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    Ron Paul in a new poll !

    Submitted by Walty on Sun, 05/06/2012 - 00:27
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    Is there a way for the Paul campaign (or us, the grassroots, or a PAC) to pay a private, reputable, independent polling company to conduct a serious nationwide poll of Paul vs. Obama, or just in the swing states, to see which way they would go if it where Obama vs. Paul? This is what we need, in my opinion.

    The people backing Romney mainly do so just because they "think" he has the best chance of beating Obama! If we could PROVE that it is actually Ron Paul that can best beat Obama, AND get some media exposure (maybe a campaign ad built around it in some of the up coming states, or flyers to the 4% of the population that votes in the primary) THIS alone could put us over the top! Face it, Romney supporters are NOT looking at the issues, record, consistency, integrity, honesty, or stances of their candidate, they're just are not that involved! The thing they have most in common is that the TeeVee told them Romney had the best chance at beating Obama, that's it!

    Imagine a "scary" commercial of Obama being sworn in, the date is Jan. 20th, 2013, ominous music plays, two Republicans are talking, they say "Why didn't we pay attention to the polls, it was obvious months ago?" They turn and walk away as the sky darkens, the TeeVee shows a newspaper blowing in the wind and zooms in showing a poll with Paul winning over Obama 49 to 43, and Romney losing to Obama 45 to 46! FEAR, it's what motivates people and moves them!

    Check out this poll: RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Battle for White House

    Romney is going to get shellacked!

    If the republican base could be informed of one simple issue, the fact that Paul wins and Mitt loses, it could turn this race around OVER NIGHT! If you see the logic here, vote this UP! We HAVE to start WINNING!

    PS. If ANYONE from the campaign reads this, what can we Texas state delegates do to get Ron Paul to speak at our convention like he did for Nevada?

    Ron Paul in a new poll ! | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012


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    Drocton Report:
    Mitt Romney's Police State


    Herr Schliegel-Mittster

    While innocent American citizens are being turned into criminals by the 1%, Mitt Romney has proven his loyalty to the global police state.


    "Of all the governors that we worked with, he was by far one of the most proactive and engaged in the country," said Joshua Filler, the Homeland Security director of the Office of State and Local Government Coordination from 2003 to 2005." (Source)

    If you want to catch a criminal, hire another criminal. If you want to catch a terrorist, well...

    "...some of the most controversial aspects of the U.S. intelligence apparatus constructed after Bush declared war on terrorism have Romney's fingerprints on them. As governor, he pushed for vast data-mining centers, wiretapping of mosques, spying on foreign students and enlisting average citizens to keep tabs on fellow Americans. Romney has vowed to continue the policies as president." (Ibid)

    No word on whether Herr Schliegel-Mittster wiretapped the Central Intelligence Agency or the Federal Reserve Bank. Our on the ground reporter is still searching Bain Capital for surveillance cameras.

    "After arriving at the Massachusetts State House, Romney put what he learned into practice. He set up two of the country's first fusion centers, the controversial data-mining hubs that vacuum up and share intelligence from local, state and federal agencies and the private sector to detect terrorist plots. To some, the fusion centers suggest a Big Brother surveillance state." (Ibid)

    The President of the United States swears to defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Not destroy them. According to the 4th Amendment:

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    In other words, innocent until proven guilty guarantees that American Citizens cannot be put under surveillance without probable cause that they have committed, or are about to commit a crime. Fusion Centers, Surveillance Cameras, Data Mining, TSA groping and other Police State intrusions are unconstitutional.

    In the movie, 'Minority Report', psychics were used to predict future crimes and people were arrested and imprisoned on their word alone. Who needs psychics when you have Fusion Centers? The psychics, by the way, got it wrong in the movie. That was the whole point.

    "As the co-chair of a National Governors Association task force on homeland security and as head of a national Homeland Security Advisory Council task force, he urged state and local agencies to join the federal government in stepped-up intelligence gathering.

    ''The eyes and ears which gather intelligence need to be as developed in our country as they were in foreign countries during the Cold War,'' Romney said in 2005. ''Meter readers, EMS drivers, law enforcement, private sector personnel need to be on the lookout for information which may be as useful.'' (Source)

    The countries Romney refers to are Communist Russia and East Germany. Both were notorious for executing individuals because they fit the 'profile' of being a threat to the Communist Regime. Mitt Romney has criminalized both religion (Islam) and legitimate political dissent. Today Moslems are the target of his hatred, tomorrow it will be Christians that oppose the Homosexual Agenda on religious grounds.

    In the end, Amerika, which has been plundered by Romney and his ilk, will prove to be one giant Gulag competing with China for 93 cent per hour jobs. All to serve the Pirates and Thieves that are bleeding the citizens of planet earth.

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    There is NO Differance between the Blue Team and the Red Team; there never was

    Blue Team - Elite Democrat Politicians
    Red Team - Elite Republican Politicians

    Looking at the dead America Carcus .. the Red Team waits until the Blue Team get's it's fill

    That will come after the Election of 2012;

    The Blue Team will then stand idle while the Red Team gorge's on the Carcus

    Rinse and Repeat

    Both Team Blaming the Other while muscle tissue is ripped from the American fiber

    America is too screwed in the head to stop it and too drugged up on Prescription / Illegal Drugs to even know what is happening

    Turn on Dancing with the Stars; pop a couple more pills, fall to sleep in the recliner America... It's almost over
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    double post; just deleting the first
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    Drocton Report: Romney Caught up in $8 Billion Ponzi Scheme?

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    Mitt Romney and his campaign are trying desperately to distance themselves from an $8 billion dollar Ponzi scheme. According to court documents:

    "On March 6, 2012, Robert Allen Stanford, the former Board of Directors Chairman of Stanford International Bank (SIB), was found guilty of orchestrating a 20-year investment fraud scheme in which he misappropriated $7 billion to finance his personal businesses and lifestyle.

    Following a six-week trial, the jury found Stanford guilty on 13 of 14 counts in the indictment. Stanford was convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud, four counts of wire fraud, five counts of mail fraud, one count of conspiracy to obstruct a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) investigation, one count of obstruction of an SEC investigation and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering. Stanford was acquitted on one count of wire fraud (Count 2: 18 U.S.C. § 1343).

    Mr. Stanford is scheduled to be sentenced on June 14, 2012 at 10:00 a.m. in Courtroom 8A, 8th Floor, before U.S. District Court Judge David Hittner, United States Courthouse, 515 Rusk Avenue, Houston, Texas. Mr. Stanford faces a maximum prison sentence of 20 years for the count of conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud, each count of wire and mail fraud, and the count of conspiracy to commit money laundering, and five years for the count of conspiracy to obstruct an SEC investigation and the count of obstruction of an SEC investigation." (Source)



    Now back to Romney:

    "Mitt Romney, his son Tagg, and Romney’s chief fundraiser, Spencer Zwick, have extensive financial and political ties to three men who allegedly participated in an $8.5 billion Ponzi scheme. A few months after the Ponzi scheme collapsed, a firm financed by Mitt Romney and run by his son and chief fundraiser partnered with the three men and created a new “wealth management business” as a subsidiary. (Source)

    Apparently the Mittster and his son Tagg were so impressed with the collapse of the Stanford Ponzi Scheme that they partnered with three of the men who purportedly helped bring it about:

    "After news of the Ponzi scheme precipitated the collapse of Stanford in 2009, Tagg partnered with several of Stanford’s North Carolina executives to start a firm called Solamere Advisors.

    At least three prominent brokers who had worked for Stanford — Tim Bambauer, Deems May, and Brandon Phillips — joined Tagg to help run Solamere Advisors, a wealth management business located in Charlotte, North Carolina. “We are excited to be associated with such a highly capable group of financial advisors with a proven track record of meeting the needs of their clients throughout the Southeast,” said Tagg in a press release announcing Solamere Advisors, which borrows its the name from its parent company, Solamere Capital.

    The Mittster put up the 10 million that his son needed to start the company and his campaign manager has made about 2 million so far off of his business relationship with Solamere. I am sure that when he handed over the 10 million, Mitt counseled Tagg on the importance of due diligence and surrounding himself with the right people. No-one knows business like Mitt Romney.

    Not everyone lost money with Stanford:

    "On May 18, 2010, the Receiver filed an additional Complaint Against Certain Stanford Investors. Specifically, the Receiver asserted fraudulent-transfer and, in the alternative, unjust-enrichment claims against an additional 65 investors whom he has identified as having received CD Proceeds from Stanford International Bank, Ltd. (SIBL) in excess of their total investments — that is, investors who received not only amounts equal to their principal investment, but also additional amounts in the form of purported interest or other payments. Collectively, these 65 investors received over $41.8 million in total CD Proceeds, with over $6.9 million of the total representing amounts they received in excess of their investments....

    In total, the Receiver has sued 844 investors who received funds in excess of their SIBL investments. All combined, these 844 investors received over $1.23 billion from SIBL, with over $216.1 million of the total representing amounts they received in excess of their investments. The Receiver continues to encourage all investors who are interested in discussing settlement to contact the Receiver's counsel to arrange for the return of the funds they received in excess of their investments." (Source)

    The three executives Romney "cherry picked" from Stanford are Tim Bambauer, Deems May and Brandon Phillips. Tagg has tried to downplay the three men's involvement with Stanford:

    "Tagg Romney confirmed their business relationship, but falsely claimed that the men were cleared of any wrongdoing associated with the Ponzi scheme. Tagg Romney told ThinkProgress that his three partners collected about $15,000 from their involvement in the Ponzi scheme. Court documents obtained by ThinkProgress show that the legal proceedings are ongoing and the men made over $1.6 million selling fraudulent CDs to investors." (Source)

    Hey, if they could do it for Stanford, why not for Romney? Documents show that the Court appointed Receiver is trying to disgorge commissions made by those that sold the fraudulant securities. Much more to come on this one, folks....

    http://pauldrockton.com/Romneyponzi.html
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    Kissinger Promises China... 'Jeb Bush Will Be Next President'! A Must Read!!!

    Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:31

    Kissinger Promises China... 'JEB BUSH Will Be Next President'!
    Submitted by SadInAmerica

    'A shocking report prepared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for Prime Minister Putin on the just completed meeting between China’s Vice Premier Li Keqiang and former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger states that the Chinese were told that former Florida Governor John Ellis “Jeb” Bush , brother to the former US President and son of another, will be elected as the next American leader despite his currently not even being on the ballot.

    Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping met with Jeb Bush yesterday at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing where both pledged to advance cooperation between their two countries and, this report says, agreed that once Bush had taken office a ‘new era’ would begin in US-China relations.

    Jeb Bush - Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping

    According to this report, Kissinger told Keqiang that the Republican Party election process to select their nominee to run against President Obama was “completely manipulated” to ensure that their 2012 Convention would be “deadlocked” thus allowing for Jeb Bush to be nominated as a “consensus candidate” and thus his parties leader.

    The path to a deadlocked convention, this report says Kissinger told the Chinese, lies in neither current Republican frontrunners Governor Mitt Romney or Congressman Ron Paul having enough delegates to ensure their nomination on the first ballot after which their supporters will be free to nominate anyone they so choose.

    In order to ensure a deadlocked convention, this report continues, Kissinger noted that Romney will obtain his delegates from what are called Primary States while Paul will receive his from those holding caucuses and “open” primaries, with neither of them receiving enough votes to secure their nominations.

    Political analysis on the US election do, indeed, note that Paul’s path to the Republican nomination lies in the caucus and open primary States which shows what is called his “secret path to victory.”

    Henry Kissinger

    To the most shocking aspects of this report are the comments attributed to Kissinger that claim the entire American electoral system is under the control of their National Security Agency (NSA ) which controls the computers used in their elections and whose outcome is determined by their elites, not the citizens themselves.

    In a dire move bolstering Kissinger’s claim of a rigged US election was yesterdays news that the giant global election firm SCYTL , which describes itself as the worldwide leader in secure electronic voting and electoral modernization, had purchased the United States most dominant election results reporting company thus insuring these people would never have true or total access as to who would actually win any of their elections.

    Even worse, this report continues, the purchase by SCYTL of the private corporate site controlled by SOE software , which operates under the name ClarityElections.Com and controls the election results in over 525 US jurisdictions , was its being financed by the global investment giant Carlyle Group that was founded by the Bush and Bin Laden families nearly 25 years ago.

    When queried by Chinese officials as to why Obama was allowed to be elected instead of Jeb Bush in the last US election, this report continues, Kissinger replied that the American public was not prepared for a continuation of the Bush-Clinton Dynasties that have, in fact, ruled the United States since the 1981 coup d'état staged against President Ronald Regan after he was nearly assassinated by the son of the then Vice President George H.W. Bush’s main business partner .

    Kissinger further stated to the Chinese, this report says, that Obama was a “safe choice” to be an “interim leader” as besides his being a member of the Bush family (Obama is former President George W. Bush’s cousin by blood ) his mother, Ann Dunham/Soetoro , was a “prized” CIA asset who was dispatched from Hawaii to Indonesia in 1967, along with seven year-old Barack Obama, to infiltrate villages in Java to carry out a CIA survey of political leanings among the Javanese population and whose “handler ” was George H.W. Bush who a few years later became Director of the Central Intelligence Agency .

    Kissinger added, this report says, that by putting Obama in office they were, also, able to secure the passing of draconian new laws in the United States that otherwise wouldn’t have been allowed to pass due to the overwhelming objections of American liberals and progressives, but who now are all but silent as the last vestiges of the US Constitution are being swept away.

    Being ignored by these American liberals and progressives, however, are that the laws being passed by the Obama regime are intended to be used against them and include the power of the US President to designate anyone he so chooses as a “terrorist,” kill them without charges or trial, hold American citizens in prison, also without charges or trial, and, under a new law being pushed through the US Congress, would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being “hostile” against the United States.

    Though the claims made by Kissinger to China detailing how the election process in the United States has now been completely destroyed are beyond appalling, it does not, on the other hand, come as surprising from a “war criminal” who once boasted “It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.”

    To the American people themselves it remains to be seen if they will ever awaken to what is true…one can only hope they will, before all is lost…forever.'

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    Rally count: Romney vs Paul

    Submitted by phubner on Sun, 05/06/2012 - 03:11
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    Mitt needs a fair shake! Here are three views of his April 30 South Carolina event. The first pic should be familiar, its been posted before. The previous post said somewhere "A ladder was removed so press couldn't take a picture showing the actual crowd".

    http://deadlinelive.info/2012/04/30/...-sleepy-crowd/

    Second is...(wait for it) a pic from the Ladder

    Mitt Romney's Desperate Attempt to Show He Has Real Supporters Too - YouTube



    Lastly is a 360deg panorama that shows everything in the room.

    360 Panorama

    So see? Mitt has rallies too (poor thing..)

    http://www.dailypaul.com/231224/rall...romney-vs-paul
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    Ron Paul’s Mega Crowds… No Media Coverage!

    Ron Paul’s mega crowds… no Media coverage!

    by Jacque Fresco


    Did you honestly think the Ron Paul revolution would be televised? Here’s a check on reality as to who is really the #1 presidential nominee for 2012.

    Whilst the supposed front runner Romney barely gets over 100 people to a rally, Gingrich and Santorum after talking to empty rooms of 30 people, one man has been pulling in the masses. That man is Ron Paul.Ron Paul is the only one in polls who can and would beat Obama, the NWO puppet.
    “Freedom is popular” – Ron Paul
    His message of individual liberty and freedom to all is growing a worldwide following.
    People are taking heed to the liberty movement as Ron Paul and others expose the criminality of our governments and institutions that have enslaved us for so long.
    He has the #1 support from not only the troops who no longer wish to be at war, he also has the support of the youth. The intellectual revolution has begun…
    Ron Paul Rallies Feb-Apr 2012:








































    SOURCE: HANG THE BANKERS

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