Thread: ALIPAC McCain Negatives Collection Point, Help Needed

Ok folks, we need a collection of bullet points that involve negatives about McCain and the Immigration issue.

Please post your top concerns, or any concerns about what McCain has done related to immigration and include your sources.

Make each point you post short and in one paragraph please.

We will build the master list here.

McCain Immigration Negatives
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1. supported the McCain / Kennedy comprehensive immigration reform that would have awarded "amnesty" to millions of illegals , including gang members , drug dealers and child predators

2 Supported social security payments to illegals for time they worked while being here illegally

1.Refuses to admitt his plan was amnesty .2.Seems to be unable to utter the word ''border fence'' and always says ""vehicle Barriers" which are a joke.3.Never mentions Drugs and the fact that 90% of major drugs come over that mexican border that he refers to as ""friends".

Supports massive guestworker programs when we are shipping jobs
overseas

Senator MCain's own state of Arizona has undergone"massive" influxes of illegal immigrants. Also mention the border patrol down in AZ and their feelings toward him.

That will be a long list William. Just the fact that he would seek the advise and counsel of a member of Vicente Fox's administration, Juan Hernandez, is collusion with the open borders and special interests crowd.

He (Mr. Hernandez) has said the following:

1. wants a united region and free flow of goods and people

2. think Mexico first

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-100441-.html

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/ho ... d=1386325#

Senator McCain has the backing and support of those who unapologetically support Comprehensive Immigration Reform - Senator Graham, Mel Martinez - not to mention Senator McCain himself

Ephesians 4:32

(the following bullet points are from this Washington Times editorial)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/ ... 43755/1013
1) Supporting mass amnesty. The May 29, 2003, Tucson Citizen quoted Mr. McCain as stating that "Amnesty has to be an important part of" any immigration solution. He was part of the bipartisan coalition that tried to pass amnesty legislation in 2006 and 2007. In 2006 he voted in favor of S. 2611, legislation that would reward between 10 and 11 million illegals with amnesty if they apply for legal status and pay a $2,000 fine.

2)Supporting in-state tuition for illegal aliens. Mr. McCain was a cosponsor of S. 774, the Dream Act, providing in-state tuition for illegal aliens. The legislation would have enabled illegal aliens who entered the United States before age 16 to obtain a green card and then use their newly acquired status to obtain green cards for the millions of parents who illegally brought their children with them into the United States. Mr. McCain missed a Senate vote on the issue in October. He said that he would have opposed it on the Senate floor had he been there to vote.

3)Voted to kill border fence. In 2006, Mr. McCain voted for an amendment to S. 2611 offered by Sen. Arlen Specter to require consultation with the Mexican government concerning the construction of fencing along the U.S.-Mexican border. According to Numbers USA, an organization that lobbies against illegal immigration, this amendment would have effectively guaranteed that the border fence was never built.

4)Voted against permanently barring gang members and terrorists from the United States. Last year, Mr. McCain voted against an amendment (Senate Amendment 1184) introduced by Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican, that would have permanently barred gang members, terrorists, sex offenders, alien absconders, aliens convicted of domestic violence and aliens convicted of at least three DUIs from the United States. The Cornyn Amendment was rejected on a 51-46 vote.

5)Voted in favor of Social Security benefits to illegal aliens who commit identity fraud. In 2006. Mr. McCain joined with Mr. Kennedy in working to defeat an amendment by Sen. John Ensign, Nevada Republican, that would have barred Social Security credits for work being done prior to their receiving amnesty — in other words, while working under a false Social Security number. The Ensign Amendment, (Senate Amendment 3985) was defeated on a 50-49 vote.

Forgot big one-Americans will not pick lettace even for 50$ AN HOUR!

McCain has claimed he will bring real change to Washington as far as sealing the borders

He has been there for years now and has done NOTHING so far

Why would we think he would do anything if elected Pres

1. McCain has been campaigning all over the country telling everyone that he never really supported amnesty. During a recent primary, McCain and Lieberman were on a PR campaign together in NH and lying through their teeth on McCain's immigration record. At a recent town hall meeting, McCain speaks for a while uttering his gibberish about illegal immigration and the illegal's are god's children (he obviously believes that they are a special type of god’s children and deserve some kind of extra compassion), etc. Lieberman takes the mike and says..."To say John McCain ever supported amnesty for illegal immigrants is a lie..." This is extremely disturbing that both of these Senators would try to deceive and directly lie to people for the express purpose of garnering votes. You can view this for yourself in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3gSPhNSEM

2. McCain has consistently supported amnesty for illegal aliens since at least 2003 as reported by hotair.com from a Tuscon Citizen article…"McCain Pushes Amnesty, Guest-Worker Program," reported the Tucson Citizen of May 29, 2003. The senator is quoted as saying: "Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens. That has to be a component of it." The newspaper also quoted McCain as saying: "I think we can set up a program where amnesty is extended to a certain number of people who are eligible and at the same time make sure that we have some control over people who come in and out of this country."
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/05/v ... al-aliens/
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... 017540.php

3. An in-depth interview in June 2007 conducted with WBT radio Charlotte, NC illustrates McCain’s lack of knowledge of the details in his own Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill. His arrogance, disdain and condescending attitude to those who disagreed with him on the amnesty issue can also be heard: http://jeffkatz.wbt.com/audio.cfm;jsess ... 1f5TR?ID=7

4. During the ABC News presidential debate on January 5, 2008 McCain said: "Let me just say I've never supported amnesty. A few nights ago, Joe Lieberman and I had a town hall meeting together. It was a rather unusual event. The issue came up. Joe Lieberman said John McCain has never supported amnesty, and anybody says he does is a liar, he's lying." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/us/po ... QwnxeL9Sew

5. One day later at the Fox News presidential forum, McCain said, "I have never, ever supported amnesty, and never will". http://www.cfr.org/publication/15179/re ... 2Fspeeches

6. During the Fox News presidential debate on January 10, 2008 McCain said: "I know how to secure the borders. I come from a border state where our borders are broken. More people come across our border illegally every year than most any other state. And I will secure the borders first…The remaining 12 million…we must then, in my view, address it in as humane and compassionate way as possible. The three GIs who were missing last year in action, one of them was still missing in action, his wife was about to be deported from this country. I'm not going to deport the wife of a fighting serviceman who's missing in action. I'm going to handle it in a humane, compassionate fashion." EARTH to McMARS; if you know how to secure the borders, why is your home state’s border still unsecured (McCain has been in Congress for 26 years, the last 22 as a Senator), so much so that more illegals come across your border than anywhere else? What have you been waiting for? Amnesty (again)? Furthermore, what does a GI wife’s situation have to do with the 20 to 36 million illegal aliens here, many of which came across those borders you know how to secure but have done nothing to secure?
http://www.thestate.com/presidential-po ... 81821.html

7. It’s readily obvious that McCain hasn’t changed his views on illegal immigration. "Actually, I didn’t change my position…" McCain told Sean Hannity on January 19 right after he was declared the winner of the SC Primary. McCain is constantly saying that conservatives opposed his plan because they didn’t trust the federal government. But that's only partially true. They opposed the amnesty plan because they disagreed with forgiving the crimes of 20 plus million illegal aliens crashing through our borders by giving them amnesty and putting them on a special path to citizenship. Watch the video below carefully on the interview Sean Hannity conducted with McCain right after he was declared the winner in the SC Primary. When Hannity brings up the 'Kennedy-McCain Comp. Immig. Reform' bill, McCain’s arrogance flares as he starts laughing, dismisses the question with the "actually I've never changed my position", babbles about he's from a border state so he knows how to secure the borders (remember he has been in Congress for 26 years and has done nothing); then he quickly moves in another direction to avoid addressing Hannity's question any further.
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx ... e8e37b45fb

8. In April of 2006, McCain spoke at an ALF-CIO convention. During his speech some questioned his immigration plan, which included putting illegal aliens on a path to citizenship. When McCain insulted the attendees work ethic by saying that illegal immigrants do jobs Americans won’t do, a number of the crowd started to boo and one shouted out, "Pay a decent wage." McCain said he’d heard that before and that illegal immigrants do jobs Americans won’t. Then he said that he’d offer anyone present $50 an hour to pick lettuce in the hot, brutal Arizona sun for a season. When a number of people shouted they’d take it, McCain said, "You can’t do it, my friends" then hurriedly left the podium and disappeared. http://blog.aflcio.org/2006/04/05/50-an ... e-you-bet/
http://thismodernworld.com/2811

9. Michelle Malkin sums up his contemptuous nature well. Her recent article states, "His admission of the shamnesty failure is grudging and bitter…For all his supposed newfound enlightenment about what most Americans want—protection against invasion, commitment to the rule of law, meaningful employer sanctions, an end to sanctuary cities, enforcement-by-attrition plus deportation reform, and an end to special illegal alien benefits that invite more law-breaking—The Maverick remains a Geraldo Rivera Republican. Instead of emphasizing the need for local and state cooperation with federal immigration authorities to prevent the release of illegal alien criminals or discussing 100 percent preventable crimes by illegal alien thugs who should never have been on American soil in the first place, McCain harps on open-borders sob stories."
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/23/jo ... epublican/

10. A new revelation regarding McCain’s presidential campaign is that his "Hispanic Outreach Director", Juan Hernandez, is the same guy who was a close advisor to Mexico’s President Vicente Fox! Hernandez headed up a Mexican bureaucracy called the "Presidential Office for Mexicans Abroad." It was designed to allow Hernandez to travel across the U.S., meddling with local, state, and federal immigration enforcement on behalf of millions of illegal aliens in America. " Hernandez has been quoted as saying, "I never knew the border as a limitation. I'd be delighted if all of us could come and go between these two marvelous countries… There are twenty million people, like myself, who have one foot in Mexico and one foot in the United States, and we're very proud of it… We must not only have a free flow of goods and services, but also start working for a free flow of people." U.S. born dual citizen Juan Hernandez is very notorious for having said of Mexican Americans on Nightline on June 7, 2001, "I want the third generation, the seventh generation, I want them all to think Mexico first." Does John McCain agree that they should always "think Mexico first?" With Hernandez as his "Hispanic Outreach Director", I don’t think there is any question. Is there any reason that anyone should think open borders fanatic Dr. Hernandez wants President McCain to secure the border? Is there any reason that anyone should trust a man to secure the border if he is getting his "Hispanic Outreach" advice from Dr. Juan Hernandez? Is there any reason why anyone should not think that John McCain is committed to giving amnesty to the 20 million illegal aliens in America? http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-100152-.html

11. Not only is McCain a supporter of amnesty, he is not fond of any fencing for immigration control or for security reasons. McCain said, "By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it."[Prisoner of Conscience - Vanity Fair, February 2007: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feat ... cain200702

12. "We are not going to erect barriers and fences" (June 5, 2007 CNN Republican Presidential Candidates Debate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5G3kH1PvvU ) That’s surely true if McCain gets his way as he has demonstrated over and over again how anti-fence and border security he is. In 2006, McCain voted for the Specter Amendment to the Senate’s Immigration Bill that required consultation with Mexico to seek their approval before constructing any border fence. He’s so concerned with hurting Mexico’s feelings at the expense of our border security that he made sure the consultation language was put into the main body of the 2007 Kennedy-McCain Amnesty legislation attempt. That’s right, the Straight Talk Express who now says he’s all for border security is committed to consultations with Mexico to ask them if it would be OK if we built a border fence.