Thread: NC and Texas May Join Growing List of States Fighting Illega

Originally Posted by stevetheroofer

"House Bill 36 Passed"

What?

W

Source please?

W

A fifth edition of HB 36 has shown up on the ncleg.net website just in the past 3 hours or so. You can see it here--
http://ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/Ho ... H36v5.html

I can't tell much from the language, but I'm thinking W knows what to look for in this.

We need comparison and analisis of this version of the bill that passed the House...

Version 4
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED 1
AN ACT TO REQUIRE EMPLOYERS IN THIS STATE, AND ENTITIES WHO 2 CONTRACT WITH A GOVERNMENT AGENCY IN THIS STATE, AND THEIR 3 SUBCONTRACTORS TO USE THE FEDERAL E-VERIFY PROGRAM TO VERIFY 4 THE WORK AUTHORIZATION OF NEWLY HIRED EMPLOYEES.
http://ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/Ho ... /H36v4.pdf


And the new version GOP Senators wrote behind closed doors called


Version 5

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT to require counties, cities, and ENTITIES WHO CONTRACT WITH A GOVERNMENT AGENCY IN THIS STATE for construction or repair work AND THEIR SUBCONTRACTORs to use the federal e‑verify program to verify the work authorization of newly hired employees.
http://ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/Ho ... H36v5.html

Just looking at the titiles, it would appear that the 5th edition only applies to governments, because the fourth says "Employers...AND entities who contract with a government agency" and the fifth only lists "counties, cities, and ENTITIES WHO CONTRACT WITH A GOVERNMENT AGENCY." Sounds like the second is leaving out private employers just from looking at the title.

Further examination of the 2 versions indicates that this is left out of the new version:

"§ 64-26. Verification of employee work authorization. 26

(a) Employers Must Use E-Verify. – Each employer in the State shall register and 27
participate in E-Verify to verify the work authorization of new employees. 28

This would seem to me to apply to private employers, so yes, that appears to be left out of the new version.

Why do I want to scream at them--"Liar, liar, pants on fire!!" Wish their pants WERE on fire!!

Now there is a version 6 here--
http://ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/Ho ... H36v6.html
but at first glance, I can't see any substantive difference between this and version 5.

ncleg.net also shows that this passed 2nd and 3rd readings last night.

Texas immigration bill approved by Senate



AUSTIN, Texas — Texas Senate Republicans flexed their muscle again, shoving aside angry and tearful objections from Democrats to pass a bill that gives police officers broader powers to ask people they detain about their citizenship status.

The 19-12 vote early Wednesday came after nearly eight hours of emotional debate in which Democrats railed against the bill as racist and a tool to harass Latinos.

The bill pushed by Republican Gov. Rick Perry now goes to the House for consideration, where it is expected to easily pass. The Republican super-majority in the House passed a similar version during the regular session.

Perry and supporters say the bill will help police fight crime committed by illegal immigrants. But opponents, including law enforcement chiefs in the state's largest cities and immigrant rights activists, say the measure will allow rogue officers to target Hispanics.

"This bill is open season on Latinos," said Sen. Mario Gallegos, D-Houston, "This bill is the most racist, Latino-bashing, anti-immigrant bill I've ever seen."

Many Texas law enforcement agencies discourage their officers from asking people they detain in everything from routine traffic stops to serious criminal investigations whether they are in the country legally. The bill bans agencies and local governments from adopting such policies for their officers and deputies. Those that do would be cut off from state grants.

Senate Republicans were determined to give powers to individual police officers that many in law enforcement have said they don't want or need.

Critics, including law enforcement chief in Austin, El Paso, Fort Worth, Houston and San Antonio, worry the bill will be used by rogue officers to target Latinos and lead to mistrust of police in immigrant communities.

Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, said police take an oath to uphold state and federal law and should be free to ask about detainees' immigration status because they could catch criminals or terrorists who have slipped into the country.

The bill is "not about race or fear-mongering," Williams insisted.

But Senate Democrats railed that white suspects will never be challenged on their citizenship and that Hispanics who are U.S. citizens will be harassed.

"When you tear apart families in my community, I will not be forgiving," said Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio.

At one point, the Senate's seven Hispanic members all stood as symbols of who may be asked to prove they are citizens. At the same time, a man in the public gallery unfurled a sign that read "SHAME" before he was apprehended by security and removed.

"This bill strikes at the hearts and souls of the Latino people of Texas," said Sen. Carlos Uresti, D-San Antonio. "Any furtive glance or misstatement can put you under suspicion. All that matters is the color of your skin and if you have an accent. I shouldn't have to prove I'm a citizen."

Democrats blocked the bill during the regular session, but Perry, who is considering seeking the GOP nomination for president, added immigration enforcement issues to the call of the special session. Voting rules that helped Democrats block the bill last month don't apply in the special session.

Perry has said federal immigration enforcement has failed and that Texas must protect its own borders. Supporters of the bill also noted several cases of crimes, including murders and drunken-driving fatalities, committed by illegal immigrants.

"There are crimes being committed right now by people who are in this country illegally," Williams said.

An estimated 1.6 million illegal immigrants are in Texas, according to the Pew Hispanic Center in Washington.

Democrats complained the term "detention" is too vague and could lead to immigration inquiries even in cases as simple as violating restrictions on watering lawns or a traffic stop for faulty brake lights. They argued the bill does nothing to prevent illegal immigration.

Opponents said the bill does nothing to prevent illegal immigration and argued that crime victims fearing interrogations about their immigration status won't report domestic violence or activity by drug cartels.

The bill also requires every person's name to be checked in federal immigration databases through a program called Secure Communities, and gives the Texas Department of Public Safety the authority to make sure someone is in the country legally before issuing a driver's license.

"Drug traffickers and transnational gangs should think twice before they step foot in Texas," said Republican Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/ ... z1PKsZlBDJ