Thread: Congressman John Garamendi Plans to Reintroduce ‘No Fly, No Buy’ Bill

None of which changes my statement that you put in quotes as if to refute with your articles, which turned out to prove my statement was correct. If you want to post articles for the sake of posting information, then please do not take one of my statements, post an article to refute it, when my statement was proved correct with another one of your articles. That's just simple posting courtesy to avoid confusing or misleading forum viewers, seems to me. Or do what you want, but it comes across as very strange.

Trump, NRA to Meet to Discuss 'No Fly, No Buy' Anti-Terrorism Gun Proposal


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I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.
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Happy to meet @realdonaldtrump. Our position is no guns for terrorists—period. Due process & right to self-defense for law-abiding Americans
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The off duty Cop was the first person that he targeted. He had surveilled the club for quite a while before he struck.

Originally Posted by Newmexican

The off duty Cop was the first person that he targeted. He had surveilled the club for quite a while before he struck.

Yeah, the cop was okay though right? He was outside and not hurt? At least that's my understanding of the situation. The issue was I made the statement that the shooter was the only one in the room with a gun. If some of the patrons had been armed, things might have turned out better, someone might have been able to take him out hours earlier.

Have you heard the story apparently reported by a local ABC news outlet that when the SWAT team used guns to blow the holes in the walls of the building to get in that they shot patrons and killed several of the people inside? I just saw this today. I'm not posting it until more information is available but the source was a local ABC television station. They also say it was a calculated decision by Orlando Police, knowing this method of entry would result in "friendly-fire". Seems like battering rams on some of the other exists that were padlocked might have been a better method of entry.

This Armored Vehicle Punched Hole in Wall to Save Orlando Club Patrons

TOPICS:Ballistic Engineered Armored Response Counter Attack TruckBearCatISISOrlando ShootingTerrorism

A BearCat similar to one used by the Orlando, Florida, Police SWAT team to end the killings at a night club on Jan. 11 is shown here in a photo from the website of manufacturer Lenco Armored Vehicles of Pittsfield, Massachusetts.

POSTED BY: BRYANT JORDAN JUNE 13, 2016

One of the most critical pieces of equipment used to end the slaughter at the Orlando, Florida nightspot this past weekend was a BearCat, an armored vehicle that police used to ram a hole in the club wall.

Once officers punched through they set off a controlled detonation to distract or stun the shooter, afterwards identified as Omar Mateen, a self-professed follower of the Islamic State terrorist organization. Almost instantly, then, club patrons crawled and raced through the exit.

Mateen, who killed at least 50 people in The Pulse, a popular gay nightclub, was shot and killed by SWAT team members as he exited the club firing.

BearCat is an acronym for Ballistic Engineered Armored Response Counter Attack Truck, a military-styled truck built in Pittsfield, Massachusetts by Lenco Armored Vehicles, whose other products include a variant of the MRAP.

“It does look militaristic, but it’s designed for law enforcement,” Orlando Police Chief John Mina told the Orlando Sentinel in an interview in 2014. “We don’t use these vehicles for riots or any type of crowd control.”

On its website Lenco includes a number of stories in which police departments have used BearCats in a number of standoffs, including one earlier this year between Georgia sheriff’s deputies and a Ku Klux Klansman.

Though Mina said the BearCat is designed for law enforcement, Lenco markets its various armored vehicles to police and military, including foreign militaries.

According to The Washington Post, Mina said he was against obtaining surplus U.S. military vehicles for his department because of the costs associated with maintaining them. But he said that two years ago that he wanted a new, $230,000 BearCat to replace an aging tactical vehicle in his department.

http://www.defensetech.org/2016/06/1...-club-patrons/

It didn't punch those little round and oval holes in the wall shown in your pictures.

Originally Posted by Judy

It didn't punch those little round and oval holes in the wall shown in your pictures.

And bullets didn't make those big square holes.

Bullets made the smaller holes, you can see the openings surrounded by bullet holes in your pictures.

Originally Posted by Judy

Bullets made the smaller holes, you can see the openings surrounded by bullet holes in your pictures.

Everyone knows that bullets were fired at the building. That is no secret. You could see it happen on the live news coverage of the event.