Thread: Collection Point for Ballot Initiatives and Recommendations

Friends,

Please help us collect info on state ballot initiatives that involve our issue so we can issue an advisory to our national supporters this weekend.

Currently, it is my understanding that our supporters should vote against two ballot initiatives one in FL and one in AZ. Here is the info I have received on both. Please make sure this info is correct and locate any others as fast as you can.

Florida

PRESS RELEASE:
Mr. William Gheen
ALIPAC

Please publish this voting data for Florida. I hope to reach your Florida members. Thanks very much for your help. Keep up your great job.

Sincerely,

ENOS SCHERA, V.P.- CITIZENS OF DADE UNITED, MIAMI, FLA.
New Email address: ESchera@comcast.net
website: www.immigrationControlFlorida.com

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URGENT! 2008 ELECTION ENDORSEMENTS FROM CITIZENS OF DADE UNITED, MIAMI, FLA. Oct. 30, 2008 Plus endorsements from ALIPAC and www.NumbersUSA.com
The Nov.4th Voting Ballot in Florida has a deliberately misleading title on Amendment#1 – Constitutional Amendment- Article 1-Section 2 and is titled, "DECLARATION OF RIGHTS"! Proposing an amendment to the State Constitution to delete provisions authorizing the legislature to regulate or prohibit the ownership, inheritance, disposition, and possession of real property by "ALIENS INELIGIBLE FOR CITIZENSHIP"!
What this really means in non-legalese language is the ballot question asks you to vote yes or no to removing a law that was put in our Florida Constitution in 1898? that says (in non-legalese language) that ILLEGAL ALIENS MAY NOT OWN LAND, PROPERTY OR POSESS INHERITANCE OF PROPERTY!
The ballot is deliberately mistitled "DECLARATION OF RIGHTS" to fool voters, because "ILLEGAL ALIENS" should not have "RIGHTS" like U.S. citizens have. The only right they should have is "deportation! There are 8 Amendments on the Florida Ballot.
On the Nov.4th - Election Ballot question AMENDMENT# 1 VOTE NO (which means you do not want illegal aliens owning land, property or inheritance funds.
VOTE AGAINST THESE STATE REP'S. WHO STOPPED 6 IMMIGRATION BILLS in 2008!
On the Nov. 4, 2008 ballot: In Fla. State House District# 112 – VOTE AGAINST Rep.DAVID RIVERA and VOTE FOR HIS OPPONENT BETTY GAFFNEY (Rep. Rivera’s District covers Miami-Dade County---Broward County – and parts of Palm Beach County)
Nov.4th In Fla. State House District# 119 –VOTE AGAINST Rep. JUAN ZAPATA and VOTE FOR HIS OPPONENT MICHAEL HANLEY CALDERIN
Detailed explaination:
* FLORIDA STATE LEGISLATORS ELECTIONS: VOTE AGAINST Fla. State Rep. DAVID RIVERA ( R. Miami Cuban exile) who stopped 6 state bills that would have stopped illegal aliens jobs, fined employers a nd had police report illegals to the ICE/ Immigration, Customs & Enforcement! Fla.House Speaker MARCO RUBIO (R. Miami Cuban exile) appointed Rep. DAVID RIVERA as his "Majority Leader" in the State House, as well as appointing him to be the "House Rules Chairman"! These are two of the most powerful key legislative jobs with utmost political clout that permits him and the House Speaker to control all bills as well as their content as well as when they decide to debate bills or when to send bills to Cmtes. to be debated. These ruthless Anti-American Miami Cuban legislators pulled dirty tricks on all 6 legislators such as Rep. Gayle Harrell…Rep. Don Brown…Rep. Sandra Adams and others who had bills to stop illegal aliens jobs & wasted billions of dollars in funds for services. State Ho
use Speaker MARCO RUBIO held up all 6 bills from being heard in Committees and then at the very end of the legislative session, he demanded that all 6 Rep’s. with bills would only be allowed to combine the language from 6 bills and condense them into only 1 Immigration Bill and permitted legislators of the 6 bills to hold a Public Hearing Sept.8, 2008. Members from several Immigr a tion Control Groups in Fla. spoke at that House Hearing. After speakers presented their factual data of outrageous costs that illegal aliens are costing Florida taxpayers in services, stolen jobs, crimes, courts, translations, education, etc. House Speaker MARCO RUBIO & his Rules Chairman Rep.DAVID RIVERA committed the ultimate spiteful trick on Americans by pulling all 6 House Bills so they would never even get discussed in any of the multiple Cmtes. in 2008! Rep. MARCO RUBIO was Term Limited and can not run again!
But his Rules Chmn. DAVID RIVERA is running for relection Nov.4th! At the end of the Public House Hearing Sept.8, 2008 Rep. DAVID RIVERA and Rep.JUAN ZAPATA, House Hispanic Caucus Chmn. both spoke against all 6 Immigration Control Bills and inferred that supporters of the bills were "racists"…"anti-Hispanic"…"xenophobes, etc. other nasty names! These anti-American Hispanic’s do not deserve to be legislators. They use the same communist tactics upon us legal "hard working U. S. citizen taxpayers", like the type they say they ran away from in Cuba! For persons who did not attend the Sept. 8th Public Hearing, please view the following video’s and transcripts of testimony at that Rep. Andy Gardiner- State Affairs Cmte. - Publi c Hearing The statements will shock you:
(1) Miami Developer Jorge Ramos Testifies on Miami's Illegal Immigration Problems - Video
URL: http://www.flimen.org/images/Jorge_Ramo ... timony.wmv
(2) Video of Rep DAVID RIVERA at State Affairs Workshop on April 8, 2008 - Video < o>
URL: http://www.flimen.org/images/Rep_Rivera.wmv
Written transcript of Rep. DAVID RIVERA at State Affairs Workshop on Apr.8, 2008
http://www.flimen.org/articles/Rep_Rive ... script.htm
(3) Video of Rep. JUAN ZAPATA at State Affairs Workshop on April 8, 2008
URL: http://www.flimen.org/images/Rep_Zapata.wmv
Written Transcript of Rep JUAN ZAPATA at State Affairs Workshop on April 8, 2008
(4) FLORIDA HOUSE SPEAKER RUBIO DEFENDS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION? - Video
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xIgN51XxD4
(5) Martin Memorial Testifies to Illegal Alien Health Care Costs Carol Plato testified. - Video
http://www.flimen.org/images/Martin_Mem ... ,_2008.wmv
(Ms. Plato reveals the outrageous costs of "illegal aliens".
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2008 Voter Guide
Information below provides information on candidates for the 2008 General Election on November 4, 2008.
The two sources are ALIPAC endorsements and NumbersUSA assessments both of which grade the candidates on their pro-enforcement immigration position.
ALIPAC Endorsements for Florida:
1st district - no endorsement
2nd district - no endorsement
3rd district - no endorsement
4th district- no endorsement
5th district: ENDORSED Virginia Brown-Waite for US Congress, Republican, Incumbent, ABI / IMMIGRATION REPORT CARD rating = Grade A
6th district Endorsed Cliff Stearns for Congress, Republican, Incumbent ABI Grade A*
7th district Endorsed John Mica for Congress, Republican, Incumbent, ABI Score A *
8th district Endorsed Todd Long for Congress, Republican,, Challenger ABI Survey
9th district: E Gus Bilirakis for US Congress, Republican, Incumbent ABI Score A
10th district - No endorsement
11th district - No endorsement
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/tes ... ID=19212th district
13th district: Endorsed Vern Buchanan for Congress,, Republican, Incumbent ABI Grade A-
14th district - No endorsement
15th district - No endorsement
16th district: ENDORSED Tom Rooney for Congress, Republican, Challenger,,
17th district
18th district-(See information below re-incumbent U.S. Rep. ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN in Cong. District 1
19th district - No endorsement
20th district (See information below re- incumbent U.S. Rep. DEBBIE WASSERMAN-SCHULTZ
21st district-(See information below re- incumbent U.S. Rep.LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART)
22nd district ENDORSED Allen B. West for Congress, Republican,, Challenger, ABI Survey
23rd district - No endorsement
24th district ENDORSED Tom Feeney for Congress,Republican,Incumbent,ABI Score B+ *
25th district-(See information below re- incumbent U.S. Rep.MARIO DIAZ-BALART in Cong. District 25) Look on your Voters Registration Card for your U.S. Cong. District Number.

ARIZONA

Attention W Gheen

HISTORY
Arizona has the most effective, non-discriminatory employer sanctions
law in the nation. It has been upheld in four court challenges. The
Legal Arizona Workers Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2008,
requires all Arizona employers to use the E-Verify program. E-Verify
is an essential tool to assure a legal workforce. It achieves an
accuracy rate of 97 percent by matching names, birth dates, social
security numbers and, in some instances, photos for job seekers. As
early as October of 2007, before the new law went into effect,
Arizona saw positive results. Illegal workers were leaving
voluntarily. Fraudulent documents and identity theft that were
previously used were no longer enough to obtain employment. The Stop
Illegal Hiring Act (Prop 202) was drafted for a consortium of
businesses, chambers of commerce, and trade associations seeking an
endless supply of cheap illegal labor. Those organizations would
profit from a modern-day form of slavery - exploiting illegal
aliens. Those same groups were responsible for legal efforts which
were rejected by District Court and the Ninth Circuit Court. When
legal challenges were thrown out, those groups devised Stop Illegal
Hiring. This brilliant scheme is so deceptive. It counts on Arizona
voters to only read the title and not pay attention to the contents.
These authors of this proposition believe that the 70-75 percent of
Arizona voters who want only legal workers employed will not look at
the details.
Here is their deception.

THE PROPOSITION
The "Stop Illegal Hiring Act" guts the primary enforcement mechanisms
of the current employer sanctions law:
It abolishes required use of E-Verify. This is key change that the
initiative's backers cleverly buried on page seven. It would return E-
Verify to a voluntary program and allow employers to resume the
former "wink and nod" method of verifying employment eligibility
through the I-9 process. Federal Judge John Walker blasted the
current federal I-9 process when he said "The I-9 documents (that
workers present to companies) are fraudulent." Proposition 202
backers wish to perpetuate the same verification system that has been
proven over 20 years to be rife with fraud and identity theft.
Governor Napolitano has stated that E-Verify is a very simple process
and takes only minutes to accomplish. If an employer complies with
the I-9 requirement (which we know is not enforced by the feds) this
creates a non-rebuttable presumption they are innocent (that means a
court cannot find them guilty because it cannot be rebutted.
It requires Arizona to wait until the Federal Government has taken
action against an employer before the state takes action. We all
know how ineffective and useless the Federal Government has been.
It exempts thousands of Arizona employers by offering the use of the
same standards that have not worked in the past. It removes
corporations from the definition of "license." It has introduced
language to subject an employer to sanctions "if the employer has
more than four employees and pays hourly wages or salary in cash and
not by check or direct deposit to a financial institution" and fails
to make withholding deductions, fails to report new hires to the
Department of Economic Security or fails to provide coverage for
workers compensation. The same provisions already exist for
violations by employers with just one employee. It also provides that
out of state employers (who are licensed in AZ) are not governed by
the employer sanctions law.
It eliminates the Silent Witness portion of the current law. All
complaints regarding employer violations of the law must be written
and signed. This would stop employees from reporting violations.
Anonymous tips are an important tool in taking criminals, including
serial killers, off the streets.
It imposes an impossible standard of proof. High-level managers who
are not officers or owners could hire illegal aliens with impunity,
and would not face any enforcement.

CONCLUSION:

Arizona citizens are not as naïve as this proposition's sponsors
assume!
Stop Illegal Hiring sounds good, but is a veiled attempt to deceive
voters by confusing them with a concept with which they all agree.
This proposition is "employer amnesty" and will nullify HB2779. Don't
let the name fool you! Those supporting this measure intend to make
hiring of illegals easier with less chance of penalty. DON'T BE
DECEIVED!

It is up to Arizona voters to recognize deception.

Vote No on Proposition 202.


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HEADS UP FOLKS! WE NEED YOUR RESPONSE ON THIS.

WE MUST SEND OUT AN EMAIL ALERT ON THESE BALLOT INITIATIVES TONIGHT!

NEED HELP!

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Links for Prop 202

http://www.votenoprop202.com

http://stopproposition202.com

Originally Posted by sspiff

Links for Prop 202

http://www.votenoprop202.com

http://stopproposition202.com

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