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    Carson was never really in the running and why? .... Because WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER BLACK PRESIDENT!!! .... Hell, the first one has nearly ruined OUR country and was taken by the blacks as permission to be more pushy than ever and run amok over the least little thing, especially when one of their kind had a run-in with the law.

    America was not ready for a black president. .... It wasn't as if whites weren't ready because most were or pretended to be and they lined up by the thousands to roll over and kiss his ass no matter what stupid thing he said or did and they still do. It WAS that blacks weren't ready. Too many of them acted as if they'd either won the lottery or had just been given a handful of Get Out Of Jail Free cards.

    So Carson? Not a chance in Hell.
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    Some folks are acting like this is new news. We've known Carson was an amnesty supporter for some time now.

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    And wait until they do the math on Carson's Tithe Plan versus the FairTax Plan.

    Carson't 10% Title Tax Plan eliminates all deductions and taxes the gross He states that if 10% is good enough for God, it's good enough for government, because "God is pretty fair". Really?

    Did he forget the 8% to fund Social Security and Medicare? Add the employee's share of that in and we're up to 14%. If someone works $8 an hour and can find 40 hours a week somewhere that's approximately $16,000 a year based on a 2000 hour year. 10% income tax and 4% payroll tax. That's $2,240 a year in federal income tax including the employee's share of SS and Medicare. That leaves them $13,760 to live on or approximately $1,147 a month.

    By comparison, under the FairTax, the person earns $16,000. Takes all $16,000 home plus receives a Rebate to exempt the FairTax from essentials, the same as everyone else who is a citizen or legal resident (illegal aliens are excluded from the Rebate). There is no withholding for income tax or payroll tax because both have been eliminated by the FairTax legislation.

    If the person is a single mother for example with 2 children, she'll receive a Rebate of $4,621 (2015). Now that person receives not only the $16,000 she earned but another $4,621 to pay any FairTax charged on new goods and services, so the gross net expendable income is $20,621 a year instead of $13,760. The FairTax rate is split between 8.09% earmarked to fund SS and Medicare and 14.91% for General Revenue.

    Which plan is more fair to this person? Carson's Tithe Plan or the FairTax Plan?

    I don't know about you, but if I earned $16,000 a year and had a couple of kids at home, I'd like the FairTax plan better that yields me $1,718 a month instead of $1,147.

    People need to pull out their calculators, do a little math, and the sooner the better.

    If you click on the link below, you'll find an updated chart that shows you what the Rebate is for households based on number of adults and number of children and shows it both in the annual amount as well as the monthly amount. The Rebate is received each month.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax

    There's no doubt about it. The FairTax is God's Plan.

    FairTax Act of 2015: HR 25 in the US House of Representatives and S 155 in the US Senate.
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    who the hell is this guy . never seen him be for ? what did he do come out of the wood work .another obama
    No thank I want trump

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    Looks as if the Doc has taken a page from the RINO playbook - mumble a few meaningless nostrums about enforcement, then sneak in the AMNESTY shiv!
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    first of all who the hell is he never seen him be for until now another obama . I vote for trump all the way .

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    Adios Dr. Ben Carson, was nice knowing you. Looks like Mr. Trump is the ONLY one that will solve this ILLEGAL mess which is hurting "AMERICANS"! ! ! Where's your symphathy for US?

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    Since a lot of people on social media do not want to believe what Breitbart News and ALIPAC are reporting to them, Im going to post this further documentation provided by ALIPACer MW!

    Ben Carson on Immigration


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    Carson in his books has staked out a hard line on immigration, calling for the border to be secured and strict interior enforcement measures. Carson has opposed illegal immigration and called for a system to ensure only legal immigrants are hired. However in some of his rhetoric, Carson has also recently championed a national guest-worker program as a way for immigrants to be granted citizenship and back in 2013 favored a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. Previously regarding the proposed national guest-worker program Carson said that illegals would have to return to their home country but in July Carson amended his proposal to allow for illegals to remain in country as guest workers as long as they pay taxes. This proposal is very similar to the failed Gang of 8 amnesty bill and until the border is secured incentivizes illegal immigration. Carson like all the other GOP candidates wants the border secure, but Carson's support for creation of a new guest-worker program comprised of illegal immigrants is amnesty but by another name.


    • When asked about a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in 2013, Carson said, “of course allow [illegal immigrants] to have a pathway to citizenship. That’s the only humane and reasonable thing to do.” (Daily Caller)
    • In a June 2014 column, Carson blasted the President for creating a manufactured crisis on the southern border when he declared certain illegal immigrants would not be deported in 2012, calling the recent influx of unaccompanied illegal minors entering the U.S. a “humanitarian crisis that appears to have been manufactured for political reasons.” (The Desert Sun)
    • Carson says that immigration reform should start by ending incentives for illegal immigrants, citing open borders, lax deportation enforcement, and easy access to education, health care, and welfare programs. (Ben Carson, America the Beautiful, 78-79)
    • Carson supports a national guest-worker program, similar to what Canada has: “Noncitizens would have to apply for a guest-worker permit and have a guaranteed job awaiting them. Taxes would be paid at a rate commensurate with other U.S. workers, and special visas would allow for easy entry and egress across borders. Guest-worker status would be granted to individuals and not to groups.” In the same chapter, he goes on to make somewhat contradictory statements regarding the legal status of guest-worker applicants: “People already here illegally could apply for guest-worker status from outside of the country, meaning they would have to leave first. They should in no way be rewarded for having broken our laws, but if they are wise, they would arrange with their employer before they leave to immediately offer them a legal job as soon as their application is received. When they return, they still would not be U.S. citizens, but they would be legal, and they would be paying taxes. Only jobs that are vacant as a result of a lack of interest by American citizens should be eligible for the guest-worker program.” (Ben Carson, America the Beautiful, 78-79) (National Review)
    • In July, Carson update his comments on his proposed national guest worker program saying that current illegals in the country would not have to leave but rather remain in country and register as guest workers and pay taxes. A provision very similar to the failed Gang of 8 legislation. "What I would do is allow them to become guest workers. If they register, and they get involved in a back tax program and taxes going forward." (Breitbart)
    • Carson holds employers who hire illegal immigrants responsible, and believes they “should receive swift, severe and consistent punishment that constitutes a real deterrent and not a mere inconvenience.” (Ben Carson, America the Beautiful, 78-79)
    • Carson believes that D.C. is not listening to the American people about securing the border.
      The overwhelming majority of Americans want the southern borders of our country secured and our immigration laws enforced, but several administrations recently have been unwilling to get tough on this issue because they do not want to alienate a large voting block of Latinos.” (ibid, 39)
    • Carson told the audience, at a Phoenix rally, "I know the 14th Amendment has been brought up recently, about anchor babies—and it doesn’t make any sense to me that people could come in here, have a baby and that baby becomes an American citizen. There are many countries in the world where they simply have recognized that and don’t allow that to occur." (Breitbart)




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    This is the same crap every open borders amnesty peddling hack has said before. If they are here illegally they get their ass out. If there is a hardship for illegal foreigner squatters, they have created their own problems by flaunting our laws and disrespect our national sovereignty with irresponsible behavior. Now Mr. Carson thinks there is some kind of obligation for us to clean up the mess they have made for themselves, even though it creates hardships and problems for US citizens. I hope nobody is buying this RINO crap from Carson. He should knock off the phony Mr. nice guy crap, shut up, go away and leave governing to a patriot like Donald Trump who puts the best interest of American citizens over foreigner squatters who cynically exploit the tolerance and compassion of American society.

    Ben Carson is a very bad choice for President.

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    The SHOCKING part is HOW can Carson be beating Trump head to head by 19 points?? A new poll shows Trump beats EVERYONE in the GOP except Carson in head to head matchups. Amazing Trump even beats Clinton ANDROID Sanders in head to head matchups!

    So HOW could he be losing to a boring sleepy guy like Carson?? I'm also against Carson due to his support for amnesty. We must spread the word so people support Trump over Carson!

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