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    Ron Paul on Free Trade

    Trade sanctions never worked on Cuba, and won't work on Iran

    Q: You said about Iran: "Sanctions are not diplomacy; they are a precursor to war and an embarrassment to a country that pays lip service to free trade."
    A: Countries that you put sanctions on, you are more likely to fight them. I say a policy of peac is free trade. Stay out of their internal business. Don't get involved in these wars. And just bring our troops home.
    Q: So your policy towards Iran is, if they want to develop a nuclear weapon, that's their right, no sanctions?
    A: No, that makes it much worse. Why would that be so strange, if the Soviets and the Chinese have nuclear weapons? We tolerated the Soviets; we didn't attack them. And they were a much greater danger. You don't go to war against them. This whole idea of sanctions, all these pretend free traders, they're the ones who put on these trade sanctions. This is why we still don't have trade relationships with Cuba. It's about time we talked to Cuba and stopped fighting these wars that are about 30 or 40 years old. Source: Iowa Straw Poll 2011 GOP debate in Ames Iowa , Aug 11, 2011
    Fast-track cedes power from Congress to President

    Today, trade policy has been taken over by the executive branch and Congress graciously cedes this power. Transferring authority under fast-track legislation defies the intent of the Constitution. Trade treaties are not entered into, since senatorial approval by two-thirds would be required and more difficult to pass. This has led to international trade agreements such as WTO, NAFTA, and CAFTA that sacrifice national sovereignty to international government organizations. These agreements can supersede state laws as well. The Constitution assigns to the Congress the responsibility of regulating foreign trade. If the people and the Congress preferred that the President and international government entities control trade, the Constitution should have been amended. Ignoring the Constitution on these issues or any issue serves to undermine constitutional legitimacy. Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.111-112 , Apr 19, 2011
    I oppose trade organizations because of flawed fast-track

    I consider myself the most "radical" free trader in Congress, but I do not vote for international trade organizations. The process by which these agreements are passed is flawed. Generally, fast-track legislation is passed by Congress, and congressional authority over foreign commerce is transferred to the executive branch. The President then negotiates with other countries the details of how to lower tariffs or gives permission to retaliate for unfair trade practices. The only way the executive branch should be involved is to draft a treaty to be ratified by the Senate. Generally, this is an obstacle if the President is required to get 2/3 of the Senate to agree. It's easy to get a majority of each party to give approval to fast-track legislation. Since the Constitution is clear that Congress has the responsibility for foreign commerce, I don't believe the President should even attempt to regulate foreign trade by treaty. The President already has veto power over what Congress might pass. Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.298 , Apr 19, 2011
    Market can sort out mess created by central banks

    I recall a fascinating trip during my days as a Air Force flight surgeon. We stopped in Peshawar, Pakistan, for a shopping trip at the Afghan border.
    We could not enter Afghanistan. But nearby there was a huge cave set up as an exchange post with goods as numerous as a giant department store's. Russian and Eastern goods were sold, as well as American ad other Western goods. It was peaceful under the earth. Here the people were permitted to trade and converse (authorities on both sides knew of the underground market) because it served the interests of both, while up above, the Cold War raged.
    Governments & central banks mess things up, but the market, if it is permitted to operate, is capable of sorting out the mess even under duress. There will always be the underground, smugglers, and the black market, as long as we allow our governments to plunder and control us by making voluntary exchanges and associations illegal. It is government controls themselves that give us a rise to a black market. Source: End the Fed, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.119-120 , Sep 29, 2010
    Inflation is regressive & results in protectionism

    Inflation is the most vicious and regressive of all forms of taxation. It transfers wealth from the middle class to the privileged rich. The economic chaos that results from a policy of central bank inflation inevitably leads to political instability and violence. It's an ancient tool of all authoritarians.
    Inflating is never a benefit to freedom-loving people. It destroys prosperity; feeds the fires of war; & is responsible for recessions. It's deceptive & addictive, and causes delusions of grandeur. Wealth cannot be achieved by creating money by fiat.
    Depending on monetary fraud for national prosperity or a reversal of our downward spiral is riskier than depending on the lottery.
    Inflation has been used to pay for empires since ancient Rome. And they all end badly. Inflationism and corporatism engender protectionism and trade wars. They prompt scapegoating: blaming foreigners, illegal immigrants, ethnic minorities, and too often freedom itself for the predictable events and suffering that result Source: End the Fed, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.134 , Sep 29, 2010
    Free trade agreements threaten national sovereignty

    I opposed both the North American Free Trade Agreement and the World Trade Organization, both of which were heavily favored by the political establishment. Many supporters of the free trade market supported these agreements. Nearly six decades ago when the International Trade Organization was up for debate, conservatives and libertarians agreed that supranational trade bureaucracies with the power to infringe upon American sovereignty were undesirable. Source: The Revolution: A Manifesto, by Ron Paul, p. 96 , Apr 1, 2008
    FactCheck: NAFTA Superhighway not a conspiracy; it’s I-35

    On his campaign website, Paul describes the NAFTA Superhighway as “a ten-lane colossus the width of several football fields, with freight and rail lines, fiber-optic cable lines, and oil and natural gas pipelines running alongside.” According to Paul, th ultimate plan is to form a North American Union with a single currency and unlimited travel within its borders.
    The problem with Paul’s claim is that there are no plans to build a NAFTA Superhighway. Or a North American Union, for that matter.
    Paul cites a map from the North America’s SuperCorridor Organization (NASCO), which is a consortium of public and private entities. But the map does not show a new highway. Those bright blue lines show only I-35 and I-29--interstates that already exist. NASCO says it and some of the local governments along I-35 have been referring to that route as the “NAFTA Superhighway” for years. NASCO advocates improvements to existing roads, but is not lobbying for, or planning to build, any new thoroughfares. Source: FactCheck.org: AdWatch of 2008 TV Ad, “The Only One” , Feb 11, 2008

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    In His Own Words

    August 31, 2011
    by Bob Livingston


    Ron Paul has passed last month’s top flavor Michele Bachmann in the polls.

    August 31, 2011 by Bob Livingston

    Fox News’ Chris Wallace is finally treating Representative Ron Paul with the respect he deserves. Rather than try to paint him as a kook and hitting him with “gotcha” questions, Wallace gives an honest interview and allows Paul to answer his questions.
    Wallace also points out a fact the mainstream media are trying to ignore: Paul has passed last month’s top flavor Michele Bachmann in the polls, is gaining ground in the GOP field and is in a dead heat with President Barack Obama.
    If you say you believe in the Constitution and want a government that follows it but you don’t support Paul, I encourage you to watch this interview with an open mind. If you think you believe in the Constitution and freedom but still can’t support Paul after watching this interview, go back and reread (if you’ve ever actually read it) the document, because you certainly didn’t understand it the last time.
    After watching the interview, if you still can’t support Paul, I’d like to know why. But please, don’t say it’s because he’s an isolationist, as Paul shoots down that notion in the interview. Non-interventionist is not isolationist.
    This may be the most fruitful 14 minutes you spend vetting a candidate for the Republican nomination.

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b5fj...layer_embedded




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    Rick Perry, Frontrunner
    Texas Governor Vaults Into First Place


    Last month Rick Perry jumped ahead almost 11 points, this month he did it again. The newest entrant into the GOP presidential field amassed almost 30% of the Straw Poll votes in August, clearly outpacing his opponents. Congratulations Governor Rick Perry!

    Ron Paul's support finished relatively unchanged from last month, albeit this time in 2nd place. His support has remained steady without witnessing major fluctuations throughout the polling.

    Sarah Palin supporters may be giving up on their hopes that she will enter the race as she took the biggest hit this month losing 5.3 points. Herman Cain continues to drop but only by 1.7 points this time. Jon Huntsman climbed up from obscurity by finally registering 1% but that result was only good enough to beat out Thaddeus McCotter who continues to garner little support. After steadily gaining for 5 straight months Michele Bachmann finally regressed a bit by losing 3.2 points.



    For a complete archive of Straw Poll Results check out our Facebook Page. http://www.facebook.com/TownhallStrawPoll In the column underneath the picture on the left are results from January on.

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    There was a Watershed Election in 2010

    There was a Net Shift of 63 U.S House Seats from Democrat to Republican

    6 U.S. Senator seats went from Democrat to Republican

    19 State Legislature's went from Democrat to Republican

    6 Governors from Democrat to Republican

    700 State Legislature seats (Net) went from Democrat to Republican

    thats 1/2 of 1/3 of the Federal Government

    another 1/2 of 1/3 of the House and Senate to Include the POTUS is coming up for election in 2012

    Get those Govenors / State Legislature's as well

    VOTE WISELY GRASSHOPPER
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    Ron Paul Issues Statement on Libya

    Yet another unconstitutional and costly adventure

    August 25, 2011 05:29 PM Eastern Time


    LAKE JACKSON, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Today, 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul issued a statement on the situation in Libya. See comments below.
    “We have spent over $1 billion on a war that this administration has fought not with the consent of Congress but under a NATO flag and authorization from the United Nations.”
    “The current situation in Libya may be a short term victory for Empire, but it is a loss for our American Republic. And, I fear it may be devastating to the Libyan people.
    “There is no doubt that Moammar Gadhafi is a bad guy, and that he has brought harm and misery to his country. However, our involvement in another country’s civil war is costly and unconstitutional.
    “We have spent over $1 billion on a war that this administration has fought not with the consent of Congress but under a NATO flag and authorization from the United Nations.
    “It is a serious thing for a President to engage us in a war. He is bound by our Constitution to seek authority from the People, through our Congress, prior to engaging in any military action unless that action is to address an imminent threat to our safety and security. The situation in Libya is a civil war contained within that country’s sovereign borders, and it presented no imminent threat to the United States.
    “And so, our government continues to spend trillions of dollars in overseas foreign wars while we face unsustainable debt, a looming dollar crisis, and our Constitution seems to lose any meaning. These actions will sink our country if we do not reverse course.
    “Meanwhile, we must beware of any ‘Mission Accomplished’ euphoria. The conflict in Libya is far from over, and there could very well be war in Libya for a long time to come.
    “While I hope and pray that the hostility draws to a close and the people there find peace, I fear this is only wishful thinking. We face a situation where a rebel element we have been assisting may very well be radical jihadists, bent on our destruction, and placed in positions of power in a new government.
    “Worse still, Gadhafi's successor is likely to be just as bad, or worse, than Gadhafi himself. Alternately, Libya may descend into anarchy like Somalia after the overthrow of dictator Siad Barre. Much like when we removed Saddam Hussein, another thug in Iraq, the likelihood of either a new brutal dictatorship or tribal violence and a protracted insurgency are much more likely than the peaceful transition to democracy we are all hoping for.
    “With all these problems and the predictable chaos that will likely ensue, we must ask why this administration was so eager to embark on this Libyan operation in the name of ‘humanitarianism.’ Governments in Bahrain and Yemen have this year used military force to put down democratic protestors. The Saudi regime, which practices Sharia Law, has also been repressive, yet we have not intervened there. These countries continue to sell us oil, while Libya had begun to turn their exports toward Russia, China, India, and Brazil. Could this war largely be about protecting our oil interests at the expense of our Constitution?
    “This episode is all too familiar. We were already involved in two wars that have dragged on years longer than the people who led us into them initially predicted. We can no longer afford to police the world, in terms of both dollars and American lives. We will destroy ourselves if we do not stop, build a strong national defense at home, and focus on trade and commerce with the world instead of Empire.”

    Authorized and paid for by Ron Paul 2012 PCC. www.RonPaul2012.com

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    Why Vince Vaughn Supports Ron Paul

    By Jack Hunter Published: 12:01 PM 09/19/2011 | Updated: 10:10 AM 09/21/2011

    When Vince Vaughn telephoned Congressman Ron Paul about two and a half years ago, it was not because he was interested in becoming a political activist, although he was interested in a political issue. The Federal Reserve and its inherent problems had become of increasing concern to Vaughn, and he knew that Rep. Paul was one of the most outspoken critics of the United States’s central bank. Paul obliged Vaughn, recommending books and websites related to the actor’s questions, and the two began a relationship first based on shared philosophical interests which would develop into a friendship. Vaughn even invited Ron and his wife Carol to the premier of Vaughn’s movie “Couples Retreat” last year.

    I can tell you from first-hand experience that most of the congressman’s staffers and campaign workers were, until very recently, barely aware of this friendship. Both parties simply preferred to keep their relationship to themselves. For those who know Congressman Paul, his discreet and respectful manner comes as no surprise — and apparently, the same is true of Vince Vaughn.

    When Vaughn introduced Paul at the Liberty Political Action Conference in Reno, Nevada last week, it was not something the actor took lightly, knowing full well that introducing the 2012 GOP presidential candidate in a public forum would make national headlines. Of course, that was sort of the point. But whereas many Hollywood actors revel in their role as political activists, Vaughn did not particularly want to use his celebrity to promote his views or anyone else’s. Still, Vaughn had political concerns, as do most Americans, and felt it was appropriate and important to make his support for Paul known. It’s not as if Vaughn stood to garner any accolades from liberal Hollywood for supporting a conservative Republican trying to take Barack Obama’s job. It’s certainly not even that the actor would help his career by taking a public political stance, which obviously always carries some risk for anyone in the entertainment industry.

    No, Vaughn supported Paul simply because he felt it was the right thing to do. Vince stood behind Ron because he believes his ideas are what’s right for this country. This was not a backroom deal made for mutual benefit. This wasn’t even a backroom deal. Vaughn’s showing of public support for Paul was that of a concerned American, who just happens to be famous, who wanted to do what he thought was right and just. Vaughn did it as a philosophical ally and a friend, and he quite literally had nothing to gain personally from this — which is precisely what made it so special.

    Paul’s critique of the Federal Reserve and his promotion of the Austrian school of economics always has been, and remains, Vaughn’s primary attraction to the congressman’s philosophy. And he is certainly not alone. The conservative notion of not spending money you don’t have and empowering the free markets has enjoyed a resurgence in recent years. The son of a conservative Republican, Vaughn’s interest in restoring sound money as a return to fiscal sanity coincides with public fear of a national debt that now equals the gross domestic product. Vaughn’s promotion of Austrian economics coincides with growing American sentiment that the conventional solutions of federal stimulus, bailouts and bigger government do not work and have only made things worse.

    Many Democrats, and unfortunately more than a few Republicans, do not seem to have the appropriate sense of urgency on these issues. But Ron Paul does. So, apparently, does Vince Vaughn. So do, increasingly, a substantial portion of the American people.


    If Vaughn’s famous movie “Old School” is about middle-aged men reverting to what they considered a better time in their lives, Paul’s belief that we should return to the Constitution reflects an earnest desire to rediscover the founding principles that first made this country great: individual liberty over collectivism; state and local solutions over Washington solutions; sound money over an increasingly devalued dollar; a strong national defense over a costly and irrational offense.

    Such propositions are no longer radical to an American public that increasingly realizes politics-as-usual have failed to answer the most pressing problems of our day.

    Paul’s philosophy of liberty poses a direct challenge to the status quo of both parties, and that philosophy is spreading — whether judged by Paul’s continued strong double-digit performance in most national polls, continued competitive fundraising or the dominance of his ideas in this election.

    Indeed, by most measures, it’s safe to say that more Americans than ever are beginning to agree with Ron Paul. Vince Vaughn is simply another one of those Americans.
    Jack Hunter writes at the “Paulitical Ticker,” where he is the official Ron Paul 2012 campaign blogger.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/19/wh...#ixzz1hUjTceTx

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    Michael Savage interviews Ron Paul 8/18/11

    Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqw5nEmv ... re=related

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    What Did Rep. Paul Not Get to Say in Last Debate?

    Sep 26, 2011- 11:40

    Video: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/11838563 ... st-debate/

    Rep. Ron Paul, (R-Texas), visits Manhattan to talk about the debt, why the military loves him and what he didn't get to say in the last debate.

    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/11838...n-last-debate/
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    Jon Stewart's Extended Interview With Ron Paul

    Submitted by Tyler Durden
    09/27/2011 16:31 -0400
    Comments: 373 / Reads: 17,884

    About a month ago, after everyone in the wholly conflicted media (just ask one question: who pays all that advertising money - nuf said), on both the left and the right, was ignoring the most promising presidential candidate this country has had in decades, Jon Stewart decided to take Ron Paul under his wing, http://www.zerohedge.com/news/jon-stewa ... a-blackout and made it clear that while those who don't matter can pretend to ignore Ron, the one man who does, and who reaches more than most of the legacy "serious media" combined, has certainly noticed Paul. Naturally Stewart could have left it there, especially given his own personal political view. To his great credit, he did not. Instead last night in an extended exclusive interview, he presented Ron Paul in a way that he should have been presented from the beginning: no tricks, no gotchas, no gimmicks, no commercial breaks every 45 seconds. Hopefully this is the beginning of the transition of the Paul campaign to one where he has enough critical mass to be taken seriously by everyone - something "everyone" should be doing regardless.

    Exclusive - Ron Paul Extended Interview Pt. 1
    Monday September 26, 2011
    Views: 144,506 / 79 comments
    Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul believes his political message is a threat to the establishment.
    Video at the link: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-s ... view-pt--1

    Exclusive - Ron Paul Extended Interview Pt. 2
    Monday September 26, 2011
    Views: 88,221 / 53 comments
    Ron Paul believes the war on drugs is a violation of Americans' civil liberties and trusts that people can make their own choices.
    Video at the link: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-s ... view-pt--2

    Exclusive - Ron Paul Extended Interview Pt. 3
    Monday September 26, 2011
    Views: 82,501 / 184 comments
    Ron Paul believes that property rights would better protect the environment than federal laws
    Video at the link: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-s ... view-pt--3


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