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    The Crony Establishment Circles The Wagons For 2016 Jeb Bush run - Same old, same old

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    The Crony Establishment Circles The Wagons For 2016
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    Jeb (probably) gets in, The establishment steps up attacks on Rand Paul (They fear him)

    Nick Sorrentino | Oct 27, 2014





    The establishment is circling the wagons. They want their defense industry money protected. The Chamber of Commerce wants its corporate welfare protected. The big banks want to make sure their corporate welfare is protected. The establishment GOP consultants who would rather lose and make millions than have a smaller government want their cottage industry protected. House leadership fears a libertarianish president. So does the Senate leadership.
    The whole Beltway GOP does not want the party to evolve. (The Dems don’t want the GOP to evolve either.)They would rather it remain a big government party with a slightly different social flavor than the Democrats. (The Dems would prefer this also.)
    In 2016 the debate must be about economics – front and center. Not gay marriage, or abortion, or even “terrorism,” or some other wedge issue. But economics. How do we reestablish a free market system in this country? How do we reinvigorate the spirit of entreprenurialism which resides in the very DNA of this fine country? How do we curtail a system of crony capitalism which is killing the country from the inside like a giant statist cancer? How do we do that?
    Don’t look to Jeb for any ideas on this.
    I don’t think most Americans would see another Bush/Clinton election as step toward getting things back on track. Sadly it will likely be seen (if it happens) as just another step down on a gradual decline which many Americans just hope won’t become more precipitous.
    (From The Daily Caller)
    You know, I think on 2016 by the way I’d love to see Jeb [Bush], I’d love to see Chris Christie, and Paul Ryan would be a great candidate. The one person I don’t want to see is someone like Rand Paul who put out budgets to cut the military in half. I think that would be devastating for our party right now on national security.
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    I see very little difference between Bush and Hillary both are progressives, open border types, if the GOP does not stop the nonsense they will create a third party, I'm always amazed how leaders can be so narrow minded with so little understand of Joe average American.

    I've voted nearly 50 years without missing however if we get a Hillary/Bush ticket I'm done,simply stay home.
    I'm old with many opinions few solutions.

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    One thing I can tell you with absolute certainty, from personal experience, no one in the Bush family will give a or any gosh darn about an alien killing your son or breaking. into your home. Now that the party is flirting with another Bush, I will for the rest of my life say the same for it. You would think with two previous dances from that family the leaders of the party would have gained some thoughtful insight! Hmmmm, reckon not.

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    JEB BUSH TO AWARD HILLARY 'LIBERTY MEDAL' ON EVE OF BENGHAZI ANNIVERSARY





    by DR. SUSAN BERRY
    9 Sep 2013


    Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) will honor former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with this year’s Liberty Medal from the National Constitution Center. The award will be presented to Clinton on September 10th, the eve of the first anniversary of the terrorist attack on the United States mission in Benghazi that killed four Americans.

    The Christian Science Monitor reports that Bush, a potential GOP contender in the 2016 presidential race, is chairman of the board of trustees of the National Constitution Centerlocated in Philadelphia.

    “Former Secretary Clinton has dedicated her life to serving and engaging people across the world in democracy,” Bush said in a statement. “These efforts as a citizen, an activist, and a leader have earned Secretary Clinton this year’s Liberty Medal.”

    Bush’s decision to honor Clinton, who is considered by some to be a likely Democrat candidate for president in 2016, was condemned by the Independence Hall Tea Party Association of Philadelphia. According to the Christian Science Monitor, the organization released its own statement Monday, referring to the event as “extremely distressing,” and offering, instead, an opportunity for another Liberty Medal recipient.

    According to the statement:

    As all of you undoubtedly know, much of the blame for the Obama Administration's failure to contain the Benghazi attack and the scandalous handling of its aftermath, can be traced directly to Ms. Clinton.

    Indeed, a Congressional investigation regarding Ms. Clinton's role in the cover-up of the Administration's failure is still ongoing.

    A newly formed organization, the Independence Hall Foundation, will hold a"What Difference Does It Make" press conference on Independence Mall, September 10, 4 PM, to denounce the selection of Ms. Clinton as the 2013 Liberty Medal recipient and to offer an alternative award (details below).

    During the conference, the Foundation will name its choice of recipient(s) for the 2013 Defender of Liberty Medal.

    Dom Giordano will headline the presser and we certainly hope you will consider joining us.
    A 5 PM Prayer Vigil for the victims of the Benghazi attack will immediately follow the press conference.

    The National Constitution Center's announcement, dated June 27th, about the award of the Liberty Medal to Clinton, states:

    As Secretary of State, Clinton advocated for “smart power” in foreign policy, elevating diplomacy and development and repositioning them for the 21st century – with new tools, technologies, and partners, including the private sector and civil society around the world.

    National Constitution Center president and CEO Jeffrey Rosen said, “Hillary Clinton has devoted her life to expanding opportunities for ‘We the People’ not just in this country but around the globe.”

    Upon the announcement of Clinton’s award in June, Gateway Pundit’s Jim Hoft wrote, “Really Jeb, no one else came to mind?"

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/09/Jeb-Bush-To-Award-Hillary-Clinton-Liberty-Medal

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    Glenn Beck

    Please no.



    2016 = Clinton vs Bush?
    What difference does it make?
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    2016 = Clinton vs Bush?

    Monday, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:27 PM EDT

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    As if the prospect of the Clinton’s returning to the White House isn’t agonizing enough, now there’s talk that Jeb Bush is really serious about making a Presidential run as well. That could leave America in line for the mother of all establishment candidates, Clinton vs. Bush, to battle for America’s top spot. Will that be the be the last straw? Will Americans tune out completely? Glenn reacted to the news on radio today.
    “Well, today is the day, because we heard the great news that Jeb Bush is thinking about running. And he’s gonna go for it. He’s gonna go for running for president of the United States, which means we might have a Clinton/Bush race…Now change is coming,” Glenn joked.
    “So some might think we’re being a little sarcastic here,” Glenn said (quite sarcastically. “Oh, my, what would lead you to think that? We are so down with the Bushes. We’re so down with the Clintons that if that actually happens, there’s no need for me to even vote. I’m just so happy with either choice, there’s no reason for me to even vote. Unless there was a third party, and I would imagine that with a Clinton/Bush ticket, you could get a lot of people in America voting for a third party.”
    “It’s Clinton or Bush. What difference does it make? We all say we want an end to the madness. Are you kidding me? There’s one way to do it. Stop with the Clinton and Bushes.”
    Front page image courtesy of the AP.


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    2016 = Clinton vs Bush?
    Its like 2 turds floating in the punchbowl
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    I just threw up in my mouth.



    The Bushes, Led by W., Rally to Make Jeb ‘45’
    As Jeb Bush nears a decision to become the third member of his storied family to seek the presidency, the extended Bush clan and its attendant network are largely rallying behind the prospect and pulling the old machine out of the closet.
    nytimes.com|By PETER BAKER

    The Bushes, Led by W., Rally to Make Jeb ‘45’

    By PETER BAKER
    OCT. 26, 2014

    WASHINGTON — When Jeb Bush decides whether to run for president, there will be no family meeting à la Mitt Romney, no gathering at Walker’s Point in Kennebunkport to go over the pros and cons. “I don’t think it’ll be like a big internal straw poll,” said his son, Jeb Bush Jr.
    But if there were, the results of the poll are pretty much in. As Mr. Bush nears a decision to become the third member of his storied family to seek the presidency, the extended Bush clan and its attendant network, albeit with one prominent exception, are largely rallying behind the prospect and pulling the old machine out of the closet.

    “No question,” Jeb Jr. said in an interview, “people are getting fired up about it — donors and people who have been around the political process for a while, people he’s known in Tallahassee when he was governor. The family, we’re geared up either way.” Most important, he added, his mother, Columba, the prospective candidate’s politics-averse wife, has given her assent.



    Thom Tillis, right, a North Carolina Republican who is running for Senate, and Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida, in Greensboro, N.C., in September. Credit Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call Within the family, the top cheerleaders have been George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush, both of whom know something about running for president, and both of whom have an interest in perpetuating, if not redeeming, the family legacy. Barbara Bush, the former first lady and Jeb Bush’s mother, is unconvinced, according to people close to the family, but has been persuaded to stop saying it so publicly. George P. Bush, his other son, who is running for Texas land commissioner, has been supportive of what he calls a likely run.
    And then there is the larger Bush clan, the vast constellation of friends, advisers, strategists, pollsters, fund-raisers, donors and supporters assembled over several generations in public life. With Jeb Bush, the former two-term governor of Florida, comes one more chance to reach the top. “They’re like horses in the stall waiting for the gate to break,” said one family insider who has known Jeb Bush for decades and like others did not want to be named. “They’re all jumping up and down.”

    Just six years ago, at the end of the last tumultuous Bush presidency, this would have been all but unthinkable. But President Obama’s troubles, the internal divisions of the Republican Party, a newfound nostalgia for the first Bush presidency and a modest softening of views about the second have changed the dynamics enough to make plausible another Bush candidacy. And while Jeb Bush wants to run as his own man, invariably this is a family with something to prove.
    For the elder Mr. Bush, Jeb was always the son expected to go far in politics, the serious one with drive to spare. After George W. gave up drinking and surpassed his brother, the elder Mr. Bush still harbored ambitions for the second son. Now 90 and in fading health, Mr. Bush has been animated about a possible Jeb campaign, according to friends.
    “If it were up to his father, he would be a candidate,” said Jim McGrath, a spokesman for the former president. But the Bushes are wary of the presumption of a dynasty.

    “They’re very sensitive to the idea that anyone might think the family feels entitled to the nomination,” Mr. McGrath said. “First of all, it just wouldn’t be true. And second of all, they understand it would be poison to a candidacy if that perception were ever to get out there.”



    Jeb, center, in August 1989 with his father, President George H.W. Bush, and brother George W. off the Maine coast near Kennebunkport. Credit Jim Cole/Associated Press As for George W., he has not been especially close to Jeb, who is seven years younger. By all accounts, the former president is closer to their younger brother, Marvin, who visited him in the White House or at Camp David regularly.
    But George W. has become an outspoken advocate of a White House bid by Jeb. “The one person who is really, really trying to get Jeb to run is George W.,” said the family insider. “He’s talking it up all the time.”
    The former president lobbied Jeb when the two saw each other in Dallas several weeks ago, but he acknowledged with a laugh that his pressure could backfire. “I don’t think he liked it that his older brother was pushing him,” Mr. Bush told Fox News afterward.
    None of that means Jeb Bush will run. He has said he will decide by the end of the year, and could simply be keeping the possibility open to enhance his influence on the political stage. To some who have spoken with him in recent months, he has not exhibited the same fire that his father and brother did at this stage.
    Advisers to Mr. Bush said he has not authorized anyone to line up money or people to work for him. Some of the positions he has taken on immigration, taxes and education are at odds with the prevailing orthodoxy of his party. He knows he would have to find a way to distance himself from some of the unpopular decisions of his father, and especially of his brother, while overcoming broader Bush fatigue.
    And he has said publicly he does not want to run if it means getting caught in the “vortex of a mud fight,” acutely aware of the perils of bringing his family into the harsh light of modern politics. Columba was once stopped by customs agents for not declaring the full value of $19,000 in clothing and jewelry she bought in Paris, and their daughter Noelle was arrested on a prescription drug fraud charge a dozen years ago.
    “He has certainly not given anyone I’m aware of the ability to have conversations with potential donors or staff to keep his powder dry,” said Sally Bradshaw, a longtime adviser. “That doesn’t mean people don’t call us and say we want Jeb to run. But he has not given a green light to that.”
    Having said that, Mr. Bush has been active on the campaign trail, effectively building up chits. He has appeared at more than 35 campaign events for such figures as Governors Nikki R. Haley of South Carolina, Susana Martinez of New Mexico, Mary Fallin of Oklahoma and Rick Snyder of Michigan and Senate candidates like Joni Ernst in Iowa, Tom Cotton in Arkansas and Cory Gardner in Colorado.
    He has cultivated the family network as well, appearing at an anniversary of his father’s administration held in College Station, Tex., last spring and speaking to many other family supporters at his brother’s presidential library outside Dallas several weeks ago. The family believes the party’s money men have been waiting for Jeb and will give him an instant foundation if he runs, making him an establishment favorite against the insurgent conservative wing of the party.
    “The Bush network is definitely there, and a lot of good feelings about both 41 and 43 and what they stood for — a lot of that translates to Jeb,” said Mark Langdale, former president of the George W. Bush Foundation who saw him in Dallas. “He had a great record in Florida. He’s somebody who could bring a lot of different groups together. He’s a thoughtful guy.”
    In an interview that aired on “This Week” on ABC News on Sunday, George P. Bush said that he thought it was “more than likely” that his father would run. “If you had asked me a few years back, I would have said it was less likely,” he said.
    Friends and relatives took notice when Jeb Bush told a reporter during a campaign swing for his son that his wife would support a bid should he make one. Jeb Bush Jr. said that was important. “She’s not a big fan of politics and all the ugly things that go along with it, especially as it seems like it’s gotten worse with every passing cycle,” he said. “But she loves Dad and she loves the country, and I think she’ll be supportive.”
    Jeb Bush Jr. said his father would make a decision after next week’s midterm elections, informed by experience no other possible candidate has had.
    “If there’s one guy out there who knows how to run a presidential campaign, it’s definitely him,” he said. “He’s been around it, really, since 1980. He understands the full-court press.”

    A version of this article appears in print on October 27, 2014, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: The Bushes, Led by W., Rally to Make Jeb ‘45’. Order Reprints|Today's Paper|Subscribe

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us...b-45.html?_r=0
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