzes the Federal budget.

Paul and Gingrich have both vowed to stay in the race until the convention, but an interesting caveat for fiscal conservatives considering a vote for Gingrich: The man, who if elected would be charged with repairing a national economy that is in extreme debt, is bouncing checks on the campaign trail. Some pundits have noted since the beginning of his campaign that Gingrich has used the primary mostly as a book tour.

Paul’s campaign still has money to burn and the dogged determination of a well-organized base of support, and many within his base believe — despite MSM reports — that Paul actually has enough delegates to pose a major threat to Romney. They base the assertions on the fact that many of the delegates remain unbound to any one candidate, and the delegate-count numbers are constantly fluctuating.

Even if the MSM are correct in asserting that Paul is no threat to Romney as the primary draws down, the candidate has energized a mass of people who seem to represent a serious threat to the political status quo. In a recent POLITICO article, “Ron Paul’s baby boom,” it is noted that Paul’s Presidential bid and the growing popularity of his message have encouraged a growing number of people who do not identify as wholly Republican or Democrat, but rather as supporters of liberty, to become politically involved. Even if Paul loses this battle, it looks as if he has set the stage to win the war.

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Ron Paul Beats Obama 44 to 43 in the Rasmussen daily tracking poll 04-12-2012

04/12/2012
President Obama and Mitt Romney are tied in a national head-to-head match-up, according to the latest survey from conservative polling outlet Rasmussen.

Each pulled 45 percent, while Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R) edged Obama 44 to 43 in the daily tracking poll.

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