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    Did Ron Paul Really Win Iowa?

    Reports Business Insider:
    DES MOINES — Ron Paul may have officially come in third… but if the campaign’s caucus strategy went off as planned, then Paul may actually be the real winner of the first Republican voting contest.

    That’s because Paul’s massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.
    That’s because Iowa’s Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

    “Part of what we’ve been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote,” Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. “Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates…”

    By the eve of Election Day, Hay said she was confident that Paul would come away from Iowa with a strong majority of the state’s delegates. It’s a good first step toward making sure that Paul has a strong presence on the floor in Tampa this summer — something that his supporters believe will help force the Republican party to start reckoning with their Movement.

    UPDATE: 1:40 a.m.
    Sources close to the Paul campaign indicated Tuesday that they were happy with their delegate count. Although we couldn’t get specific numbers, a source told Business Insider that Paul nailed down the delegates in all of Iowa’s smaller counties, and made a strong showing in several larger ones.

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    Rick Santorum’s Cafeteria Catholicism

    On Bill O’Reilly’s FOX News program Wednesday night, Rick Santorum found himself defending his views on contraception. Reports Mediaite:

    “It’s going to be a national demonization and you’re going to be portrayed as an extremist,” O’Reilly explained, “and some of your views are out of the mainstream according to polls.” He noted in particular that 98% of Americans support the freedom to use contraceptives, while Santorum believes states have a right to ban them. Santorum noted that the Vatican had restricted the use of them and that he believed states that approved of them should be able to legalize them as well.

    Added Santorum: Bill, you’re a Catholic, Catholic Church teaches contraceptive is something you shouldn’t do.

    O’Reilly continued to chide Santorum for his supposedly “extreme” views, but I applaud the Senator. There should be more Americans willing to stick to their faith even when it is unpopular or they stand in the minority. There was a time when more Americans agreed with Santorum about contraception. This doesn’t necessarily make Santorum’s position any more or less right or wrong, only more or less popular. Big difference.

    But the problem with Santorum is he picks and chooses when to stick to his Catholic faith. The Vatican is so dedicated to protecting life that it looks down on contraception, but the same is true of its view of “preventive war.” There is a time for war, says Catholic teaching, but only as a last resort and only in accordance with the Church’s Just War Theory

    When Cardinal Ratzinger was asked whether a U.S. led war on Iraq would be “just war” he replied before it started: ”Certainly not… the damage would be greater than the values one hopes to save.”

    Ratzinger added: “All I can do is invite you to read the Catechism, and the conclusion seems obvious to me… the concept of preventive war does not appear in The Catechism of the Catholic Church.”

    When Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI, he said during his Easter message in 2008: Nothing positive comes from Iraq, torn apart by continual slaughter as the civil population flees…”

    Catholic leaders generally said that America’s decision to attack the Taliban in Afghanistan in 2001 was a just war because the U.S. was defending itself after 9/11. Ron Paul, a devout Christian who also subscribes to Christian teaching on just war, also voted to go to war with Afghanistan after 9/11.

    But both Pope Benedict and his predecessor Pope John Paul II agreed that the Iraq War did not qualify as a “just war.” Paul agreed with the Vatican. Here Paul echoes the Catholic Church’s position on preventive war:



    Santorum has called Paul’s foreign policy everything from dangerous to crazy. But is the Catholic Church “dangerous?” Is the Vatican “crazy?”

    Santorum was a strong advocate for the Iraq War and still champions the concept of preventive war.

    Santorum should be applauded for sticking to his faith and Church teaching on contraception. But perhaps he should be consistent and begin to apply that teaching to his foreign policy as well.

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    Jan 5, 2012
    "After the vote was completed, the results were tabulated in an "an undisclosed location." Then, ballots mysteriously went "missing." Fox News anchors began repeating tall tales of someone in a pickup truck driving the results around the state's backroads. (The story turned out to be erroneous.) Although bemused and punchy, none seemed particularly concerned about ballots missing from the ballot place.

    When the vote total showed Sen. Rick Santorum up by four votes, Karl Rove announced on Fox that he had gotten news from the Republican National Committee in New York that Mitt Romney's votes had been "undercounted" in two precincts in Story County. In Clinton County, the official vote count was missing, but representatives of the Romney and Santorum campaigns said they had verified the totals hours earlier; they had no idea why the votes had been reported missing."

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    http://patdollard.com/​2012/01/​gop-ignores-voting-irregula​rities-in-iowa-caucuses/

    REMEMBER, IT WAS ROVE WHO ALSO CALLED THE 2000 VOTE FOR BUSH IN FLORIDA!
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    Did Ron Paul Really Win Iowa?

    Reports Business Insider:
    DES MOINES — Ron Paul may have officially come in third… but if the campaign’s caucus strategy went off as planned, then Paul may actually be the real winner of the first Republican voting contest.

    That’s because Paul’s massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates — the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.
    That’s because Iowa’s Republican caucuses are non-binding — they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

    “Part of what we’ve been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote,” Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. “Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates…”

    By the eve of Election Day, Hay said she was confident that Paul would come away from Iowa with a strong majority of the state’s delegates. It’s a good first step toward making sure that Paul has a strong presence on the floor in Tampa this summer — something that his supporters believe will help force the Republican party to start reckoning with their Movement.

    UPDATE: 1:40 a.m.
    Sources close to the Paul campaign indicated Tuesday that they were happy with their delegate count. Although we couldn’t get specific numbers, a source told Business Insider that Paul nailed down the delegates in all of Iowa’s smaller counties, and made a strong showing in several larger ones.

    http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/01/0...ally-win-iowa/

    I believe there was definitely some hanky panky regarding counting the votes, but we knew this was going to happen.
    As Aristotle said, “Tolerance and apathy are the first virtue of a dying civilization.â€

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    DRONES, NOT MARINES



    http://drudgereport.com/


    DRONES, NOT MARINES
    Obama strategy cuts defense spending dramatically...
    Couldn't fight two wars at same time...
    USA has 'turned page'...
    Pentagon defends...
    FRICTION...
    President plans to cut half a million troops...

    All of of these articles above are links

    and here are my questions to the GOP as well as the other candidates that are saying Ron Paul is WEAK on Defense

    1. Somebody in the GOP better start bitching; your WHOLE PREMISE is that Ron Paul is weak on Defense; he is the OPPOSITE and its called a NON-INTERVENTIONALIST

    I read these articles above as TREASON ... How bout You Mitt; How About you Rick

    2. Someone needs to be on the carpet over this shit

    3. Speak up or dont even think about attacking Paul over your short comings
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    Obama To Share Missle Defense Secrets With Russia

    http://www.alipac.us/threads/247387-...ts-With-Russia

    anybody going to say anything from the G.O.P. or does that fake question only come up at Debate Talking points that go no further than that stage and is then forgotten about by 99% of the Politicians

    Obama is threatning to Ignight WWIII by Attacking Iran / Syria / Russia and China ... and... anybody
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7 View Post
    Obama To Share Missle Defense Secrets With Russia

    http://www.alipac.us/threads/247387-...ts-With-Russia

    anybody going to say anything from the G.O.P. or does that fake question only come up at Debate Talking points that go no further than that stage and is then forgotten about by 99% of the Politicians

    Obama is threatning to Ignight WWIII by Attacking Iran / Syria / Russia and China ... and... anybody


    Control over the world populous anyway they can get it....drones not military...now does that tell us the soldiers are getting tired of their controlling wars....




    The General' looks real happy doesn't he? Hey Pannetta and Obummer go crab your flack gear and hop to it. These two guys are having a party and no one wants to go...what ever will happen next?????


    PSSSSSSSTTTTTTT What about our Borders are they secure yet??????? Sempa Fi and all that good stuff.....

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