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    Best Way To Get Rid Of Illegals & Get Obama Out of Office Post Cost To Voters

    In my opinion I would not worry about the spanish vote because it's already going to the democrats and always will no matter what. Some republican politicians like Graham and Rubio are jelly heads. They keep telling everyone that grabbing a small percentage of spanish votes away from the democrats will win the election so they want us to sell our soles and give amnesty to millions of them for a few votes from the spanish that won't matter anyway since they aren't the voting blocks that will be the deciding votes.

    The deciding voting blocks as in 2008 will be women and young students just out of high school and college age persons. These are the voting blocks that got Obama elected and Obama just won by a couple of percentage points. John McCain went on the media stating he lost because he didn't get enough spanish votes but that is incorrect and John McCain is a fool. John McCain lost by a few percentage points because he was an idiot and sponsored the McCain/Kennedy bill in 2006 giving amnesty to illegals. That bill cost him the presidency because he lost millions of votes from women and independants that wanted the illegals gone. If you give amnesty you loose!

    Graham and Rubio are going to lose Romney votes by supporting amnesty for illegals and that's a sure bet! They are mush minds that just speak well. They think Rubio won Florida because he's spanish, "Wrong". Rubio won Florida because he came out a few times against amnesty then after he won he started to flip flop.

    The best way to win votes for Romney and get rid of the illegals is to show the voters just how much money they are spending on illegal immigrantion. Really, go to my issues page below and read everything. driving the prices up through the roof. Illegals caused the big housing crash of 2008 because banks gave them "Home Loans". Hospitals are going crazy and charging $100,000 for a $3000 routine surgery and the insurance companies are paying the hospitals then charging higher premium rates.

    Go to my "" and read it all then take parts of it or create your own stories and post articles all over the internet showing voters they are paying through the arse for the illegals and they don't even know it.

    I started posting some of this stuff I found out but it's alot of work and I don't know if I can get enough people reading these articles in time. I've talked to a few people and they are blow away and pissed off about some of this BS they have been paying for because of illegals.

    Here's one of the people I talked to on Facebook. You will have to log into your facebook account to see the post and how horrified she is about what illegals are costing her friend. There's others too I've talked to and they will be talking to others about the cost of illegals to them. Maybe we can get millions of people talking if everyone makes a few posts here and there.



    Really, read some of this stuff I posted and copy paste it or create your own stories. Getting people educated on the money they are losing due to illegal immigration will end illegal immigration and get rid of Obama and all the democrats.

    P.S. Pinterest is mainly women members right now and it's the women that need to know that their finances were crushed by illegals and voting for Obama will keep their purses empty. Really!

    Thanks Everyone!

    Here's the link to my Home Loan Crash Because of Illegal Immigration story here on Alipac

    Copy paste it everywhere you can or rewrite it to your liking and post your rewritten story all over the internet. Just get people educated before the election and Obama finds more ways to get illegals legal status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hat In Ring View Post
    In my opinion I would not worry about the spanish vote because it's already going to the democrats and always will no matter what. Some republican politicians like Graham and Rubio are jelly heads. They keep telling everyone that grabbing a small percentage of spanish votes away from the democrats will win the election so they want us to sell our soles and give amnesty to millions of them for a few votes from the spanish that won't matter anyway since they aren't the voting blocks that will be the deciding votes.

    The deciding voting blocks as in 2008 will be women and young students just out of high school and college age persons. These are the voting blocks that got Obama elected and Obama just won by a couple of percentage points. John McCain went on the media stating he lost because he didn't get enough spanish votes but that is incorrect and John McCain is a fool. John McCain lost by a few percentage points because he was an idiot and sponsored the McCain/Kennedy bill in 2006 giving amnesty to illegals. That bill cost him the presidency because he lost millions of votes from women and independants that wanted the illegals gone. If you give amnesty you loose!

    Graham and Rubio are going to lose Romney votes by supporting amnesty for illegals and that's a sure bet! They are mush minds that just speak well. They think Rubio won Florida because he's spanish, "Wrong". Rubio won Florida because he came out a few times against amnesty then after he won he started to flip flop.

    The best way to win votes for Romney and get rid of the illegals is to show the voters just how much money they are spending on illegal immigrantion. Really, go to my issues page below and read everything. Illegals are driving up demand on utilities, gasoline, driving the prices up through the roof. Illegals caused the big housing crash of 2008 because banks gave them "Home Loans". Hospitals are going crazy and charging $100,000 for a $3000 routine surgery and the insurance companies are paying the hospitals then charging higher premium rates.

    Go to my "Issues Page" and read it all then take parts of it or create your own stories and post articles all over the internet showing voters they are paying through the arse for the illegals and they don't even know it.

    I started posting some of this stuff I found out but it's alot of work and I don't know if I can get enough people reading these articles in time. I've talked to a few people and they are blow away and pissed off about some of this BS they have been paying for because of illegals.

    Here's one of the people I talked to on Facebook. You will have to log into your facebook account to see the post and how horrified she is about what illegals are costing her friend. There's others too I've talked to and they will be talking to others about the cost of illegals to them. Maybe we can get millions of people talking if everyone makes a few posts here and there.

    http://www.facebook.com/anne.starlin...50979952671220

    Really, read some of this stuff I posted Hat In Ring (hatinring) on Pinterest and copy paste it or create your own stories. Getting people educated on the money they are losing due to illegal immigration will end illegal immigration and get rid of Obama and all the democrats.

    P.S. Pinterest is mainly women members right now and it's the women that need to know that their finances were crushed by illegals and voting for Obama will keep their purses empty. Really!

    Thanks Everyone!

    Here's the link to my Home Loan Crash Because of Illegal Immigration story here on Alipac

    Here's A Story About Illegals For People That Lost Their Homes Due To The 2008 Crash

    Copy paste it everywhere you can or rewrite it to your liking and post your rewritten story all over the internet. Just get people educated before the election and Obama finds more ways to get illegals legal status.
    This alone is what makes it so obvious that it is both parties wanting amnesty. Everyone knows that is why John Mccain was beaten and both parties and the media cover it up. This may very well be what gets Obozo beaten. The whole country is against Amnesty, they just don't want us to know it. If in doubt, check out Topix poll on Illegal immigration. That says it all in a nut shell The voters of this country are dead set against any form of amnesty.But you would not know it from the media or either political party.
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    [QUOTEThe best way to win votes for Romney and get rid of the illegals is to show the voters just how much money they are spending on illegal immigrantion. ][/QUOTE]

    Absolutely! Both the GOP and the Democrat parties always try to frame the illegal immigration issues as "social issues". To some extent they are, but more importantly they are economic issues. As one reporter in the Rose Garden tried to point out and get the Dictator in Chief to respond (unsuccessfully), what impact does Obama's new policy have on already staggeringly high unemployment rates among the less technically skilled, and specifically Hispanic and black youths. Obama could only say in a non-reply that businesses support this new policy. Of course high unemployment drives more social safety net costs, plus there are the less obvious social and monetary costs associated with crimes committed not only by the illegal aliens, but also by the chronically unemployed who may turn to crime in desperation. The estimates I have seen on the cost of illegal immigration range from 80 billion dollars per year to 200 billion dollars per year. I do not know which estimate is more accurate (probaboly 200B) but if you just split the difference you are looking at 140 billion dollars per year. That is 1.4 Trillion dollars over 10 years. How can the GOP and the Dems NOT recognize this as a major economic issue? Are they not the ones who could not find any significant budget cuts that could even remotely approach 1 Trillion dollars over 10 years, and here all they have to do is enforce EXISTING laws, and they could be saving nearly one and one half time their 1 trillion dollar goal WITHOUT ANY BUDGET CUTS.
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    The importing of poor under educated workers and at same time outsourcing along with loss of majority of hard goods manufacturing is in fact a stupid policy without correction to these policies the American middle class will be lost and we will be left with a rich/poor society, it really is just that simple but those in power do not want to address these issues simply because they are gaining wealth based on this policy, it all comes down to greed.
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    what impact does Obama's new policy have on already staggeringly high unemployment rates among the less technically skilled, and specifically Hispanic and black youths.
    Don't forget if the illegals don't get the job they apply for they will be the first to yell DISCRIMINATION! That's what they do in my town and then sue the employers if they don't get their way. It's so bad that the workplaces in my town will not fire a minority because they know there will be retaliation!
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    Both parties do want amnesty, The democrats admit it. Since RR the leaders of the republicans have displayed it. GWB's open border policy showed the same. It has been obvious since the 1980's that anti-illegal immigrants have little if any influence with those in powerful places.

    Romney is trying to take the middle road, but his tendency to flip-flop with the political winds is starting to show us plainly that he is not on our side. No suprise, He is and represents big business. Big business has always supported low wages. Big business is quite profitable again, but not hiring, likely awaiting high unemployment to push wage scales down. Or is it waiting for more illegals to arrive. So ...., now what?
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    Big business is quite profitable again, but not hiring, likely awaiting high unemployment to push wage scales down. Or is it waiting for more illegals to arrive. So ...., now what?
    GOP has always been big business. It never has been officially conservative. The GOP hated Goldwater, and it hated Reagan. This is why the teaparty movement is so critical, because it is the only way the GOP will get changed internally. Otherwise we will continue to have what the Brits have, a two party system that is Socialist and Socialist Lite. Romney is going to reflect the core GOP big business attitude.

    I do not look to him to resolve the core illegal immigration issues. What I believe he can do, and will, is to kill Obama's anti-business policies regarding energy, taxes, excess regulations, etc. I also believe he will get behind people like Paul Ryan and Connie Mack who have specific ideas that will enable this country to avoid bankruptcy. He may even get behind Ron Paul's quest to audit the Federal Reserve and bring it under Congressional oversight. Those would all be major accomplishments and would get this country and its economy headed in the right direction.

    With regard to illegal immigration, the only way Romney will seriously address the core issues in a meaningful manner is when he comes to realize that the cost of illegal immigration at 100+ billion dollars per year is Big Business, and while some companies, organizations, corporations, etc. may benefit from cheap labor and illegal immigration, their benefits are off set by the burden on the debt, the deficit, the social safety net, U.S. Workers, and the U.S. taxpayers. We all need to do what we can to get him to come to this realization.
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    This BS with the politicians will go on and on if the people do not step in and take action against amnesty.

    I've talked to plenty of business owners that are OK with illegals, mostly construction contractors that vote democratic. I've talked to some women that like grabbing a few illegals to do repairs around their houses. I'm always seeing vehicles stop at the local illegal alien day labor squatting areas and picking them up to dig ditches.

    The only way to stop this nonsense is to educate U.S. citizens about how much illegals costing them. They won't listen to the big numbers being posted here by Alipac members showing how much it's costing government because the money isn't in their pockets, it's in the governments pockets.

    When people get educated to the fact that they are paying outrageous utility bills (gas, electric,etc....) each month because illegal aliens are driving up demand and the enviromentalists are not letting new energy plants be built they will listen because the money is coming directly out of their pockets on a monthly basis.

    Same with gasoline, new processing plants haven't been built to keep up with demand and all the illegals are driving up demand and when demand is greater than output the prices for gasoline start to increase. The voters pay this out of their pockets everyday.

    Hospitals started overcharging due to illegal immigrants not paying. Now the hospitals are finding out nobody is going to do anything to them about it and they are charging millions over the actual cost of illegal immigrants driving up insurance premiums. This money comes out of the pockets of the voter everyday.

    Millions of voters are uneducated and don't understand the big numbers you guys are tossing around concerning government spending and that's why the democrats get away with massive spending that's killing the U.S.

    People do understand about the everyday costs of monthly bills where the money is coming out of their own personal bank accounts. They will crap their pants when they get educated as to how much they are paying out each month to utility companies due to illegal immigrants.

    People don't know about the home loans that were given to illegal immigrants and it's the illegal immigrants that caused the crash. People do know how much money they lost when the economy crashed in 2008. When they finally realize it was illegal immigrants getting home loans by greedy bankers you can bet your last dollar anybody that wants to give amnesty will be toast!



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    This is a MUST see video Immigration, World Poverty & Gumballs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... for those that think open borders or amnesty is the way to go. I've had my day in the sun, raised a wonderful son and had an excellent career until disability hit.

    I used to want Grandchildren, now, not so sure as this world is so screwed up. This Native American knows open borders will only drive this nation into poverty, one I do NOT want for future generations.

    Octomom created a life of poverty for her children as she could NOT afford them, USA now on a much grander scale, can't take in the entire world!

    More stories and free faxes at www.numbersusa.com

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinssdad View Post
    Both parties do want amnesty, The democrats admit it. Since RR the leaders of the republicans have displayed it. GWB's open border policy showed the same. It has been obvious since the 1980's that anti-illegal immigrants have little if any influence with those in powerful places.

    Romney is trying to take the middle road, but his tendency to flip-flop with the political winds is starting to show us plainly that he is not on our side. No suprise, He is and represents big business. Big business has always supported low wages. Big business is quite profitable again, but not hiring, likely awaiting high unemployment to push wage scales down. Or is it waiting for more illegals to arrive. So ...., now what?
    ArrogantAmerican!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeimMom View Post
    This is a MUST see video Immigration, World Poverty & Gumballs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... for those that think open borders or amnesty is the way to go. I've had my day in the sun, raised a wonderful son and had an excellent career until disability hit.

    I used to want Grandchildren, now, not so sure as this world is so screwed up. This Native American knows open borders will only drive this nation into poverty, one I do NOT want for future generations.

    Octomom created a life of poverty for her children as she could NOT afford them, USA now on a much grander scale, can't take in the entire world!

    More stories and free faxes at www.numbersusa.com
    Yeah, I can certainly understand what you are saying about bringing more kids into a messed up world. But, it will be people like you that finally stand up with other concerned U.S. citizens that will drive the democratic beast away from their agenda of constant destruction of the U.S. to fill their pockets with cash.

    Everyone one of us that wants to kill the beast so to speak must stand up and start posting messages on forums or anyplace they can find (Facebook) with messages that strike at the heart of people.

    I've come to realize that posting messages that target how much money people have to pay out of their personal bank accounts each month or on a yearly basis works well to get people to listen and get involved attacking the beast. People understand better what is coming out of their paycheck each month to cover bills.

    I'm sorry to here about your disability. I'm kinda disabled myself but can still get up and do stuff as long as I go slow and don't push it physically.

    If you have insurance to cover your disability you are getting hosed bad! You personal physician may not be hosing you but if you have to go into the hospital for treatment the hospital will hose the insurance company and their are constant insurance premium increases every few years as the hospitals hose you more and more.

    Look through my issues board and pick and choose or find some other ways companies are hosing us for profit and start posting on message boards.

    Not to many people know about the illegals getting home loans yet. Really, it's a well guarded secret by the banks. The U.S. government shifted the blame over to the removal of the security funds on derivative trading and hid the truth about illegals getting home loans from greedy bankers due to the U.S. government also removing loan requirements that were keeping illegals from getting the loans. The U.S. government shifted the blame because it's their fault for removing the safety features that would have kept this from happening.

    The democratic party under Bill Clinton removed "TWO" (2) key safety features in financial laws that were put in place to keep the big financial collaspe in the housing industry that happened in 2008 from happening.



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