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Senator Lindsey Graham Says Ron Paul Is No Longer In The Race - Let's Show Him How Strong We Are!

Submitted by FreedomLovingPatriot on Sun, 03/11/2012 - 19:46
Ron Paul 2012

In a recent Yahoo news article, Lindsey Graham stated that Mitt Romney has this in the bag and that he was sure the race would be over by the beginning of May. He later states that he isn't calling for the other candidates to drop out, but I quote, "It's Romney's to lose," he said. "And, quite frankly, every time he had his back against the wall, he's performed. And I like his chances, but the other two candidates have got to make that decision themselves."

Let's show Mr. Graham how many supporters Ron Paul has and that he is still in this race til the end!

Here is a video showing the news article and breaking down what we can do to help Ron Paul!



Senator Lindsey Graham Says Ron Paul Is No Longer In The Race - Let's Show Him How Strong We Are! | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

Senator Lindsey Graham the "John McCain Slim Shady Mini-Me" is about as BROKE in the Head as they get. He went "Full Retard" a "LONG Time Ago"

No Paul = No Vote in November

by Ron Holland

Previously by Ron Holland: The Secret Media War of 2012




"I would also say of Ron Paul – he doesn't need to win. In his view he is winning already. This is an ideological point he is making. But here's why it's electorally significant – a lot of people, I mean 41 percent in Virginia, only two people on the ballot, still a lot of people voted for Ron Paul. A lot of those voters are portable. They're not Republican – they're not dedicated Republican voters." ~ Tucker Carlson, Editor, The Daily Caller

It is time for a groundswell of Ron Paul supporters to quietly, respectfully but firmly make their position clear to the mainstream media and the GOP establishment. Simply put, "No Paul on the ticket means no vote for the GOP in November".

The Ron Paul Campaign has the GOP establishment stuck between a rock and a hard place even though they have not won a single state in the primaries to date. Every Paul supporter knows the underhanded tactics used by the Republican leadership at the state and national level as well as the organized smear and news blackout campaign carried out by the mainstream media.

Making Nice For the November Election

As we move into the last months of the GOP presidential nomination campaign, most of the establishment media are now "making nice" with Ron Paul and his supporters. He actually gets questions during the debates, some press coverage and the other candidates seem friendly. The reason is simple. The Republican Party desperately needs the votes of Ron Paul supporters in order to win in November against Obama.

Obviously Virginia Heffernan didn’t get the memo in her typical anti-Paul elitists drivel titled Ron Paul’s Pointless Internet Presidency posted on Yahoo earlier in the week but now this is the exception rather than standard procedure for the press. The word has gone out to be nice and respectful to Ron Paul so they can get our votes in November.

Too Little To Late

The Republican establishment has obviously done its homework with focus groups, polling etc. and here is their situation. Although they have successfully held back the Ron Paul campaign to date from threatening to win the GOP presidential nomination, in the dirty tricks process they have ostracized the substantial Paul voting constituency even more from the GOP than before.

Paul supporters are far more than portable as suggested by Tucker Carlson, rather they are toxic toward the GOP elites and very few will now support any of the establishment candidates after the abusive treatment given to Ron Paul as well as the crude attacks against Paul supporters. I well understand these feelings of resentment, as I am a Ron Paul supporter. There is no way I will vote for either Romney, Santorum or Gingrich although I certainly prefer their fake rhetoric to the Obama propaganda. If Ron Paul isn’t the Republican nominee for president, then the establishment nominee desperately needs the votes of his supporters in order to beat Obama in the fall general election.

The establishment knows the Gingrich and Santorum voters in the GOP Presidential primary will eventually vote for Mitt Romney in November if he wins the Republican presidential nomination at the GOP convention beginning on August 27th, 2012. They also know and fear that most Ron Paul supporters will not vote for the nominee and will likely stay away from the polls in droves thus hurting the other Republican candidates for the House and Senate as well for state and local elections. Basically 15% of the GOP primary voters will sit out the 2012 November election and this almost guarantees the re-election of Barack Obama.

I Don’t Really Care If the Democrats or Republicans Win in November?

My answer is regardless of whether Romney or Obama wins the general election despite all the anti-Obama rhetoric by the Republican establishment, little will change on major issues. Romney’s campaign promises are identical to all other presidential campaign promises, much to do about nothing. Neither Bush nor Obama kept their campaign promises and neither will Romney.

Course of Action

First, we redouble our efforts in voting and funding the Ron Paul Campaign up through the final primary and caucus.

Second, in editorials, articles or discussions with the press or GOP leadership always stress and emphasize your plans to stay at home on election day, if a Ron or Rand Paul is not on the ticket.

Third, at the Republican National Convention when the presidential nomination is handed to Romney assuming he wins, we continue to stress "NO PAUL = NO VOTE IN NOVEMBER".

Finally, then we wait at the convention for the personal phone call from Mitt Romney following private preliminary discussions where Rand Paul is asked to be the Vice Presidential candidate on a Romney/Paul ticket after assurances Ron Paul will be nominated for an appropriate cabinet level appointment such as Secretary of the Treasury or Defense.

Ron Paul deserves some family time off following the years of campaigning and educating the American people about liberty. He has done more to advance the cause of limited government, liberty and free-markets than any American since the time of the American Revolution.

Mitt Romney has spent the last 7 years running for President of the United States so obviously he really wants to win. Romney and his advisors must know without the 15% plus of GOP voters supporting Ron Paul who unlike Gingrich and Santorum will sit the election out, that he cannot defeat Barack Obama without our support. His only option is to put a "Paul" on the ticket.

Although a Vice President Rand Paul is a great tactical victory, this is only a battle in a long war for the restoration of liberty and legitimate Constitutional government to the United States.

When I was a young man in the military during the 1970’s, I well remember the antiwar crowds shouting "Hell no, we won’t go" in opposition to the Vietnam War. Today, 40 plus years later, I’m a grandfather and maybe older and wiser but still willing to more respectfully tell the same power elites running this country and both political parties, "Hell no, I won’t go" again but this time it is to the polls in November unless there is a Paul on the ticket.

Will you join me?

March 12, 2012

Ron Holland [send him mail] is a contributor to the Mountain Vision Newsletter, the Daily Bell and CEO of Biologix Hair Inc. based in Toronto, Canada.

Copyright © 2012 Ron Holland

Ron Paul Clobbered Romney Among Independent Voters On Super Tuesday... Virgina: 37% to 31%; Ohio: 37% to 31%; Tenn: 38% to 25%

Does Romney Need a Sister Souljah Moment?

Rogelio V. Solis/AP Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks at the Mississippi Farmers Market in Jackson, Miss., Friday, March 9, 2012. (AP Photo/Rogelio V. Solis)

The GOP front-runner might be better off visiting Tension City.

By John Aloysius Farrell

Updated: March 12, 2012 | 11:53 a.m.
March 12, 2012 | 6:00 a.m.

When Mitt Romney ducked the chance to rebuke Rush Limbaugh for calling a young law student a “slut” and a “prostitute,” critics said he missed out on a Sister Souljah moment.
But until Romney clinches the Republican nomination, a Souljah moment -- vocally speaking out at the risk of alienating a key party constituency -- is too dangerous a way for the candidate to demonstrate strength and conviction. He’ll be better off booking a trip to Tension City, that place where an angry confrontation can forever alter perceptions of a politician.
Saddled with an image as a malleable opportunist, Romney needs a way to convey power and purpose -- especially to independent and centrist voters who will play a key role in the fall campaign.
Facing similar challenges, then-candidates Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush staged contrived confrontations -- the Souljah moment and the Tension City showdown -- to demonstrate their mettle. Both went on to win the White House.
Romney is winning delegates and proceeding, however haltingly, toward the nomination. But the image of Romney as a craven flip-flopper persists. In this month’s NBC/Wall Street Journal poll of Republican voters, the leading concern about Romney was that “he waffles on the issues and does not take a position.”
In 10 of the 14 Republican primary or caucus states, one or more of Romney’s GOP rivals has beaten him among independent voters -- at times significantly.
In Virginia on Super Tuesday, Ron Paul clobbered Romney, 64 percent to 36 percent, among the 32 percent of the electorate who described themselves as independents. In Ohio (37 percent to 31 percent) and Tennessee (38 percent to 25 percent) Romney lost the independent vote to Rick Santorum. Newt Gingrich carried independent voters by healthy margins in South Carolina and Georgia.
The problem is not just Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, most of whom will probably embrace Romney if he wins the nomination.
A recent Pew Research Center poll showed that Romney has lost ground to President Obama among independent voters across the country as the caustic GOP campaign drags on. Romney led Obama among independent voters by 10 points in January. By mid-February, according to Pew, Obama was beating Romney, 51-42.
In a Washington Post/ABC survey conducted earlier this month, Romney had a 32 percent favorable rating among independents, and 48 percent unfavorable.
All is not lost. Romney is still viewed, by many moderate or somewhat conservative Republicans and independents, as a skilled and experienced candidate who has the business experience and management skills to fix the troubled economy. It gives him “particular appeal to some of the sorts of swing voters that Republicans are going to need,” noted Karlyn Bowman, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.
The Mormon Romney beat the Roman Catholic Santorum, for example, by 13 points among Catholic voters in Ohio on Super Tuesday.
Yet Bowman warned Republicans that “the coalition that Obama put together [in 2008] is coming back,” as young people, minorities, women, and independents are returning -- at least for now -- to the president.
Women are particularly important. They outvoted men, 53 to 47 percent, in the 2008 presidential campaign, and gave Obama 56 percent of their votes.
And so Romney’s timid response to Limbaugh’s attacks on law student Sandra Fluke -- the candidate waited two days before telling reporters, “It’s not the language I would have used” -- persuaded some that he missed a golden opportunity.
Democrats were quick to cite the episode as further proof that Romney doesn’t have what it takes to be president. “These are tests. Presidential campaigns are tests. You are tested every single day,” said David Axelrod, the president’s top political adviser. “Mitt Romney has failed those tests.
“If you don’t have the strength to stand up to the most strident voices in your party, how are you going to stand up to [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad?” Axelrod said.
Ron Kaufman, a Romney adviser, bridled at the “hypocrisy” of Democrats like Axelrod, whose ire over Limbaugh’s remarks does not extend to Bill Maher, the comedian who routinely uses crude and profane terms to describe Republican women, and who reportedly pledged a million dollars to a Democratic super PAC supporting Obama.
But some Republicans wondered. “It could have been and should have been” a Sister Souljah moment, said Republican consultant Mike Murphy on Meet the Press. “It was a lost opportunity.”
Sister Souljah arrived on the political stage in June 1992, when candidate Clinton faced circumstances much like those that now confront Romney.
“The parallels are eerie,” said Paul Begala, one of the aides who helped choreograph the Souljah moment. Clinton had tacked left in that spring’s Democratic primaries, pandering to the party’s base and using a barrage of TV ads to taint rival Paul Tsongas as insufficiently liberal. But once he had the nomination in hand, Clinton felt the need to show centrist voters that he was, as his aides tirelessly declared, a “different kind of Democrat.”
Clinton did so in a speech to Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition in which he criticized (and so immortalized) a hip-hop artist, Sister Souljah, for her inflammatory remarks about race. The new maxim -- a Sister Souljah Moment -- now stands for a calculated repudiation of an extreme individual or interest group aligned with a candidate’s political party, with the aim of demonstrating character and mettle.
“Romney could have used a Sister Souljah moment on Rush Limbaugh,” said Begala. “But Romney was a gutless wonder, and Clinton had cojones.”
But Romney had good reason for dodging the opportunity: His lead in the Republican presidential race remains fragile, and his more conservative foes are still winning states and delegates. Why give them the opportunity to question his devotion to the cause by going after a beloved right-wing icon?
Romney still has a problem with the far right, many of whose adherents lionize Limbaugh. In Ohio on Super Tuesday, Romney carried the “liberal” and the “moderate” and the “somewhat conservative” voters. But he lost the “very conservative” to Santorum, 48 to 30 percent.
Romney still needs to lock down the nomination, and there are states with very conservative electorates ahead -- Kansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas among them -- who might view a symbolic repudiation of a leading conservative spokesman with disfavor, if not anger.
As one Republican pollster took pains to point out, Clinton’s Sister Souljah moment came in June 1992 -- after he had clinched the Democratic nomination. “That small factoid gets lost in history,” the pollster said.
If Romney feels the need to demonstrate his valor, he and his staff could be better off finding a target who isn’t so beloved by the Republican base.
That was the strategy chosen by then-Vice President George Bush in 1988, in his “Tension City” showdown with CBS anchorman Dan Rather.
Like Romney, Bush was saddled with the image of a “wimp,” as a famous Newsweek cover called him. Like Romney, he was born to wealth and raised in the refined refuges of the rich and privileged. Like Romney, his natural manner was polite deference.
It is a sign of the incongruities of American politics -- and the emasculating effects of the vice presidency -- that this decorated Navy war hero faced such a problem, yet Bush did. He solved it by submitting to a live interview with CBS newsman Dan Rather, a conservative bête noir. In the nationally-televised showdown, Bush aggressively parried the newsman’s questions and challenged Rather’s professionalism.
“The American people have seen Rather push people around for 20 years, and the fact is that George Bush stood up to the guy and refused to be bullied and went toe-to-toe with him,” said Bush’s spokesman the following day.
The “wimp factor” died that night.
Moments like these are risky, and not so easy to manufacture. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., never could escape the knock that he was a trimmer -- the Romney of 2004.
But Romney should not be underestimated. In 20 presidential debates, he has performed coolly and capably and demonstrated -- in his evisceration of Newt Gingrich in Florida -- that he too can thrive in Tension City.
Look for it. It’s by far the better route than a Souljah moment.
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Does Romney Need a Sister Souljah Moment? - John Aloysius Farrell - NationalJournal.com

The Pope agrees with Dr. Ron Paul that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are not Just Wars.

The sad facts are in the system is pulling out all the stops against Ron Paul and the America people.

MSM Changes Rules in Not Reporting Ron Paul Winning U.S. Virgin Islands Caucus

A math lesson for the mainstream media:



http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/03/11/msm-changes-rules-in-not-reporting-ron-paul-winning-u-s-virgin-islands-caucus/

Ron Paul Wins U.S. Virgin Island Caucus

The media is reporting that Mitt Romney won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus when Ron Paul actually won the popular vote. Explains Business Insider’s Michael Brendan Dougherty in his piece:
“Ron Paul Just Won a Caucus But the Media is Telling you Mitt Romney Did”

Ron Paul won the GOP caucus in the Virgin Islands, or at least he won the most votes according to the Virgin Islands Republican Party.
Right now the count stands this way:

384 total cast
112 to Paul (29%)
101 to Romney (26%)
23 to Santorum (6%)
18 to Gingrich (5%)

But as with all caucuses it isn’t that simple.

The AP and others reported yesterday that Mitt Romney won the Virgin Islands caucus.

And they aren’t entirely wrong, because of the crazy rules that are around caucuses, Mitt Romney was able to qualify for more delegates, and win them. One of the “uncommitted” delegates also went to Romney.

So maybe the media isn’t entirely unjustified in saying Romney won it.

But we think they buried the real story…

It is the first territory where Paul has clearly beaten Romney in a popular vote…

Slate’s Dave Weigel also reports on the confusing/misleading reports that Romney won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus:

How did Paul get 11 more votes than Romney, but lose to him on delegates? It’s complicated. The Virgin Islands doesn’t portion out delegates by popular vote. Voters literally elect delegates– the six with the most support get to go to Tampa.

Here’s the deal: If the popular vote is what means a candidate has “won” a primary or caucus, then Ron Paul unquestionably won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus, in the same way Santorum “won” Iowa, Romney “won” New Hampshire, Gingrich “won” South Carolina, etc.

But if actual delegate counts as “winning”–as the media is portraying Romney’s “win” in the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus–then this proves what our campaign has been saying all along: That Ron Paul stands to collect more delegates than anyone realizes despite where the other candidates finished in each state’s straw poll.

If the popular vote means you’ve won, then Ron Paul just won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus. If collecting delegates equals victory, then Paul stands to do well there too.

The media is trying to have it both ways with Romney and the Virgin Island Caucus while ignoring Ron Paul’s actual straw poll first place victory.

Not that media duplicity is ever of any surprise to Paul and his supporters.

Ron Paul Wins U.S. Virgin Island Caucus*|*Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign CommitteeRon Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee

MASS MURDER: Why Are We Over There? U.S. Army Sergeant Opens Fire On Sixteen Afghan Civilians As They Sleep. WTF!

Submitted by AnAppealToHeavenWash on Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:13

BALANDI, Afghanistan — Moving from house to house, a U.S. Army sergeant opened fire Sunday on Afghan villagers as they slept, killing 16 people — mostly women and children — in an attack that reignited fury at the U.S. presence following a wave of deadly protests over Americans burning Qurans.

The attack threatened the deepest breach yet in U.S.-Afghan relations, raising questions both in Washington and Kabul about why American troops are still fighting in Afghanistan after 10 years of conflict and the killing of Osama bin Laden.

The slayings, one of the worst atrocities committed by U.S. forces during the Afghan war, came amid deepening public outrage spurred by last month’s Quran burnings and an earlier video purportedly showing U.S. Marines urinating on dead Taliban militants.

More on the mass murders here...

US Army sergeant kills 16 Afghan civilians in shooting spree, threatening US-Afghan relations - The Washington Post

MASS MURDER: Why Are We Over There? U.S. Army Sergeant Opens Fire On Sixteen Afghan Civilians As They Sleep. WTF! | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

I am so sorry Battle Buddy; we are trying to get you home and safe, but we were too late to help you.... stress and exaustion does terrible things to our soldiers; this was and still does fall onto the POTUS and the Congress ... this boy needs help and the real people that need to be on trial are in WASHINGTON D.C.



A military member (Capt Anonymous) speaks the truth about the War on Terror and current state of the US economy. Pleads for Americans to vote Ron Paul to end the War.