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Oath Keepers Support Marine Vet Brandon Raub, Victim of Soviet Style Pre-crime Detention

Submitted by go213mph on Wed, 08/22/2012 - 16:42

Oath Keepers to Rally in Support of Marine Veteran Brandon Raub, Victim of Soviet Style Pre-crime Detention.

Read below or visit the following link to read on the Oath Keepers website

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/08/20/former-marine-sergean...

MESSAGE FROM STEWART RHODES, FOUNDER OF OATH KEEPERS:

Oath Keepers is coming to the aid of this young Marine veteran and our rallying cry will be "CHARGE HIM, OR RELEASE HIM." We cannot allow "mental illness" designations to be used as a weapon against political dissidents in America.

See the below article by Brandon Smith for the disturbing facts regarding the use of mental health detention against Virginia Marine veteran Brandon Raub because of his constitutionally protected free speech on his Facebook page.

As Brandon Smith illustrates, this is exactly what the Soviet Union did to dissidents who dared to criticize the communist regime - they were labeled "insane" and carted off to mental wards.

Now it has begun here in America.

This is a blatant circumvention of constitutional criminal due process which is every bit as dangerous as being designated an "unlawful combatant" under the NDAA and taken away to a military brig for detention without charges. How is this any different? Mental health detention can be used in exactly the same way.

This is an incredibly dangerous crossing of a critical line in the sand - the politicization of the mental health system, using it as a weapon against dissidents to punish them for their constitutionally protected political speech. This case is the camel's nose under the tent, and we need to stomp on it HARD, right now. And we will.

Brandon Raub has very competent local legal counsel provided by the Rutherford Institute.

If you would like to donate to his legal defense, go to https://www.rutherford.org/donate/ and be sure to add a note that your donation is for the Raub case.

Oath Keepers has offered to write an amicus brief if the Rutherford attorneys think it will help, but our primary goal is to compliment their legal efforts with as many boots on the ground as we can muster to go there in person and rally in outspoken support of this brother veteran.While the case is being tried in the legal courts, we will try it in the court of public opinion and bring as much public pressure to bear as possible.

Last night, Oath Keepers leadership, including both national and Virginia Oath Keepers leaders, spoke with Attorney John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute and also with Brandon Raub's Mother, Cathleen Thomas.We will be coordinating closely both with his legal team and with his family to support Brandon in any way possible.

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Shenanigans? LA Ronvoy Departure Suffers 4 Hour Delay

Submitted by Phoenix_Meetup_... on Wed, 08/22/2012 - 17:36

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It's been one hectic morning here in Phoenix as I finish packing for Tampa. Along with assisting the broken-down Arizona Delegates in an RV in El Paso, Texas, I have kept close contact with the Los Angeles RONVOY which was scheduled to depart at 9:00 a.m.

It seems that Avis denied SEVEN credit cards in a row when they tried to pay for their reserved 12-passenger van arranged through Revolution Travel Management.

They had to go somewhere else.

They were told that none of the 'credit checks' they did on customers would allow release of the vehicle to them.

Seven. I wonder who own Avis? Connections? Who knows.

Now we're 4 hours behind schedule, but at least they're rolling.

It Kinda feels like the chewed-and-spit-up gumball rally - who will make it to Tampa first?
Laughing out loud and still packing,

Ed in Phoenix

Shenanigans? LA Ronvoy Departure Suffers 4 Hour Delay | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution

LibertyUSA PAC finds Hard Evidence of Election Rigging in Lake County, IL: the Cheating IS Inside the Voting Machines

Submitted by Dr.K.Research on Wed, 08/22/2012 - 19:15
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We did far better in the election than is recognized. So did, apparently, Gingrich and Santorum. Tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of Paul votes,as well as votes for these other two candidates, were purged through vote rigging in the the Romney-favoring machines. This occurred largely at the precinct level. In other words, the machines were maliciously programmed to cheat all candidates in favor of Romney.

Paul was merely one of the victims.

There is great proof of this in Illinois in a wide range of counties, including Kane, Cook, DuPage, and Lake.


The anomaly is found in the delegate counts, which reflects theft of votes from Paul, Santorum, and Gingrich but none from Romney. In an analysis of 131 precincts, which is highly statistically significant, there were NO delegate vote counts where there were a greater amount of delegate than candidate votes for Mitt Romney, while for Ron Paul there were 114 incidents. For Gingrich there were a whopping 150 incidents and for Santorum 47. The vote anomalies are 138, 174, and 62 respectively, because, again, always the amount of total delegate votes compared to candidate votes is lower.


UPDATE: This means that at a minimum in these precincts there were the same number of votes stolen for each of the respective candidates. Moreover, the fact that this never occurred with Romney in this sample further proves the rigging.
It is greater than this, though. This is because as a rule there are nearly always more candidate votes than delegate votes, as shown by the unrigged Romney sample.

There may also be some anomalies in the Romney counts, but they are insignificant compared to those for the other candidates. Furthermore, the ballot is simple;

there could be little or no accounting for this based on voter confusion. In one case no votes were shown in a precinct for Paul yet one of his delegates got, incredibly, two votes.


For a thorough analysis of Lake County, Illinois, see:
http://www.libertyusapac.org/wordpresspac/2012/08/22/spreads...

Please donate generously to the PAC. It is going for a good cause and funds are greatly needed. For now, donate to the delegate button, which funds both the delegate needs and the fight against election rigging.


This is an exceedingly crucial finding. More hands are needed on deck. All counties in Illinois must be analyzed. The same spreadsheet can be used for all.

Furthermore, there is a need to do the same in all states, where delegates were voted in the primary such as Rhode Island and PA. Please volunteer on the volunteer button, www.libertyusapac.org

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Passed by a REPUBLICAN Led Congress
Passed by a Democrat Led Senate
Signed by a Marxist POTUS
Approved by RINO Mitt Romney on National T.V.
There Is NO Change Coming



Time for the Bonus Question:

Of the 3 candidates in the race for POTUS; Barack Obama, Mitt Romney or Ron Paul

Which of the 3 will NOT open up the FEMA Camps, Impose Martial Law, Turn the Armed Forces Loose On the American Public, Use 30,000 Drones in American Air Space against it's citizens, Start WWIII by attacking Nation after Nation, while building up the Armed Forces whose budget is already larger than all of the rest of the countries in the world combined while Bankrupting the Country?

Hint: It won't be the Individual that FOLLOWS the Constitution of the United States

Romney Calls for Year's Delay on Spending Cuts

Friday, 03 Aug 2012 04:13 PM

Romney Calls for Year's Delay on Spending Cuts <---Link


Meet Mr. Irrelevant



Doesnt Have a Clue on Monetary Policy

and that Put's him Right Along Side Obama

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The current view of the 2012 presidential election, based on HuffPost Pollster charts and analysis.

Updated: Wednesday, Aug. 22 4:32 pm ET

Obama 257 Electoral Votes <---- BINGO's gone Wooo Hooo

Romney 191 Electoral Votes


270 electoral votes needed to win

Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map

The GOP and RNC have a Suicide Run~Away Train happening and they just dont get it... Romney, just like McCain wasnt picked to Win; he was picked by the Elites to knock out any and all contenders against Obama

These 2 ~ Obama / Romney are Globalists and the Elite have hedged their Bets... there is NO change Coming

It will be a Democrat win and just like Dubya Bush... it will destroy the Conservative Movement and Gut the Republican Party

Obama vs Romney

Last Updated: 8/22

State	Pollster	Poll Date	Obama	Romney
New Mexico	Rasmussen Reports	8/21-8/21	52%	38%
National	Rasmussen Tracking	8/19-8/21	44%	46%
Nevada	LVRJ/SurveyUSA	8/16-8/21	47%	45%
National	Gallup Tracking	8/15-8/21	45%	47%
Vermont	Castleton State College	8/11-8/21	62%	25%
Montana	Rasmussen Reports	8/20-8/20	38%	55%
National	NBC/Wall St. Jrnl	8/16-8/20	48%	44%
National	Assoociated Press/GFK	8/16-8/20	47%	46%
Wisconsin	Marquette University	8/16-8/19	49%	46%
Massachusetts	PPP	8/16-8/19	55%	39%
Wisconsin	PPP	8/16-8/19	47%	48%
National	Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun	8/15-8/19	46%	45%
New York	Siena	8/14-8/19	62%	33%
Michigan	Baydoun/Foster	8/16-8/16	44%	48%
Wisconsin	Rasmussen Reports	8/15-8/15	47%	48%

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THE AGE OF RON PAUL

By Chuck Baldwin
August 16, 2012
NewsWithViews.com

This weekend, I will be a speaker at the giant "PAUL Festival" taking place in Tampa, Florida. Some of the most notable liberty-minded constitutionalists in the country will also be speaking. It is going to be quite a gathering. See the Paul Festival website here.

With the PAUL Festival fresh on my mind, I am reminded of a column written by Juan Williams at TheHill.com. Before referencing Mr. Williams' fine column, it should be no surprise to readers of this column of my undying respect and support for the man who has inspired the PAUL Festival (and so much more): Congressman Ron Paul of Texas.

In 2008, I actively campaigned for Dr. Paul's Presidential campaign in South Carolina, Alabama, Florida, and Iowa. I have written numerous columns in support of the man I call The Greatest Congressman In US History. I have spoken on the same platform with Congressman Paul on more than one occasion and consider him a true American statesman.

I was deeply honored when Dr. Paul endorsed me in 2008 after John McCain had won the GOP primary and I had become the Constitution Party candidate for President. Do I agree with Dr. Paul on every issue? Of course not. No two people are going to agree on everything. However, taken on the whole, Ron Paul has done more for the cause of liberty and constitutional government than any man in the 20th Century. In fact, as Juan Williams observes, America has now entered "The age of Ron Paul."

Williams writes, "Now he [Ron Paul] will leave the national political scene quietly, although he probably had a hand in getting a coveted convention speech slot for his son, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky).

"Sen. Paul may give his dad a final shout out from the podium.

"Ron Paul deserves more.

"In presidential debates, and until his last days in Congress, Paul has continued to stir revolution in the Republican Party by fighting the GOP establishment."

Williams concludes his column saying, "As he leaves the political scene, there is no doubt that cranky Ron Paul has made his mark on American politics.

"We will be living in the age of Ron Paul for many years to come."

See Juan Williams' column.

I believe Williams is spot on! Despite the fact that Ron Paul will not be the GOP nominee for President, despite the fact that he has been ignored, impugned, denigrated, and maligned by the national press corps, religious conservatives, and even his own party leadership, Dr. Paul is the one man whose influence will be felt long after he--and his detractors--have left the land of the living. Why? Because Dr. Paul's consistent theme has been liberty, and liberty is bigger than any government scheme, policy, or program ever invented!

Think of it: Ron Paul was the only veteran running for President from either major party, and he was the only candidate against military adventurism and foreign interventionism.

Ron Paul is a devout Christian, and he was the only candidate who recognized that political freedom must be granted to all men and that neither the hearts of men, nor their morals, can be changed via government dictation. The "Religious Right" often accused him of not being "pro-life," yet Ron Paul was the only man running for President who had delivered over 4,000 babies and never performed a single abortion, and who wisely understood that the surest and quickest way to save the lives of unborn babies was not to rely on Supreme Court appointments, but to use the checks and balances granted to Congress by the Constitution under Article. III. Section. 2. Accordingly, he sponsored and re-sponsored the Sanctity of Life Act (which the GOP leadership constantly ignored).

In truth, Ron Paul's indefatigable efforts to promote liberty, peace, and sound money principles have not even come close to reaching their zenith. The aforementioned PAUL Festival in Tampa this weekend will be more about the principles that Ron Paul has promoted for his entire political career than about Ron Paul the man. In fact, when one thinks about Ron Paul, he or she really isn't thinking about a man; he or she is thinking about an idea. It is a truism to say that Ron Paul is bigger than Ron Paul. The ideas that Dr. Paul has championed will continue to swell well into the 21st Century. The PAUL Festival just might signal the unofficial beginning of "the age of Ron Paul."

While some are trying to use Dr. Paul's name and reputation to advance their own personal agendas, there are millions of Americans who have gravitated to the message he preaches, and, who now having tasted the sweet nectar of liberty, will never again be content to drink from the cup of oppression--no matter who is serving it!

Another thing about Ron Paul that has made him the iconic figure for liberty that he has become is his unwillingness to compromise. He isn't called "Dr. No" on Capitol Hill for nothing!

For nearly a quarter of a century, Ron Paul cast vote after vote against unconstitutional bills--even when his was the only "No" vote recorded. He is probably the only congressman in US history who returned every paycheck he received back to the taxpayers. Even when he was campaigning for President, he refused to accept Secret Service protection, because of what it cost taxpayers.

Ron Paul was truly untouchable. He could not be bullied or bribed. He stood on principle regardless of the consequences. For example, he was still feeling the wrath of establishment republicans (and denunciation from the mainstream media) during this year's Presidential campaign for endorsing me for President back in 2008. Was he not sagacious enough to not see that coming? Of course he was; and he did it anyway, because his conscious would not let him endorse the neocon RINO John McCain.

Ron Paul has raised the bar to a level this country hasn't seen since the days of America's founding. He has changed the debate in Washington, D.C., forever. He has put fear in the hearts of globalists on both sides of the Atlantic. His revolution is proliferating among the young and old, Republicans and Democrats, blue collar and white collar, Christians and unbelievers, veterans and non-veterans alike.

Juan Williams is absolutely right: regardless of who wins the White House in November or who takes control of Congress, we have entered "the age of Ron Paul." I cannot express the gratitude of my heart to have been, and by God's grace continue to be, part of it--no matter how small my part may have been or will yet be.

Therefore, I will take the platform this Saturday afternoon at the PAUL Festival in Tampa, Florida, with a sense of awe at the influence of this great man and the movement he has spawned.

Welcome to "the age of Ron Paul."

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Chuck Baldwin -- The Age Of Ron Paul

Ben Swann Reality Check: U.S. Marine Held In A Mental Hospital Against His Will Because Of Facebook Posts

Submitted by DJP333 on Wed, 08/22/2012 - 23:24
Politics, General + Law(s)

Ben Swann Reality Check takes a look at the case of U.S. Marine Brandon Raub who is being held in a mental hospital in Virginia over Facebook posts.



Ben Swann Reality Check: U.S. Marine Held In A Mental Hospital Against His Will Because Of Facebook Posts | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution

wow what a genius move by ron paul

Submitted by ramirezrobert24 on Thu, 08/23/2012 - 02:36
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I think I see where this is going and I believe the master minds doug wead and dr. Ron Paul have got the 2012 republican nomination won....let me tell you why I believe this is so....
There are reports that Sarah Palin is making a move

there are reports that Romeny is trying to get more delegates by stealing Ron Pauls

So have Sarah Palin and Ron Paul united to take down the GOP establishment

A Sarah Palin base of delegates that support her could nominate her as well to bring about a brokered convention.....and this seems to be a brilliant decision that I believe was made by the Ron Paul camp to ensure victory and grab her supporters that were following her back in 2008 and the whole 2012 campaign she has been on MSM telling the republicans should listen to some of ron Pauls ideas.....

This is probably what doug wead and ron paul had up there sleeves for sarah to make a late run so they can split romenys delegates and cause a brokered convention and then romney ron paul and sarah palin will speak were she endorses ron paul ......and boom victory is ours.....its possible. just believe

wow what a genius move by ron paul | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution