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    I think William Gheen and the head of Numbers USA should both have a telecon with Mr. Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by K. C. View Post
    Why can't the illegals order the immigration request form, fill it out, and send it in? How hard is that?
    The line starts in their own homeland, not here! Like ALIPAC said, can you imagine how many would pour in here if they thought they could come here first and then put in their application. Furthermore, without being vetted at the border, those with contagious illnesses, murderers, rapist, cartel members, etc. would have absolutely nothing standing in their way because allowing them to come in freely would end the need for border security and immigrant screening. Those here illegally need to go back to their own home countries and apply in the correct manner. I believe, according to our immigration law, those caught and deported are not allowed to apply for 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamissfa View Post
    I think William Gheen and the head of Numbers USA should both have a telecon with Mr. Trump
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    I seriously doubt Mr Trump's ego would allow him to think he may be wrong and I know his ego wouldn't allow him to admit it.

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    As an English instructor in an adult school for 13 yrs. I can tell you why (our school offered citizenship classes). Although some of our students did do what you suggested, priorities for most are working and having a family. Being illegal requires investment in legal services. Most don't want to put their $ in that. They buy a car, a house, etc. I saw it every day. Oh, and some said they couldn't afford the textbook. I finally got so angry I said, "But you bought a case of beer last weekend, right?" With no shame they admitted it. So there you have it. It's too much trouble and they don't want to pay for legal assistance to do it. Until they're threatened to do so with enforceable consequences, it's not going to change. Shame on you, Mr. Trump.

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    "protectionist-Jul. 28, 2015 at 10:31amWord I got from the Trump campaign, is that the “good people” are those bringing large amounts of CAPITAL, with which to open businesses, and create JOBS, Another group of the “good people” are those who they call “contributors” > namely, people bringing special skills that are in demand in America, which we need, or would just benefit greatly by having (ex. great scientist, brain surgeon, violinist), however these would probably be rare.
    In all, by this standard, the “good people” Trump would let back in, may amount to less than 5% of illegal aliens deported."

    This is a post from another site and if this is so, I can live with this. I can not confirm this, can anyone else? This would not be out of line for a businessman like Trump to think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    There is still time for another candidate to emerge that will stand behind America's existing defenses and immigration laws instead of touting a form of Amnesty.

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    But you know no other candidate will get the energy and following Trump has. Did you see Ann Coulter last night on Hannity AFTER Trump came on?

    She STILL strongly supports Trump despite what he said and Coulter is the biggest anti immigration advocate out there. Like protectionist said below me said maybe Trump only wants to keep the 5% or so of the skilled ones and very few of the ones for agriculture and send most back. Trump's position can't be THAT bad otherwise Coulter wouldn't STILL support him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    I seriously doubt Mr Trump's ego would allow him to think he may be wrong and I know his ego wouldn't allow him to admit it.
    It's not that he's wrong. He would just be modifying his position because he already said he would build a wall, end sanctuary cities, and stop Obama's executive amnesty!

    So NumbersUSA and William of ALIPAC need to speak to Mr.Trump to let him know how conservatives and most Americans feel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWitch View Post
    "protectionist-Jul. 28, 2015 at 10:31amWord I got from the Trump campaign, is that the “good people” are those bringing large amounts of CAPITAL, with which to open businesses, and create JOBS, Another group of the “good people” are those who they call “contributors” > namely, people bringing special skills that are in demand in America, which we need, or would just benefit greatly by having (ex. great scientist, brain surgeon, violinist), however these would probably be rare.
    In all, by this standard, the “good people” Trump would let back in, may amount to less than 5% of illegal aliens deported."

    This is a post from another site and if this is so, I can live with this. I can not confirm this, can anyone else? This would not be out of line for a businessman like Trump to think of.
    Those are not the words we heard out of Trump's mouth! I'm surprised anyone would attempt to pass such information off with out evidence to substantiate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopillegalimmigration View Post
    But you know no other candidate will get the energy and following Trump has. Did you see Ann Coulter last night on Hannity AFTER Trump came on?

    She STILL strongly supports Trump despite what he said and Coulter is the biggest anti immigration advocate out there. Like protectionist said below me said maybe Trump only wants to keep the 5% or so of the skilled ones and very few of the ones for agriculture and send most back. Trump's position can't be THAT bad otherwise Coulter wouldn't STILL support him!
    If she came on right after Trump, I seriously doubt she had time to digest what he said ...... that is assuming she was even able to hear his comments.

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    Trump's position can't be THAT bad otherwise Coulter wouldn't STILL support him!
    Ann Coulter's criteria for supporting Trump and ALIPAC's criteria are two entirely separate things. While we welcome Ann Coulter's book and much needed attention to illegal immigration issues, please remember that she also continued to support Chris Christie after he snuggled up with Obama.

    The bottom line here is that ALIPAC is usually on the front row of hot issues like this. And as such, we are sometimes the first or one of the first organizations people hear from on these issues.

    Today we put out a release we really wish we did not have to put out. But the Trump parade still has a lot of momentum and a lot of people have put their hopes in Trump because the rest of the GOP Presidential field is so filled with nasty illegal alien amnesty supporters!

    Many Americans have this kind of Stockholm Syndrome when faced with being completely surrounded and under the power of our captors, many begin to desperately try to identify with the captors and their positions in the hopes they will be spared in some way.

    Donald Trump is on the same side as Mike Huckabee right now who sounded tough on illegal immigration in 2008 and did a bunch of speeches about he would "make the illegals leave" to satisfy current laws. But closer inspection found out that he was supporting what became known as the "Pence Provision" named after Congressman Mike Pence who created a form of amnesty called "touch back" where the illegals would leave America to satisfy current laws then return within a day or matter of days!

    They were going to set up "Ellis Island Centers" on the other side of the Mexican border and allow illegals of all nationalities to go there for processing for biometric IDs then quickly return!

    What Trump is talking about is what other Republican amnesty supporters have talked about in the past and they all lead us to the main objectives that the elites flooding the US with illegal aliens set out to achieve long ago.

    They wanted the illegals here so the facilitated their entry and presence. Now they want the illegals to stay and to get into the biometric surveillance state and stay here to prop up labor and consumer markets, overthrow the traditional American voices in politics and US policy, then merge what once was America into a regional governance body and the global control ruled by China and the plutocrats!

    The Trump plan will likely let about 90% of the current millions of illegals stay just like what Obama is already doing and the end result of that will be millions more illegal aliens year after year after year.

    And Americans like us loyal to the founding principles and documents like the Constitution will be submerged deeper and deeper under layers of millions of people that will vote against our interests and if called upon to do so will take further and possibly even violent steps to maintain their positions of dominance over us.

    As soon as the current laws of the US are changed to accommodate Trump's or Obama's illegals, they will start handing them more badges, guns, federal and state jobs, titles, and permits and turn many illegal aliens into DHS, HUD, FBI, ATF, workers as well as local police, prison guards, teachers, principles, nurses, orderlies, security guards, etc...

    The illegal aliens of today are intended to have dominion over you tomorrow.

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