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    Ben Carson wants to legalize tens of millions who have invaded our borders!

    See: Ben Carson: Give Illegals Six Months to Register as Guest Workers

    September 14, 2015

    ”(CNSNews.com) - GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson told CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday that his immigration plan would include giving illegal immigrants six months to register as guest workers.

    “Those who are here, you know, we have to recognize that we can't just round them up, but we can give them an opportunity to register. I would give them a six-month period, and if they register and they have a pristine record, they haven't been causing problems, I would give them an opportunity to become guest workers, not citizens, not voting people, not people who get goodies,” said Carson.”

    So, Ben Carson has no problem with allowing the millions of illegal aliens to stay here who are taking good paying jobs away from America Citizens in the building trades by offering their labor off the books and below existing fair market wages.

    This is the same kind of crap which Rubio, Bush, Kasich and other Chamber of Commerce flunkies support, they support the interests of those who have invaded our borders above the general welfare of the United States and her Citizens!

    Ben Carson also uses the Chamber of Commerce’s talking point that “we can't just round them up” and deport them. If Ben were sincerely concerned about the devastating social, financial and political consequences these illegals are inflicting upon American Citizens, instead of offering to make them legal he would put forth a plan which would make it extremely uncomfortable for illegal entrants to remain in our country, e.g., :

    impose a stiff jail sentence if caught working in our country;

    severely punishing them when caught in our country;

    require business owners to utilize e-verify when hiring;

    severely punishing those who hire illegal aliens;

    require emergency rooms to use e-verify when treating suspected aliens;

    denying illegal entrants any medical care (excepting in a life death situation);

    deny the children of illegal aliens access to a State’s public schools system;

    forbid and make it a crime for illegals to live in any public housing unit or section eight housing;

    and never allowing a person who has entered our country illegally to re-enter our country legally in the future would actually encourage many to swiftly exit our country on their own and take their children with them.

    So, Ben’s talking point that we can’t round them up and deport them is nothing but a ruse to avoid putting forth a plan to encourage illegals to leave on their own.

    The question is, why does Ben Carson have a problem with making it very uncomfortable for illegal entrants to remain in our country?

    Why do he not show compassion for American Citizens who are suffering the devastating social, financial and political consequences inflicted upon them by the tens of millions of aliens who have invaded our borders?

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    To support Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!


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    Ben carson
    if you can not see he is another Obama wake the hell up he is another guy that don't care about us just listen I did not like him at all & another thing who the hell is he any way .

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    The question is, why does Ben Carson have a problem with making it very uncomfortable for illegal entrants to remain in our country?

    Why do he not show compassion for American Citizens who are suffering the devastating social, financial and political consequences inflicted upon them by the tens of millions of aliens who have invaded our borders?
    The reason is because he's not an outsider. He may be an outsider to government, but he's an insider to global corporate governance.

    And he's an elitist to boot. Just listen to his conversation. He has no connection to American Workers or our Unemployed or Elderly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The reason is because he's not an outsider. He may be an outsider to government, but he's an insider to global corporate governance.

    And he's an elitist to boot. Just listen to his conversation. He has no connection to American Workers or our Unemployed or Elderly.

    I agree. Also remember he, like Obama, is the media's creation!


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    To support Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!


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    Ben Carson supports mass Guest Worker Amnesty for illegals just like the amnesty bills of 2006 and 2007 backed by GW Bush that ALIPAC opposed and defeated!

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    I do believe there are many citizens who do not know or who have not listened carefully to Dr. Ben Carson on the issue of illegal immigration and what to do with the millions who are here illegally.

    He does talk about taking away the "goodies" that lure many of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Ben Carson supports mass Guest Worker Amnesty for illegals just like the amnesty bills of 2006 and 2007 backed by GW Bush that ALIPAC opposed and defeated!

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    SEE: Share of Unauthorized Immigrant Workers in Production, Construction Jobs Falls Since 2007

    In States, Hospitality, Manufacturing and Construction Are Top Industries

    March 26, 2015

    ”In a reflection of changes in the overall economy since the Great Recession, the U.S. unauthorized immigrant workforce now holds fewer blue-collar jobs and more white-collar ones than it did before the 2007-2009 recession, but a solid majority still works in low-skilled service, construction and production occupations, according to new Pew Research Center estimates.”


    The important thing to see here is the massive infiltration of "unauthorized immigrant" workers into our job market!

    Ben Carson wants to reward them by legalizing them and allowing them to take jobs away from American Citizens.


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    To support Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    I do believe there are many citizens who do not know or who have not listened carefully to Dr. Ben Carson on the issue of illegal immigration and what to do with the millions who are here illegally.

    He does talk about taking away the "goodies" that lure many of them.
    I think Carson’s statements on illegal immigration are very disingenuous. If illegal aliens get to stay legally THAT IS AMNESTY. Carson says stuff like: “Those who are here, you know, we have to recognize that we can't just round them up, but we can give them an opportunity to register. I would give them a six-month period, and if they register and they have a pristine record, they haven't been causing problems, I would give them an opportunity to become guest workers, not citizens, not voting people, not people who get goodies,” said Carson.”

    Where does one begin to show what a bunch of "new speak" that statementis?

    Carson says “if they have a pristine record..” What is that supposed to mean? They are already guilty of evading arrest by running from the border patrol when they sneak in and it becomes continuous evasion when hiding from ICE and in addition becoming illegal squatters.

    And he says (if) ”… they haven’t been causing problems…” Just their being here is a huge problem with the jobs they steal from Americans and the huge burden they are on the entire economy (see Immigration Counters.com).

    And he says “not citizens…” Yah Ben sure how long does he think it would be before the ACLU, corrupt liberal/Marxist judges, the Democrat Party gives them full citizenship without their having done one damn thing to deserve it.

    “not voting people” they will be voting very soon when they get citizenship.

    And this beauty, “not people who get goodies,” If they stay it is certain that even before citizenship they will immediately be getting“goodies.” E.g. does he really think they will not go to a hospital emergency room for free treatment if they get hurt or sick, or if wifey has a baby? Does he really believe that food stamps for the little kiddies will not be given to them?

    Does Carson really expect that any of his preconditions will ever be enacted or enforce? The way for them to not get goodies,citizenship, voting rights and having a pristine record is for them not to be here in the first place. This is how easy it can be--kick their asses out. Is he ignorant or does he not want to know how President Eisenhower enforced a successful mass deportation in 1954 (look up Operation Wetback on the web).

    As I have said, I really think this guy is a shyster. He sounds like a recording of RINOs and Silicon Valley billionaires promoting another amnesty scheme. They all talk about preconditions that they have no intention of working to get--just the amnesty (a.k.a. legal status).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    I do believe there are many citizens who do not know or who have not listened carefully to Dr. Ben Carson on the issue of illegal immigration and what to do with the millions who are here illegally.

    He does talk about taking away the "goodies" that lure many of them.
    Yes, but that's just phony rhetoric about taking the "goodies" away, because his plan is to legalize them and make them citizens which makes them legally eligible for all the "goodies".

    Furthermore, for Carson to refer to these programs we have set up to help poor and struggling Americans as "goodies" is an example of what an elitist he is. Anyone who has met most of the American families struggling with poverty, no jobs, ghetto environments, too many children to feed and raise, and so forth, all because of lack of jobs or lack of jobs that pay sustainable wages they can live on, would not refer to these programs as "goodies", but as necessities, so Carson is one of the worse types of Elitist there is because he actually grew up on these "goodies" and now wants to think they're Christmas Candy.

    Also, what he says about the poor paying taxes so they can have pride .... oh puleeze. That's the most sickening thing I've ever heard, to tax the income of poor people who don't earn enough money to keep their utilities on and then claim they want to live in the dark with the "pride" of paying federal income taxes is repugnant elitism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes, but that's just phony rhetoric about taking the "goodies" away, because his plan is to legalize them and make them citizens which makes them legally eligible for all the "goodies".

    Furthermore, for Carson to refer to these programs we have set up to help poor and struggling Americans as "goodies" is an example of what an elitist he is. Anyone who has met most of the American families struggling with poverty, no jobs, ghetto environments, too many children to feed and raise, and so forth, all because of lack of jobs or lack of jobs that pay sustainable wages they can live on, would not refer to these programs as "goodies", but as necessities, so Carson is one of the worse types of Elitist there is because he actually grew up on these "goodies" and now wants to think they're Christmas Candy.

    Also, what he says about the poor paying taxes so they can have pride .... oh puleeze. That's the most sickening thing I've ever heard, to tax the income of poor people who don't earn enough money to keep their utilities on and then claim they want to live in the dark with the "pride" of paying federal income taxes is repugnant elitism.
    Regardless of how you rationalize it, I still think "goodies" is an appropriate word to describe something that is given without actually being earned through your labor.

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