Thread: Ron Paul on the Issues

Fc uk Mitt Romney. I am voting against republicans.

Submitted by Daily Rube on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:43
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I hope Mitt loses by a landslide.

I'm done with the Republican party. This is such a joke.

Gary Johnson will get my wasted vote.

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I've been warning and warning

Get ready for a massive exodus from the GOP

Myself - I'll not vote for the corruption of Romney / Obama

Not sure if I'll vote third pary myself or stay home in protest

this I know

You couldnt pay me big money to vote for Romney

Joel Skousen: Reforming Republican Party a 'False Hope'

Submitted by jhnmorgan on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:29
Politics, General + Law(s)

From Joel Skousen's World Affair's Brief Aug. 22nd, quoting Justin Raimondo @Antiwar.com (Joel's commentary in brackets):

"[Even though, it might have been a symbolic gesture, the delegates behind Ron Paul were intending to at least get Rep. Paul nominated at the convention. It would give a great boost to the grand liberty movement Dr. Paul has built for the last 20 years and the rebellion against establishment control of the GOP. They only needed delegate majorities from 5 states to nominate the good doctor and to keep Romney from going uncontested before the convention. But alas, the illegal maneuvers of the RNC have robbed the movement of their last show before the cameras, and contrary to assurances by an “insider” within the RNC, Ron Paul will get no speaking slot.]"

“The Republican party Establishment is eager to crush any public expressions of dissent — both inside and outside the convention hall. Ron Paul’s supporters in the GOP learned that the hard way, as the Romneyites used their control of the party bureaucracy at the state and national levels [actually it wasn’t Romneyites, but the old guard elite inside the GOP that have always controlled things at the top] to retroactively change the rules in order to unseat duly elected Paul delegates."

“In Maine, Massachusetts, Louisiana, Oregon, Oklahoma, and elsewhere, the party bosses have disenfranchised Paul voters — closing down party caucuses, rejecting as delegates anyone under 50, and calling the cops when all else failed.

And while Ryder’s rule change failed [changing the number of states to nominate a person from 5 to 10]— thanks to RNC’er Morton Blackwell — the Romney people did sneak in an amendment that would require delegates to state in writing who they intend to vote for on the convention floor at least one hour before the vote [and the vote is being moved up to Monday because of the coming storm that might force the cancellation of the convention]"

"[Hopefully, this will end the movement’s false hope that you can take over or reform the Republican party.

Even if we did, the media and key politicians would suddenly claim the Republican Party was “captured by extremists” and move to form a new party which they would instantly grant majority status. That’s what they did in Israel when they formed Kadima.]"

"[And even if it were possible to finally expose the conspiracy which controls both parties, they would reform and create new parties with new names and fresh faces, but controlled by the same people. That’s what they did in Italy in 1994 when all the major parties were exposed for corruption.

Fighting secret combinations of power in government is extremely difficult once they have gained control of a majority in Congress, the courts, and the media, not to mention the secret organs of enforcement in the police state.]"

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RNC Rules Committee Changes Nominations Rule from 5 States to 8 States - 08/24

Submitted by RobHino on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:44
Ron Paul 2012
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Florida

From my friend in Tampa:
"It now requires a majority of eight states to place a name in nomination.

It is now more critical than ever that we persevere in TX. WE are likely the only state with the size and will to be in a position to push back the totalitarian centralization of the GOP happening here today."

If ratified by the convention body, this will be effective for this 2012 convention.

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Robert Scott Bell Hammers The RNC Over Their "Compromises"

Submitted by Truthiness on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:30
Ron Paul 2012

On his show this morning



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Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Robert Scott Bell Hammers The RNC Over Their "Compromises"

Submitted by Truthiness on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:30
Ron Paul 2012

On his show this morning



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The RNC can shove their so-called compromises where the sun don't shine. Whatever slight hesitation I might have had before in not voting for Romney is totally gone now! Those dirty damned bastards make me want to vomit. I don't care if it was even obummer who was railroaded like they have Ron Paul. It is just sickening.

RNC Passes Rule Giving Itself Power To Change Any Rule Without Delegate Vote

Submitted by P.Au.L on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 19:43
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BuzzFeed - TAMPA — The Republican National Convention Rules Committee voted 63-38 to approve a new rule allowing granting the Republican National Committee — and Mitt Romney — sweeping new powers to amend the governing document of the GOP.

The move came at the encouragement of Mitt Romney supporters on the committee, including Romney's top lawyer Ben Ginsberg, who stressed that it would grant "flexibility" to Romney and the committee to adapt to changing political environments. The rule allows the RNC to amend the party's rules without a vote by the full Republican National Convention. And it offers the Republican Establishment a new tool to keep at by Tea Party initiatives that threaten to embarrass or contradict party leadership and stray from a planned message.

Continue at BuzzFeed

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Romney Executes Republican Party Power Grab

The Establishment wins a round over the grassroots.

“Awful,” says the conservative Blackwell.

Zeke Miller
BuzzFeed Staff


Campaign counsel Ben Ginsberg walks at a private donors' conference for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney at The Chateaux at Silver Lake at Deer Valley Resort in Park City, Utah, Saturday, June 23, 2012. Image by Charles Dharapak / AP

Posted Aug 24, 2012 11:40am EDT

TAMPA — The Republican National Convention Rules Committee voted 63-38 to approve a new rule allowing granting the Republican National Committee — and Mitt Romney — sweeping new powers to amend the governing document of the GOP.

The move came at the encouragement of Mitt Romney supporters on the committee, including Romney's top lawyer Ben Ginsberg, who stressed that it would grant "flexibility" to Romney and the committee to adapt to changing political environments. The rule allows the RNC to amend the party's rules without a vote by the full Republican National Convention. And it offers the Republican Establishment a new tool to keep at by Tea Party initiatives that threaten to embarrass or contradict party leadership and stray from a planned message.

Romney, as his party's nominee, exerts significant influence over the RNC, which is made up of elected party officials from all 50 states, while the larger Convention Rules Committee is larger and has a more grassroots membership.

"This is necessary for the world in which we find ourselves in," Ginsberg told the committee, adding that it is "important for the political survival of the party in the electoral context," for the committee to be able to change the rules as it sees fit in the intervening four years between conventions.

Virginia delegate and RNC member Morton Blackwell strenuously objected to the proposed rule change, calling it "the most awful proposed amendments I’ve seen presented to this committee.”

"This is dangerous, it amounts to a power grab," he said. "We are abandoning the historic process by which are rules are adopted."

The Romney allies waited until Friday to propose the amendment, choosing to avoid giving the opposition time to organize by proposing it at the preliminary Rules meeting on Wednesday or during more than three years of RNC Rules Committee discussions.

South Carolina delegate Drew McKissick, who objected to the rule change, echoed Blackwell's charge, warning that nearly any rule could now be amended by 3/4 of the Republican National Committee.

"It’s definitely a power grab by the campaign, the committee," he said. "It’s bad juju. Once you let the genie out of the bottle they can do anything."

Romney Executes Republican Party Power Grab

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Jerry Doyle Show Today - Mark Willis, National Committeeman Elect for the Maine Republican Party

Submitted by IntellectualAnarchy on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 21:14
Ron Paul 2012

On the Jerry Doyle Show this afternoon



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Justin Raimando: The Iron Fist in Tampa

Submitted by celeste on Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:28
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As the Republican convention-goers gather in Tampa, Florida, the Republican party Establishment is eager to crush any public expressions of dissent — both inside and outside the convention hall.

Inside, efforts are underway to make it impossible for delegates pledged to antiwar libertarian Ron Paul to place their candidate in nomination — an effort the Huffington Post deems a “defense” against Paulian “shenanigans.” Party rules say officially-recognized candidates must have pluralities of delegates in at least five states: however, at a recent Republican National Committee meeting, Texas committeeman John Ryder moved to increase the number of states to ten — just to make sure Paul doesn’t make the grade. Disdaining convention floor fights as “the residue of the 19th century,” Ryder averred it is time to “streamline” the process by which the GOP nominates its standard-bearer. Ryder claimed that he wanted to eliminate “distractions” at the Republican convention:

“Unless you’ve got a real contest, where you have two candidates or three candidates who actually have a mathematical chance of winning, then why do we want to go through the exercise?”

I have a better idea: since polls are showing Mitt Romney being soundly beaten by our incumbent President, why don’t’ we just dispense with these pesky elections — which are, after all, just part of the residue from the 18th century — and declare Barack Obama the winner? That way, we can save time, energy, and taxpayers’ money — because, after all, the taxpayers are footing the bill for Mitt’s coronation, just as they are for the Democrats. Think of it as a Republican budget-cutting plan — the Ryder plan.

To the Republican party Establishment — and much of the rank-and-file activists — political debate is a “distraction” from what really matters in politics, which is seizing power. As for the rules governing the political process — they can be changed at a moment’s notice, and bent any which way, in order to facilitate this seizure.

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The Iron Fist in Tampa by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com

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