Thread: ALIPAC Withdraws From AZ Rallies Over Nazi Groups & Tanc

Originally Posted by rewhblcain

Tom Tancredo is a fine man and he has my vote anytime because I trust him. I'm sure he does not have the so called facts like you do on this Smeriglio guy.

Tom Tancredo has had this information since at least Wednesday or Thursday of last week. I know that for a fact. I was assured on Thursday night that Tancredo would honor a truce and that Dan Smeriglio had been removed all together.

I found out this weekend and Monday that Smeriglio was still in the cockpit for June 5 and that Tancredo was asking top leaders to abandon our event on the 12th and come into the neo nazi contaminated event on the 5th.

W

Originally Posted by OGDoccat

So a few idiots brings us to a screeching halt! What a shame! I can't say I disagree with the decision to withdraw but we have to safeguard our rallies from these sort of infiltrator's. How do we know some liberal group isn't responsible for some this as well? Just asking as a saddened citizen today.

Ditto!!! Key part of National Socialism is SOCIALISM!!! Political correctness will be the death of us.

Originally Posted by Ratbstard

Were these people the "original organizers" and that is the reason to withdraw our support? If that is so I am in total agreement here.

To the best of our knowledge, Dan Smeriglio and Tom Tancredo were the original organizers although we are not sure which one started the ball rolling first on June 5. We just know those were the only two involved when we were asked to attend, support, and speak on June 5.

Dan Smeriglio told me that Tancredo asked him to speak on June 5, but I don't believe anything Smeriglio says anymore after the elaborate lies he has told me.

W

This is becoming a VERY sensible and delicate topic.

While I am a law abiding citizen, an American, a patriot, I have my doubts about the decision of retiring from the June event, and here is why:

Since I "was" and immigrant (now an absolute American), one of the things that I was able to perceive in the American idiosyncrasy, ans is something that I never stop telling to every single American, is that you all, since the day are born, are brainwashed with concepts like discrimination, racism, segregation, profiling, etc. To the point, that the average American is terrorized of saying what he thinks, afraid to act and defend what is right, and even worst, Americans surrender their ideal and principles, only to protect themselves from these "horrible" social issues.

Well, let me tell you something. Whites, are THE ONLY ONES IN THE WORLD restricting themselves from this. Latinos, they speak in Spanish REAL HATE against Whites every day of their lives in cities like Miami, LA, Houston, NY, Chicago, and many more that are being lost every day. Latinos openly recognize that they HATE White people. They don't like White way of thinking, they don't like White color, they don't like White music, they don't like White food. And I repeat again, they OPENLY say this everywhere. On the streets, on restaurants, at school, at workplace, EVERYWHERE. Why is that? because they were not terrorized like you all since they were born. They were tought that all the root of their problems, is the evil capitalism empire imposed by Whites who invaded the continent from Europe. They are tought resentment against Whites for the rest of their lives.

I do not endorse nor recommend any racist or discriminatory behavior. However, staying away from this almost "war" due to fear of racism concepts, in my opinion is ridiculous. In a few years, this will be a very serious issue; we will HAVE to take an attitude of "you are either with the USA, or you are an enemy".

Instead of pulling out of meetings for fear to involvement with other groups, we should mentor those groups. We should ask them to please be Americans first. If they really have a problem with Browns, well, they won't succeed their way. They will succeed our way. The American way. If we can show them the path, they will follow it.

And you know what, at the end of the day, why latinos are allowed to openly be racist? and have racist groups? my ideals and principles tell me that hostility MUST be oppressed with hostility and a half. When was the American spirit lost?

I would stand by myself in the border with a gun. If you wanna stop an illegal invasion from a foreign country, you stand up with me, right next to me, and I don't give a flying rat if you are a racist, or a priest, or a nazi, or a jew, black, white. If you are willing to die defending this nation, this land, then you are with me. Period. IT WILL TAKE THAT MENTALITY. Believe me. I told Americans 10 years ago "is too late". Some still don't get it.

Inviting skinheads/nazis is one thing that can't be allowed but if a rally anywhere for cause X is announced and they show up spontaneously for or against cause X, there is not much that can be done about it. One just can't cancel events because of those who might show up. A football game is not canceled because there may be a rowdy group of drunks in the crowd; they can be evicted for at the scene behavior but not just showing up.

I'm devestated by this news. Obviously, any involvement by racist groups are not good for the support of 1070. But I do echo the comments above that we should work to overcome the challenges that are thrown in our path. Illegal Alien supporters have no problem marching in the face of their detractors, I would hope we could have as much steel to support our cause as heartily.

I'm really torn as to what to do...I've been saving my pennies for the long journey across the desert to stand up for America and all she means to her people. What to I do now? Spend the money and hope more than a hundred people show up? Is anybody else still planning on being there on June 12? Who holds the permits? I'd do anything I can within my power to encourage people to stand behind 1070 but I'm just one man.

I just want to add that I think what ALIPAC has done so far is great and I do not mean to sound unappreciative of ANY group working to heal America.

That said, I'm wondering if Dr. King and other black leaders would have backed out of the Civil Rights March because of negative publicity? This is history too.

Unfortunately these people are following instructions by Obama to infiltrate and destroy those opposed to his agenda. In this case it has worked as this group is pulling out of the rally in support of Arizona's immigration law. When groups give in to their threats everyone loses. Arizona needs and must have support in fighting the illegal immigration problem - we are being overrun! Last week the Federal Senate refused to build the 700 miles of fencing long ago promised. Today Senators Kyl & McCain have demanded additional federal support, asking for 6,000 national guard to be deployed to the southern border - 3,000 to Arizona. We are still waiting on that response, but we are fairly certain it will be no. Other states are boycotting Arizona, with many not even reading the bill - it is the SAME as FEDERAL IMMIGRATION laws - yet somehow AZ is racist and the federal law isn't. California is quickly learning boycotts have their paybacks as Arizonans are cancelling their vacations to California and San Diego is pleading to ignore the politics. How can we when they were the ones that called for the boycotts in the first place? It's very disappointing the support for the rally has been pulled.

I am grateful for your thorough validation of the groups with whom ALIPAC associates. I would not be a subscriber if there were any hint of racism or hatred as part of the ALIPAC mission. My reason for supporting ALIPAC and other similar organizations is to ensure that our borders our secure and that the U.S. enforces current immigration law. It has nothing to do with targeting particular ethnic groups for harrassment or whatever. People who live and work in the U.S. should be here legally - period.

There will always be undesirables show up at any rally so saying don't go because skinheads neo-nazi's will be there silence's our freedom of speech. Not good.

Sounds like Smeriglio may be a pro-IA covert operator.

Can't the speakers at this rally denounce any racist who may show up ?

Isn't NumbersUSA scheduled to be there. It says right on their Home Page "No Immigrant Bashing Allowed".Are they pulling out too ?