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Rosenstein to Meet Trump Thursday Amid Chaos Over Resignation



"At the request of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, he and President Trump had an extended conversation to discuss the recent news stories..."

Mon, 09/24/2018 - 13:03
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Update 3: The White House has finally weighed in on the Rosenstein "is he in or out" controversy. Sarah Huckabee Sanders has said that Rosenstein will meet with Trump on Thursday.
A source told Reuters that Rosenstein had spent the weekend contemplating whether he should resign after a shocking New York Times report last week said he had suggested secretly recording Trump in 2017 and invoking a constitutional amendment to remove him from office.
The White House announced the meeting on Monday after a flurry of conflicting reports about whether Rosenstein, a frequent target of Trump’s anger, would be leaving the post.
"At the request of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, he and President Trump had an extended conversation to discuss the recent news stories," White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said on Twitter. "Because the President is at the United Nations General Assembly and has a full schedule with leaders from around the world, they will meet on Thursday when the President returns to Washington, DC."
She said the meeting will be on Thursday because Trump was at the U.N. General Assembly on Monday and has meetings with world leaders later in the week.
Hinting at his next steps, shortly after the Times story, Trump told supporters at a rally in Missouri that there is “a lingering stench” at the Justice Department and that “we’re going to get rid of that, too.”
Rosenstein’s departure would prompt questions about the future of Mueller’s investigation and whether Trump, who has called the probe a “witch hunt,” would seek to remove Mueller.
If Rosenstein does resign, Trump has more leeway on replacing him while firing him would make it harder for Trump to designate a successor, as Bloomberg explained here.
Rosenstein’s future ignited a series of conflicting reports on Monday, with the Axios news website cited an unidentified source with knowledge of the matter as saying he had verbally resigned to White House Chief of Staff John Kelly. Other reports said Rosenstein expected to be fired while NBC News reported Rosenstein said he would not resign and the White House would have to fire him.
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Update 2: Rosenstein reportedly traveled to the White House on Monday for an NSC meeting...the plot thickens...

Josh Gerstein ✔ @joshgerstein

BOIL TO SIMMER? Rosenstein hasn't resigned and hasn't been fired yet, a source familiar says. Attending an NSC principals committee meeting right now at WH, source says
12:08 PM - Sep 24, 2018

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Given the intensity of this morning's conflicting media reports, we'd like to introduce "the Rosenstein Uncertainty Principle"...

Peter Suderman ✔ @petersuderman

Rod Rosenstein, who has either resigned or not, or been fired or not, or is on the way to the White House to resign or be fired, or not, is apparently in a state of quantum (un)employment.
12:01 PM - Sep 24, 2018

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...meanwhile at the White House...

Katie Rogers ✔ @katierogers

Here at the White House there’s no sign of Rosenstein, a lone intern is keeping watch over the comms office, and no one seems to have any idea what is actually happening. Meanwhile, on Twitter, literally any employment situation is a possibility. Good job everyone.
12:06 PM - Sep 24, 2018

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...speculation is simmering that Trump may be able to appoint any confirmed cabinet member to replace Rosie regardless of whether he resigns or is fired...

Mike Tokes ✔ @MikeTokes

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BREAKING: It is being reported that Rod Rosenstein has resigned to John Kelly.

If true & Rosenstein resigned, per Vacancies Act Trump can appoint an already approved Cabinet member, if fired the US Solicitor General Noel Francisco will be in charge of the Mueller investigation.

Mike Tokes ✔ @MikeTokes


UPDATE: The DOJ Office of Legal Council has concluded that the Vacancies Act can override the DOJ succession statute.

So regardless if fired/resigned, Trump can appoint an already confirmed Cabinet member to replace Rod Rosenstein & assume control over the Mueller investigation. pic.twitter.com/HyxFrcafjs
12:16 PM - Sep 24, 2018

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Update 1: WSJ is now reporting that Rosenstein hasn't tendered his resignation - at least not yet. "The situation is still fluid," the paper said.

Andrew Peng @TheAPJournalist

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Replying to @TheAPJournalist
Expect to see more headlines like this until we find out what’s going on:

*POMPEO DECLINES TO ANSWER QUESTION ABOUT DEPUTY AG ROSENSTEIN (@business)

Andrew Peng @TheAPJournalist


.@WSJ: Rosenstein is expecting to be fired by Trump, a person familiar with the matter said; but the situation remained fluid as another person familiar with the matter said Rosenstein is expected to resign, and that discussions have been underway about his departure all weekend.
11:40 AM - Sep 24, 2018

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Though multiple outlets are reporting that Rosenstein has been summoned to the White House with the expectation of being sacked.
Meanwhile...Trump is reportedly on a call with Kelly, who is at the White House.

Annie Karni ✔ @anniekarni

Am told by a WH source that Trump is currently on a call with Kelly, who is at the WH while POTUS is in New York.
11:35 AM - Sep 24, 2018

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Reports about Rosenstein's fate have continued to weigh on stocks, with the Dow down 170 points on the day to touch fresh lows (while the Nasdaq has powered higher):





In a statement, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe said that "if rumors about Rosenstein's departure are true, I'm deeply concerned" that the Mueller probe could be at risk.
One analyst pointed out that Rosenstein's firing would trigger a "political earthquake": "If Rosenstein is fired or resigns, this will be the last step for Trump before firing Mueller as well. And if this happens, believe me if I say that it will definitely not just be 'noise'... it will be a political earthquake with heavy consequences also on markets."
The breathless coverage and speculation has prompted some well-timed jokes on twitter.

Scott Bixby ✔ @scottbix

Video at the tweet and page link

Newsrooms today:
10:50 AM - Sep 24, 2018

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Though, on a more serious note, Jack Posobiec pointed out an interesting coincidence related to the timing of Rosenstein's purported resignation.

Jack Posobiec ✔ @JackPosobiec



To be clear:

Rod Rosenstein is resigning just before the FISA warrant he signed is declassified

Let that sink in
11:36 AM - Sep 24, 2018

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After Friday night's blockbuster NYT report in which, according to Andrew McCabe's personal files, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein offered to record President Trump (whether in jest or not) and proposed invoking Article 25, speculation has intensified that President Trump may fire Rosenstein imminently. And while many of Trump's allies have urged caution, fearing a trap, moments ago Axios reported that Rosenstein has decided to preempt that step by verbally resigning to Chief of Staff John Kelly in anticipation of being fired by President Trump, according to a source with direct knowledge.
Within minutes of Axios' report hitting the tape, several other media organizations (including ABC, AP ad Bloomberg) piled on, saying Rosenstein was on his way to the White House to be fired.
Per a source close to Rosenstein: "He’s expecting to be fired," so he plans to step down.

The exact timing of the resignation is unclear, but he isn’t expected to be in job after Monday, according to another person familiar with the matter. The move comes after reports that Rosenstein suggested to colleagues last year that he would secretly record conversations with President Donald Trump.

Mike Levine ✔ @MLevineReports



Source says Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is currently on his way to the White House, expecting to be fired once he gets there.
10:44 AM - Sep 24, 2018

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However, as the NYT clarified, it wasn't immediately clear whether Rosenstein was going to resign, or if he was heading to the White House expecting to be fired. Complicating matters further, MSNBC is reporting that Rosenstein will not resign, as he will "have" to be fired.


David Rutz ✔ @DavidRutz


MSNBC reporting Rosenstein will NOT resign, says he'll have to be fired
10:49 AM - Sep 24, 2018

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It's worth pointing out that Trump is in New York City for the UN General Assembly. And while Bloomberg reported that Rosenstein's resignation letter had been accepted, the NYT said it wasn't clear whether Trump would even accept Rosie's resignation so close to the mid-term elections, which would in effect force the Deputy AG to quit, or reluctantly stay on.
According to MSNBC, the office of the special counsel refused to comment on the story or say whether it had a new boss.


The news sent the S&P and the Dow to fresh session lows, leaving them on track for their biggest daily drop in a month, perhaps due to concerns the latest departure will lead to more political volatility as Trump seeks to end the Mueller probe.




If Rosenstein does leave, oversight of the Mueller probe would fall to Solicitor General Noel Francisco, who would reportedly be much more amenable to Trump. According to Bloomberg, Trump can install a temporary replacement as deputy attorney general until he nominates a successor to Rosenstein, who would have to be confirmed by the Senate.
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As one Twitter user noted, the uncertainty surrounding Rosenstein's status has made for one jam-packed news cycle...

Parker Molloy ✔ @ParkerMolloy

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The news cycle:
11:16 AM - Sep 24, 2018

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Rod Rosenstein Resigns Under Fire, 2388

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The Still Report
Published on Sep 24, 2018

Synopsis: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has verbally resigned to White House chief of staff John Kelly in an attempt to prevent being fired, according to Axios reporting timestamped 10:36 am. Rosenstein’s resignation came just days after the New York Times reported that he discussed wearing a wire to record in-person conversations with President Trump to attempt to trap him saying things that could then be used to force his resignation. Rosenstein denied that he ever discussed or contemplated removing the President from office, however Congressman Matt Gates… said just minutes ago that if Rosenstein did not submit to an examination in front of Congressional committees this week, he would be impeached. [insert] The most recent reports are that Rosenstein is on his way to the White House to personally submit his letter of resignation to prevent from being fired by Kelly. If this is true, then apparently President Trump and his staff overnight decided Rosenstein had to go, no matter the political turmoil that may ensue. The President is in New York today giving a speech at the United Nations. History will view Rosenstein’s departure from the Justice Department as the pivotal moment when the coup d’état against President Trump completely collapsed. It would be wise for General Kelly to send the Secret Service to Rosenstein’s office at the Justice Department and seal it to prevent destruction of relevant national security documents.