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    Well said Judy especially your first paragraph --- also the Prez used those tired bs cliches' of "nation of immigrants" and "broken system"
    The president cannot redefine whatamnesty is in his terms so that he can then say he is not doing amnesty when exactly what heis doing is amnesty -- so he bald face lied, trying to deceive lowinfo people.

    The Prez stated, "Amnesty is the current immigration system we have today---millions who don't play by the rules, or pay their fair share of taxes --- while the politicians use it to scare people and whip up votes" "leaving the broken system the way it is , is amnesty" --- THIS IS NONSENSE BAIT AND SWITCH ----CURRENT immigration system we have today is because he and Fed agencies won't apply the immigration laws to illegal undocumented Border crossers -- NOT applying or enforcing the laws (not doing his/their jobs for America.
    "UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE" ARE CRIMINALS AND ITS STARTS AT THE BORDER --- WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO "rip families apart" if the laws and a secure Border was enforced or applied in the FIRST Place!!


    Amnesty defined by the dictionary is: 'a pardon esp.for political offenses'. Hence, pardon or relief from deportation isto relief from the threat of law enforcement. What the Presidentsaid was -- that amnesty is "what we have now because People arenot being held responsible or under law by ID which is lawlessness "is a two-faced betrayal because the President is the one causinglawlessness by not enforcing laws and not having the DHS, ICE and theBP do their job. And amnesty is relief from law enforcement hencerelief from deportation. So the President twisting words, usingmisnomer cliches' like "nation of immigrants" trying tobald face refute his exact crime saying "im' being lawful". It doesn't matter if the Prez just wants it done his way, he has noauthority to come out and say -- i'm doing it my way


    This has never been about abusingImmigrants or trying to demean a group of illegal Aliens (theAmerican People don't like to see this occur, but more so we alsodon't like or have to stand to be violated and have our familiesrundown by an Invader --just like a criminal that breaks into yourhouse to steal, and we have the right to self-defense and shoot thecriminal) -- Illegal Aliens KNOW what they are doing wrong -- thisis about protecting America from Invasion (when a foreign neighbormasses its Intruders at the particular place known as the Border) ,illegal entry, homeland National security, U.S. sovereignty and lawsof self defense -- and dealing with an unfriendly hostileantagonistic pillaging foreign neighbor called Mexico.

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    Executive Amnesty + Obamacare = Businesses Getting $3000 to Hire Illegals over Citizens


    Much has already been said about the problems with President Obama’s amnesty decree, but thanks to a quirk in Obamacare, we can add another to the list. Now, businesses with more than 50 employees will, in essence, be getting $3000 for hiring illegal aliens granted amnesty over lawful citizens of this country. Here’s how the Washington Times describes it:

    Under the president’s new amnesty, businesses will have a $3,000-per-employee incentive to hire illegal immigrants over native-born workers because of a quirk of Obamacare.

    President Obama’s temporary amnesty, which lasts three years, declares up to 5 million illegal immigrants to be lawfully in the country and eligible for work permits, but it still deems them ineligible for public benefits such as buying insurance on Obamacare’s health exchanges.


    Under the Affordable Care Act, that means businesses who hire them won’t have to pay a penalty for not providing them health coverage — making them $3,000 more attractive than a similar native-born worker, whom the business by law would have to cover.
    This means that we can add this to the long list of problems with Obamacare, as well, alongside “Typo-gate“. However, one of the most important parts of the article is buried deep into the second page. It appears that the creation of this loophole was a deliberate action on Obama’s part. Here’s what the article says:
    Mr. Obama created the Obamacare loophole incentive in a 2012 Homeland Security decision.
    Until August of that year, those granted “deferred action” — the power Mr. Obama also used in his new temporary amnesty — were eligible for public benefits, including Obamacare. But just two months earlier, Mr. Obama had announced a massive expansion of deferred action for hundreds of thousands of “dreamers,” or young illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, and in order to prevent them from getting public benefits, Homeland Security officials issued a new policy giving the dreamers a new category of legal status that left them outside of Obamacare.
    An action like this makes it seem like the loophole is a feature, not a bug, of both Obamacare and the President’s amnesty order. The President’s actions, whether they were intentional or not, are now incentivizing bad behavior. We cannot allow this to stand. The incoming Congress must push back against these action. We can start by repealing Obamacare and defunding the President’s amnesty. If the Republicans in Washington had any guts, they’d follow Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)94%‘s advice and refuse to confirm any of Obama’s executive appointments, too.


    Even if the President was merely ignorant of this loophole, it’s all but a given that we cannot trust him to fix it, meaning it is up to Congress to act. Let’s make sure Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY)68% and Rep. John Boehner (R-OH)Heritage ActionScorecardRep. John BoehnerN/AHouse Republican Average62%See Full ScorecardN/A know that.


    *=I reject the notion that Americans are above certain jobs, by the way. That sounds like a sentiment who have never really had to look for work.

    http://www.redstate.com/2014/11/26/e...gals-citizens/
    Last edited by April; 11-28-2014 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    A lot of people are reporting that what Obama had to say last night made them actually physically ill.

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    W, I am physically, emotionally, and spiritually unable to listen to ANYTHING Mr. Obama says. The Holy Spirit in me DISCERNS the evil spirit behind his facade and FORCES me to stick my fingers in my ears until his voice is no more.

    This automatic, involuntary response would be very dangerous when driving, except that I have learned to mute the radio for a minute or so whenever I hear the news begin.

    I'll go out on a limb and on record:

    THERE IS SOMETHING MORE EVIL OPERATING IN THAT MAN THAN ANYTHING I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED BEFORE.
    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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    I agree. Obama is shielded by the most powerful evil Ive ever encountered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC View Post
    W, I am physically, emotionally, and spiritually unable to listen to ANYTHING Mr. Obama says.
    That's funny, I feel the same way about him. Harry Reid too. I have to turn it off when either one of them come on.
    All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz View Post
    That's funny, I feel the same way about him. Harry Reid too. I have to turn it off when either one of them come on.
    Me too.
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    Sometimes anger overcomes my mouth.
    Donald Trump did what most of us have been unable to do---he actually had the left leaning media reporting his words. What they ended up doing was not their intent but it has worked well for Trump. I have been disappointed in many of the candidates for trying to smooth everything over so as to not make even one Latino angry. Latino's now run our candidates and every election process. The way I look at it Trump spoke for the millions of us with no voice. GO TRUMP! We need someone that will not owe his soul to the highest contributor and someone that will speak the truth. Trump may not be politically "polished" but he sees what is happening and will speak out without fear of making "a Latino" angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco12348 View Post
    Sometimes anger overcomes my mouth.
    Donald Trump did what most of us have been unable to do---he actually had the left leaning media reporting his words. What they ended up doing was not their intent but it has worked well for Trump. I have been disappointed in many of the candidates for trying to smooth everything over so as to not make even one Latino angry. Latino's now run our candidates and every election process. The way I look at it Trump spoke for the millions of us with no voice. GO TRUMP! We need someone that will not owe his soul to the highest contributor and someone that will speak the truth. Trump may not be politically "polished" but he sees what is happening and will speak out without fear of making "a Latino" angry.
    George wallace once talked about his first loss in alabama for governor. He said the other guy beat him because he out ( insert n-word with ed here). He then said he would not be out ( same nword with ed) again. Initially his opponent took support from the kkk and wallace would not and was supported by the naacp. Now I would say that was wrong back then. To out-word meant to be a bigger bigot. Be harder on the blacks.

    Well today we have politicians who are trying to "out-latino" each other. We have lost our nation and it was wrong then and is wrong now. What makes it even more wrong is the who issue of illegal immigration is about "people" who should not even be in the country.
    <div>"If I had known this I would have picked my own cotton"</div>

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