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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Regardless of how you rationalize it, I still think "goodies" is an appropriate word to describe something that is given without actually being earned through your labor.
    I don't think you would consider it an appropriate term if your job was stolen by an illegal alien or immigrant and to feed your family you needed food stamps to eat or Medicaid for medical treatment.

    The fight against illegal immigration is to help the poor in our country who have been robbed, cheated, and destroyed by this massive outrageous immigration, so I don't think trivializing the essential safety nets Americans need to survive until we fix this problem and get them their jobs and earned income back as "goodies" shows a clear understanding of the problem and its consequences by Ben Carson.
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    It's free government cheese, not goodies!

    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Regardless of how you rationalize it, I still think "goodies" is an appropriate word to describe something that is given without actually being earned through your labor.
    It's not "goodies". It's free government cheese! It's free government cheese for illegal aliens who work off the books and pay no taxes on their earned wages. It's not free cheese for American Citizens who pay taxes on their earned wages.


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    If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now free Obamacare along with FREE BACON, we can blackmail them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills____ Our Washington Establishment’s Free Cheese Democracy, designed to establish a federal plantation which redistributes wealth that wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I don't think you would consider it an appropriate term if your job was stolen by an illegal alien or immigrant and to feed your family you needed food stamps to eat or Medicaid for medical treatment.

    The fight against illegal immigration is to help the poor in our country who have been robbed, cheated, and destroyed by this massive outrageous immigration, so I don't think trivializing the essential safety nets Americans need to survive until we fix this problem and get them their jobs and earned income back as "goodies" shows a clear understanding of the problem and its consequences by Ben Carson.
    Yeah, well what if your just too darn lazy to work and prefer taking advantage of the system? Can you deny that there are some American citizens that fit that bill? I'm not "trivializing anything, just calling something not physically earned what it is. I also believe in calling illegal immigrants what they are, which is not undocumented immigrants. Charity, handouts, and goodies are just words with virtually the same meaning.

    Besides all that, the context that "goodies" was used in was specifically appropriate in this situation. Some illegals do come and remain here because of the many "goodies" that are made available to them. We must stop the illegal alien goody train!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    We must stop the illegal alien goody train!
    Which means to condemn those running for office who want to allow tens of millions of illegal entrants to remain here instead of promoting laws which will encourage illegal entrants to leave our country.


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    To support Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!


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    "It's free government cheese for illegal aliens who work off the books and pay no taxes on their earned wages. It's not free cheese for American Citizens who pay taxes on their earned wages."

    IRS says they have $500 billion in uncollected revenue every year. What an insult to the person who does pay taxes! None of them seem to care about doing anything about it! I keep contacting M Bachmann. Why should anyone follow any rules anymore if they can get away with it?
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    This is such important info about Ben Carson, Im going to make this a sticky and invite other ALIPAC activists to weigh in.

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    Where is Ben Carson's compassion for American Citizens?

    Ben Carson has stated that "we have taken the moral low road on this [the immigration] issue…" And, he has repeatedly said he supports giving illegal immigrants a path to legalization and eventual citizenship.

    Mr.Carson tells indicates we must show compassion towards those who have invaded our borders. But where is Carson's compassion for American Citizens who have been made into tax slaves to support the economic needs of tens of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled foreigners who have invaded our borders?

    Where is Ben Carson's compassion for American Citizens who have been squeezed out of decent paying jobs in the construction trades by illegal entrants who work off the books, below the going wage and do not pay taxes on their earned wages which is how they compete for these jobs?

    Where is Ben Carson's compassion for American Citizens who have had their schools disrupted and destroyed by the flood of illegal entrants into these schools?

    Where is Ben Carson's compassion for American Citizens who have lost their local emergency rooms which have been bankrupted and had to close down because illegal entrants use these facilities and do not pay for the service they receive?

    And where is Ben Carson's compassion for our nation's inner city Black youth who have been squeezed out of unskilled entry level jobs by illegal entrants?

    Seems to me Ben Carson has more compassion for those who have invaded our borders than caring about the general welfare of the United States and the devastating effects inflicted upon American citizens from those who have invaded our borders.

    Ben Carson's liberal type of compassion has helped to create some of the devastating effects which American Citizens now suffer and has helped to destroy America from within!

    As a candidate for president of the United States, Mr. Carson needs to rethink his "compassion" towards illegal entrants and worry about America's general welfare and the best interest of her citizens instead of the interests of those who have invaded our borders and break our laws.


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    To support Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!


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    Ben Carson and Marco Rubio are both aligned with Jeb Bush and Barack Obama on immigration amnesty issues and TPP!

    They are part of the same faction.

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    Federal Court confirms Ben Carson is wrong on legal status for illegal entrants!

    Ben Carson has repeatedly indicated he would give legal status to millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded our borders. But Carson’s compassion for these illegal entrants does not take into account the devastating financial burden which would be thrust upon American citizens who would be taxed to finance Carson’s compassion. This issue was partly addressed this past Friday when a Federal Appeals Court struck down Obama’s desire which is similar to Carson’s which is to legalize millions of foreigners who have invaded our borders and broken our laws!

    See: Appeals court rules against Obama on immigration program

    “The public interest favors maintenance of the injunction” as the legality of Obama’s immigration programs is decided, Smith wrote in an opinion joined by Judge Jennifer Elrod.

    Smith added that the new program goes beyond the law enforcement concept of “prosecutorial discretion,” in which a government with limited resources sets priorities for enforcement. Rather, he wrote, the policy “is the affirmative act of conferring ‘lawful presence’ on a class of unlawfully present aliens. Though revocable, that new designation triggers eligibility for federal and state benefits that would not otherwise be available.”


    The question is, will tonight’s debate moderators question Carson and the other candidates [Bush, Rubio, and John Kasich] why they propose to legalize millions of illegal entrants when their presence will make American citizens tax slaves to support their economic needs?

    As of this writing, I have yet to hear a media personality on FoxNews confront one of the above mentioned candidates, including Ben Carson, on this critical issue. Nor have I heard one ask the above candidates if they would support and advocate a policy which would make it very uncomfortable for these illegal entrants to stay such as:

    impose a stiff jail sentence one illegal entrants if caught working in our country;

    require business owners to utilize e-verify when hiring;

    severely punishing business owners who knowingly hire illegal aliens;

    require emergency rooms to use e-verify when treating suspected aliens;

    denying illegal entrants any medical care (excepting in a life death situation);

    deny the children of illegal aliens access to a State’s public schools system;

    forbid and make it a crime for illegals to live in any public housing unit or section eight housing;

    and never allow a person who has entered our country illegally to re-enter our country legally in the future, all of which would actually encourage many illegal entrants to swiftly exit our country on their own.

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    To support Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!

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    Carson is a PSYCHO and a LIAR! HOW on earth is he doing so good?? HOW can anyone like this lunatic?? The fact that he is PRO amnesty makes him even worse! You would think his poll numbers would massively TANK now!!

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